Title: DJ3 Jeep
Description: Serial number - Date built
Whickerbill - November 29, 2010 05:28 PM (GMT)
I have a 2wd jeep that I think is a DJ3. The body is in fair condition and I'm considering rebuilding it for a Saturday. Sunday & Holiday driver. Can someone tell from the serial number when it was built? The Ser# on the metal Williys tag is 56337 21915. I would appreciate any information that I can get. Also I would be interested in the DJ jeep that the moderator talked about in Arkansas for a parts vehicle. I need a complete engine and 2wd transmission. I'm located in East central Oklahoma and a trip to AR. would be nothing.
F Bill - December 2, 2010 07:05 PM (GMT)
Sure would like to see some pictures... Welcome to the DJ world.
I may be wrong but you might be able to go with a 2wd tranny from a jeepster or station wagon if it was behind a 134. Do you have all the shifting stuff, column, shift rods, etc?
What does your jeep have for bumpers, windshield, and door openings? ANy signs of the original color paint anywhere?
Whickerbill - December 2, 2010 08:58 PM (GMT)
Thanks for the welcome and also for your reply. I'm very interested in DJ Willys jeeps. The one that I have does have all of the shifting stuff. My plan is to keep the rebuilt of this jeep as original as I can. The color is blue and I would like to send you pictures if I could figgure out how on this board. How would I know if the engine is a 134? I have the engine block but the pistons and cranckshat are missing. Do you have any idea how to find out what year this jeep was built? Drop me an emai at firstname.lastname@example.org and I will send you several pictures. I believe the paint is original because it has the little Dispatcher decals behind the front fenders on both sides.
oldtime - December 3, 2010 12:46 AM (GMT)
Welcome to the CJ-3B Bulletin Board.
Technically there is no moderator for this particular forum.
The DJ forum has been mainly idle since Bruce Agans resignation as DJ moderator.
As you can tell by my delayed response I don't watch this DJ forum closely.
But located here is some forum pic posting helphttp://z4.invisionfree.com/CJ3B_Bulletin_B...?showtopic=2414
According to the 1963 production figures yours appears to be a 1962 vintage.
F Bill - December 3, 2010 03:55 PM (GMT)
Here is one picture from the group of pics whickerbill has... Click on it it should take you to my webshots album of 7 pics he sent me. Pardon the ads, I have the free webshots and they are really getting overboard with ads.Just make sure to click on the "X" to close an ad not the plus sign...they are getting tricky.
While it seems not to be a surrey it is still a very nice start. I am thinking convertible dispatcher....
F Bill - December 3, 2010 04:06 PM (GMT)
What I am seeng....besides a very solid start and a worthwhile candidate for a stock resto... It has an aftermarket bestop style top, including bows and all the lovely snaps... SOmeone moved the spare from the quarter panel to the center of the back panel at one point..Wonder which was original on this jeep....Looks like the seats were white originally. and I wonder if those baby moons were original issue or not...Were they marked in any way to be willys hubcaps?
Dash layout looks pretty stock but I see there is an oil pressure gage? added...or was it a stock item by that date? Not sue what all the switches are around teh speedo cluster.
Tom if you get the seats out I would really like to see what they look like from all sides. They are one of the hardest parts to find in stock form.
Was the windshield always black or has it been replaced or refinished?
I will need a straight on shot of that decal to repop it.. Interesting seems to be printed on clear vinyl. Can you tell any color info from it?
oldtime - December 5, 2010 08:59 PM (GMT)
|Also I would be interested in the DJ jeep that the moderator talked about in Arkansas for a parts vehicle. I need a complete engine and 2wd transmission. I'm located in East central Oklahoma and a trip to AR. would be nothing.|
I'll try to dig up Roys phone number.
He has a small operation. An old truck salvege yard within the Ozark National Forest.
56dj - December 5, 2010 09:08 PM (GMT)
It's not a decal.
Parts Book (issued Feb. 1962) Stencil, "Jeep Dispatcher"
Part # 694049.
Hubcaps are originals, were used on Aero Willys for 1953 model.
Models with fixed back (no tailgate) had the spare on the rear.
F Bill - December 7, 2010 09:05 PM (GMT)
Here's a post from the G that tells us a t-96 tranny was used on the Dj.. so maybe the T-90 from other vehicles is not going to work.
I'm still early in the learning curve on these....So forgive my ignorance.. :o
Never even noticed the embossing on your hubcaps, I am awaiting an answer from a junkyard that had a set, so maybe one part has been found for mine..
I dunno about the stencil/decal thing....sure looks like a clear carrier sheet under the lettering, What I would make would be a cut vinyl self adhesive decal, or a vinyl stencil mask for painting it on.
It sure seems the DJ is the red headed step child of the jeep crowd, most of them were turned into CJ's from what I have seen on Ewillys and Craigslist. And knowledge about them is scarce.
Sure looks like a set of bolt holes on the right side for a spare tire bracket. Mine have holes on the rear panel for a bracket, but I am not entirely sure whether they used the standard CJ bracket or there was a DJ specific part.
Do you have a DJ specific parts list? or is it a list for all the universal jeep models? Gonna have to look one up myself.
56dj - December 7, 2010 11:58 PM (GMT)
The parts listed, issued February, 1962, covers the models in production at that time.
Last 2 columns are DJ and Surrey.
Just a matter of digging through the information to get the information you need.
I would imagine any parts book issued up thru 1965 would also have the DJ
T-96 is the transmission used.
You could probably use a T-90, but it would have to come from a 2WD application,
which would have a tailshaft.
The T-96 would have been used in Jeepsters and Wagons without overdirve,
with the 134, 148, and 161 motors.
F Bill - December 8, 2010 12:35 AM (GMT)
Guess I need to find a later parts list than my 46 one then..lol. .
oldtime - December 9, 2010 04:01 PM (GMT)
|I would imagine any parts book issued up thru 1965 would also have the DJ information.|
There was only one Universal Parts List (UPL) produced before Feb/62.
That's the 6/1959 UPL which does not cover the Dispatcher model.
It only covered the 1959 era CJ Universals. Models CJ-3B, CJ-5, CJ-6
Prior to 6/1959 the UPL did not exist.
This means that many of the previous Parts Lists for Jeeps were model specific.
When the DJ model emerged in 1956 there was a parts list published for it.
The 1956 Dispatcher Parts List (1956 DPL)
glennstin - December 19, 2010 10:58 PM (GMT)
Hi Whickerbill, Thanks for posting your S/N 56337-21915 for us to add to the list we are establishing. Your DJ3A was built about half way thru the 1962 model run of 1825 units. The DJ3A Serial Numbers for 1962 were 56337-20910 to 56337-22735, so yours was the 1005th one built that year. Those pictures show you to have a better start than most, and your end product will be a keeper. Look that bare block over carefully and shoot us some numbers. First without the head on it you can tell if it is a L-134 by the valves all in the block. Take a toothbrush and some WD-40 and gently work on the flat area by where the water pump bolts on. Several tries should yield a 3JXXXXXX number and an original '62 L-134 would probably be something like 3J17xxxx as I have a Jan. 1963 built unit with Eng. # 3J173851. Down on the side should be a casting number raised up, not stamped in like the engine number. This number might be 804380. If you have an original block, it may be worth building, or at least a crack check. I'll add your numbers to our survivor list. Every one of these DJ3A models is special and a piece of Willys History. Hang in there.
1956DJ3A - December 31, 2010 11:48 AM (GMT)
Neat-o. Yours looks just like mine. I have a '56 DJ that I am restoring and converting to look like an M38.
I have more pics of the tear-down and rebuild here on my FB if you'd like to see:http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/alb...7&id=1668090812
Here it is before I tore it all apart. It was converted to 4WD back in the 70's, but it is a DJ due to the gas tank being located in the rear under the tub. I will be moving the fuel tank to under the driver's seat.
And here it is currently as of December 2010. I am rebuilding/replacing ever last nut, bolt, and seal. Working on the steering components currently.
And here's an example of what she'll look like when complete.
swedesurrey - January 1, 2011 02:19 PM (GMT)
Great!!! It would be fun to have a Dispatcher convertible!!!
Too bad i donīt have a body tube like yours.... ;)
Good Luck with your Jeeps!!!
F Bill - January 1, 2011 02:40 PM (GMT)
Sure does look great... (Emil, that's TUB...a Tube is a piece of pipe or an inner tube for a truck, lol.. :D )
Hey 56 DJ, let me know if you want to sell the tank/filler/etc.
swedesurrey - January 1, 2011 02:51 PM (GMT)
Ha ha ha...
Thanks... i will try to remember that... :P
colin - January 14, 2011 08:51 PM (GMT)
I haven't been on the DJ3A Forum for a while, but it appears that yo are getting a lot answers to your questions. My buddy Glenn gave you good scoop on the year of your DJ3A and I have it listed in my new and growing DJ3A/Surrey database.