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 Cj3b Willys Overland (mitsubishi)
Ximorro
Posted: Apr 26 2010, 06:53 PM


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Hello,
I recently bought a 1960 Jeep Willys Overland (diesel), made in Japan.
I am working on it in order to make it as close as original as possible, but I'm getting so much problems to do so, because I can't find in any place, detailed information/pictures that can show me what kind of parts and details I should have to consider. What I am asking here is that if someone in this forum has a Jeep like this, on that has access to information like this, can please send me pictures of it, showing me details, like optics, seats, tail lights, mirrors, engine, body, etc, etc. I know it's a lot to ask, but I really want to keep the Jeep as close as it was built in 1960, and it is not an easy task

Thank you in advance.
Any kind of info, brochures, pictures, etc, will be mostly appreciated.

Best regards,
Diogo Morais

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oldtime
Posted: Apr 26 2010, 07:11 PM


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Diogo,
Welcome to the CJ-3B Bulletin Board

Have you read the information that is archived on The CJ3B Page ?
Enter "Mitsubishi" onto the: http://www.film.queensu.ca/CJ3B/CJ3BSearch.html


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1953 TRANS-VINTAGE CJ-3B / AC 4693 fuel pump / YF 938 SD / Hurricane / 9-1/4" Auburn clutch / T90-C / 2.46 ratio D-18 / Warn O.D. / 5.375 final drive / Powr Lok Front + Rear / Dualmatic drive flanges / deluxe Koenig half cab / 12 volt generator
2nd full re-build using the best from all vintages of CJ-3B

1962 OPTIONAL-STOCK CJ-3B / Warn O.D. / Tigertop / Transport yellow (orange)
Currently serving as my one and only DAILY DRIVER

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Ximorro
Posted: Apr 27 2010, 07:30 PM


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Hello Oldtime,

I've been searching on that pages that you've advise me to, but my problem is that I cannot find in those pictures some kind of smaller details, such as the dashboard, or the gauges as speedometer/oil pressure/temperature/fuel, etc, or even details as the tail lights, so that I can see what to look for in shops or sites to buy the correct material to restore it as it was built.

I'm asking this because I know my Jeep has some modifications of previous owners that didn't care that much and replaced some parts from other Jeeps and even other cars. I don't mean mechanical parts, but mostly electrical. So I don't know if you have access to that kind of information or even if someone has a Jeep like mine, but restored originaly.
Honestly I don't know anyone that has one, mostly because it's a perkins diesel one, that's why I'm kind of desperate looking everywere smile.gif
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oldtime
Posted: Apr 27 2010, 07:49 PM


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Diogo,
We must identify the make (manufacturer) .
Next comes the model designation before we can ever hope to know other details.

Is this a Mitsubishi J 20 ?
What is the exact wheelbase ?
Can you upload us some pics ?



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1953 TRANS-VINTAGE CJ-3B / AC 4693 fuel pump / YF 938 SD / Hurricane / 9-1/4" Auburn clutch / T90-C / 2.46 ratio D-18 / Warn O.D. / 5.375 final drive / Powr Lok Front + Rear / Dualmatic drive flanges / deluxe Koenig half cab / 12 volt generator
2nd full re-build using the best from all vintages of CJ-3B

1962 OPTIONAL-STOCK CJ-3B / Warn O.D. / Tigertop / Transport yellow (orange)
Currently serving as my one and only DAILY DRIVER

St Louis
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Ximorro
Posted: Apr 28 2010, 11:05 AM


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Hello again,

Sorry for my late reply, but I've just got off from work.
I'll try to upload some pictures. I'll add the plate that has the chassis number and the model.
How can I measure the wheelbase? (I'm not sure what that is, I have my english a little bit rusty smile.gif
I believe that my Jeep is the j3, but I'm not sure.

Thank you once again

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Ximorro
Posted: Apr 28 2010, 11:08 AM


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oldtime
Posted: Apr 28 2010, 07:04 PM


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Diogo,
Your jeep is in very nice condition.

Pic #1 ... As indicated this has only two of the original gauges.
Pic #2 ... Note; Your jeeps parking lamps are unlike the US lamps.
Do you observe another (original) hole mounting pattern ?
Very nice directional tires.
Pic #3 ... Seat frames look right but the seat pads (cushions) are wrong.
Pic #4 ... Rear seat looks correct
Pic #5 ... I am unfamiliar with Mitsubishi serial number plates.
I estimate JC3 indicates model Jeep Civilian 3............60 indicates year ?
Pic #6 ... Note: Your Jeeps tail lamps are unlike the US tail lamps.
Do you observe another (original) hole mounting pattern ?
Pic #7 ...
Pic #8 ... Your head lamps look correct from what I can observe.

Measure wheelbase from front axle centerline to rear axle centerline.
Your English is very good and you are welcomed to practice it on this B.B.


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1953 TRANS-VINTAGE CJ-3B / AC 4693 fuel pump / YF 938 SD / Hurricane / 9-1/4" Auburn clutch / T90-C / 2.46 ratio D-18 / Warn O.D. / 5.375 final drive / Powr Lok Front + Rear / Dualmatic drive flanges / deluxe Koenig half cab / 12 volt generator
2nd full re-build using the best from all vintages of CJ-3B

1962 OPTIONAL-STOCK CJ-3B / Warn O.D. / Tigertop / Transport yellow (orange)
Currently serving as my one and only DAILY DRIVER

St Louis
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Ximorro
Posted: Apr 29 2010, 08:21 AM


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Hello, and thank you very much, once again,

I will measure the wheelbase then smile.gif
Thanks for the comment on the Jeep. I still have lots of work to do smile.gif mostly on the floor. But I will update pictures smile.gif As for the seats, I'm already making a new structure for them, I've seen some pictures and I will copy them smile.gif

I've seen some other Jeep tail lights and parking lights, but I never know if they are correct or not. Can you show me which tail lights and parking lights will be correct for my Jeep, by sending me a link of a picture or something like that?

Thank you very much
Best regards
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oldtime
Posted: Apr 29 2010, 06:59 PM


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I can only attempt to discern originality of your lamps.
We see VERY few Mitsubishi's over here.
In the meantime perhaps someone else with Mitsubishi exposure will comment.

Was your tub re-drilled to mount the lamps in question ?
What does your original bolt hole pattern look like ?

Here in the USA ... the parking lamp stud mounting holes are verticle for 1960.
They measure 2.125" CL from top to bottom.
There is a large diameter hole in between the stud mounting holes to allow for the wire harness.

The tail lamp stud mounting holes are horizantle.
They measure 2" centerline from one to the other.

Can you confirm if your jeep uses that specific mounting pattern ?


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1953 TRANS-VINTAGE CJ-3B / AC 4693 fuel pump / YF 938 SD / Hurricane / 9-1/4" Auburn clutch / T90-C / 2.46 ratio D-18 / Warn O.D. / 5.375 final drive / Powr Lok Front + Rear / Dualmatic drive flanges / deluxe Koenig half cab / 12 volt generator
2nd full re-build using the best from all vintages of CJ-3B

1962 OPTIONAL-STOCK CJ-3B / Warn O.D. / Tigertop / Transport yellow (orange)
Currently serving as my one and only DAILY DRIVER

St Louis
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Ximorro
Posted: Apr 30 2010, 03:01 AM


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Hello,
I'm just getting off from work and as soon as I get home, I'll try to measure those patterns and I'll post them here smile.gif

Thank you very much,
Best regards
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Alien
Posted: Apr 30 2010, 08:45 AM


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Hi Ximorro,

Do you have this book, according to the website it covers all you need to know about restoring your Jeep to factory original, so it says.

http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/mits...talogue/4472453


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paul metisse
Posted: Apr 7 2012, 01:34 PM


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Hi Ximorro,I have a Mitsubishi J3C similar to yours,and can confirm yhat your front lights side and head are correct i.e same as on the one I have.Is yours fitted with the ke31 diesel engine?Thanks,Paul.
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Larry (TX)
Posted: Apr 7 2012, 09:45 PM


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My what I'd give to be able to get one of these stateside!


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Larry Steed
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'52 Willys M38
'81 CJ7
'86 Chevy M1009 CUCV (K5 4x4 Military Blazer)
M100 1/4 ton jeep trailer
M416 1/4 ton jeep trailer
M101 CDN 1/4 ton jeep trailer
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Roberto Flores
Posted: Apr 9 2012, 02:03 PM


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Welcome aboard, Diogo! As I previously told you, this is a fantastic website! Good luck!


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Bob
Posted: Apr 10 2012, 06:48 AM


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I'd love to find one of these in the states too...very interesting. Do you have a photo of the motor that we could see?


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