Portugal Banned

Once I told to Hugo that Lee was so angry at him that he would block aany attempts of connection from Portugal. I asked Kireek to stop trying to access the forum or the game in order to avoid innocent people from his country to pay because of he being stubborn. Today, someone from there added me asking why him and his friends were automatically banned from game and when they try to register on forum they get a message "No Kireek".

Even with this, Hugo said he wouldn't stop trying to get in there. Based on this, now I ask:
- Why do you hate Ives so much in his attempt to block people from playing PSO if you are doing exactly the same thing? And with people from your OWN country?



Chat with the portuguese guy which will only interest to Kireek. Feel free to translate at Google who wishes so:

This is yet another example of Shitstackers "nazi-style" control.

Get a fucking clue SCHTHACKTARDS!!

Don't block an ip range because of your misguided anger towards one individual.

Damn.

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Here is the convo translated to English using Babelfish.

(18:03) Bruno: Hmm. I am in a sufficiently peculiar situation. E asked for only one small portion of your time. Somebody could hear that me, and perhaps help, because I do not obtain in way none to decide this situation. Nobody that I know, here in Portugal, obtains to enter in the PSO. Nobody obtains to go to the forum. All have problem the same. Something call Kireek Ban when it is gone to the forum. E when we enter with ours accounts says that we are banished. = E I already asked to all my friends of the PSO. Nobody is obtained to bind.

(18: 05) Leona: Yes. it has a youngster, called Hugo, from there of Portugal, that already caused many problems to the server. The administrator if chateou and blocked the majority of the IP' s of its country.

(18: 06) Leona: I already informed to the Kireek it to stop, but it does not import itself.

(18: 06) Bruno: It is that, I am of those people who bought all the versions some time PSO exits. game since 1º day that left here in Portugal. E I feel much lack of a game. that it is part of me. A time in the life would like at least arriving the 200. You could speak in my name, and of that if they find in my situation? But I ask for to you that you try, please. It is unjust.

Its a free service. You have nothing to complain about.

The issue is not about the service being "free".

The main problem here is how the Schthack Staff treat their own community.

Do you actually believe that it is ethical to treat a community of individuals this way?

If the server were completely independent of all users that frequented it, then one could legitimately claim that the owners/operators have no obligation to the users since the existence of the server is not dependent on them. In this case, a donation button on the website would be a mere means for added support, a thanks, or whatever the user has in mind that merits monetary appreciation. Regardless, donations would not affect the life of the server and the owners could do as they please.

However, SCHT has obviously gone out of its way to solicit its members with incentives for donating by the conditions that the server requires money to continue, and (more questionably), all monies go to supporting the server. Presumably, unless Crono is willing to pay out of pocket, without user donations the server would disappear. In this situation (the reality), a measure of obligation on the part of the owners is necessary. There is of course no contract for this, but given the relationship, I think at least (and perhaps at most), some respect of the contributors is necessary.

Blocking an entire country because of one person is not respect. If I was located in Portugal and had donated, I would be very disappointed at the people I chose to support. Had I not, well, I just lost a function of my video game. Oh well.

Wow, because you hate one guy, you banned a country.

There aren't words to describe how pitifully petty that is.

And I was criticized for threatening to try and shut down Schtserv? Will you promise to ban the entirety of the U.S. if I become a nuisance?

Anyway, Kireek wasn't the one who issued the ban. I don't know what's more pathetic - that Schtserv always has to find a scapegoat or that people are dumb enough to buy into it.

LOL I could see that happening.

None of this changes the fact that you still are not required to donate in order to use the service.

This is similar to sites like megaupload.com that offer "free" and "premium" hosting services.

Sites like megaupload.com don't treat their members like ass.

GJ Lee

"kireek ban"

Tell them to use a ip proxy list or a website that filters the information, Lee knows and you know also that the person that banned the ip knew that what you ban is the ip, do NOT throw the fault to me.
If you want to ban me, then ban the account, you banned the ip then it's your problem not mine.
Seriously leona, stop complaining, lift the ban, with or without ip ban i can still check the forum (with or without proxy), so to remind you, lee banned the IP.

I mean, the mod is pissed at me and bans the ip, then i'm the culprit, LOL

With ban or without ban i can still see the forum, just in case you didn't know, you're not banning me because i can still register, you're banning the IP

Thanks leona, now someone named bruno thinks i'm the bad guy in this. >_>

They could if they wanted too . . . and people would still use the service.

That's just patethic. If you hate kireek then just ingore him and move on, no need to punish a entire country just for one person that bugs you.

IMO you've gone to far with this Lee.

Ever since Lee got admin the entire server and forum is going downhills pretty fast. I think Crono made a big mistake making lee this powerfull on the forum just cause he does alot of quests and other stuff.

Ill play the devil's advocate.

Since lee joined we have:

More New quest content
Updated/de-bugged old content
A more organized forum
A more stable server
A larger playerbase


How exactly are things going down hill?