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 DJ3A Hard top
82cj7401
Posted: Mar 9 2012, 10:19 PM


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Hello,
I am new to the forum but not new to jeeps. I have a 56 DJ3A the correct DJ frame.

Would like to know if anyone is interested in the top and windshield. no doors or rear hatch. There is is a large crack in the roof. maybe 15" long. Any offers? I was thinking of putting the 2A tub back on the frame and selling the DJ tub as well.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.

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F Bill
Posted: Mar 10 2012, 09:05 AM


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Hi, welcome to the DJ group...Is that a late 2A frame or is it actually a DJ frame that someone put 2A axles in? Check your firewall tag for a 56337 xxxxx serial number, and then look at the right side frame rail behind teh battery and ahead of the tub, on the top. There shoudl be a stamped in number there if it is the DJ frame, and it should match the xxxxx in the S/n.

Can't help you on selling the top, most folks think they are pretty ugly and get rid of them, someday we will be kicking ourselves for not buying all the DJ tops hen nobody wanted them.. biggrin.gif

If you still have the flathead motor, look at the drivers side motor mount on the front plate.. DJ should have a forward facing ear that the single vertical bolt goes thru. 2A would point back towards the fuel pump.

THE 4WD axles, and gearboxes are a bolt in on a DJ, so swapping frames would actually be unusual. It looks like a pretty decent jeep!


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59 convertible 15933 needs drivetrain
60 convertible 17052 has a V6 and 4WD
60 Surrey 17509 went thru Katrina and looks it.
60 Surrey 17918 started it all...Toyota axle, BW
Wrecked Surrey Tub with fenders and grille
56 tub, from 11826
And a couple parts DJ's with no ID left.
All my jeeps are projects....only runner is my
DJ with doors..
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82cj7401
Posted: Mar 10 2012, 09:22 PM


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Thanks for the info. I will check tomorrow for the #'s yep still have the flathead. Running almost 100 psi per cyl.

I need to look over the transmission. Was considering either putting the flat head back in or I have a complete engine and drivetrain from an extra Commando and run the Buick 225.

The jeep's in real good shape - still has the original floors! Guess tht top saved it over the years.. There is a little rot on sides where the door track was mounted. Wish I had a good sandblaster to take off the multiple coats of paint, do a little patching and she's ready for paint.
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82cj7401
Posted: Mar 12 2012, 09:27 AM


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You are correct, the frame numbers match, so it is on a DJ frame. I was unable to see the engine mount to see if it was original. I do know that the rubber engine mounts were the same on both sides, not sure if that helps. I'll have to take my tractor and move the engine so I can get a better look.

If the engine is original, might I be better off selling the whole jeep and picking up CJ2A? Is there a market for this condition DJ? If so, what kind of price range would you think? I'm not really set on the DJ thing, I just want a flattie. I already have a 57n Willys pickup, 2 69 Commandos, and a partial Cj2A. Out of all, only one Commando is on the road.

Bottom line, the closer I can get to having another one on the road the better.

Thanks

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82cj7401
Posted: Mar 18 2012, 07:12 PM


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Decided to keep the DJ, add 11" brakes and a 60/40 split bench from a early CJ5.

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F Bill
Posted: Mar 18 2012, 09:41 PM


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Cool! They are a lot of fun, and capable little beasts too. The Cj5 seat is actually very, very close to the seats that were provided with some DJs. If you search the forum for seat postings you should find a lot of info on what the originals looked like. If your DJ has no toolbox, that will make adapting the right side seat necessary. THe original brackets were not anything special , just some flattened and bent tubing.


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59 convertible 15933 needs drivetrain
60 convertible 17052 has a V6 and 4WD
60 Surrey 17509 went thru Katrina and looks it.
60 Surrey 17918 started it all...Toyota axle, BW
Wrecked Surrey Tub with fenders and grille
56 tub, from 11826
And a couple parts DJ's with no ID left.
All my jeeps are projects....only runner is my
DJ with doors..
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82cj7401
Posted: Mar 19 2012, 08:37 PM


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Nope, no tool box. just flat. Thanks, kind of what I figured. I could make it work.
I have a set of 2A seats but thought the bench would be cool. and it was an option.

Just curious, did the DJ's ever have a toolbox? thought it was always flat due to it being for holding mail. I cuuld always add a toolbox if it was an option.
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F Bill
Posted: Mar 20 2012, 02:02 PM


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The DJ wasn't really aimed at JUST the mail delivery sales.. The dispatcher was a model aimed at all deliveries, pharmacies, hardware stores, Pizza places, etc, from what I understand. In fact I heard something somewhere about the DJ coming from a canceled Post Office order at one point, perhaps our better historians can tell us more about that.

AFAIK none with toolboxes were produced. Remember they were sold as the least expensive delivery vehicle out there, and toolboxes and gloveboxes cost money to make and install.

Personally I am glad they left the toolbox out...it saves a lot of floor replacement due to toolbox rot. It does make the passenger seat mounting a little shaky as now you have to have legs to take the place of that nice solid toolbox mount.


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59 convertible 15933 needs drivetrain
60 convertible 17052 has a V6 and 4WD
60 Surrey 17509 went thru Katrina and looks it.
60 Surrey 17918 started it all...Toyota axle, BW
Wrecked Surrey Tub with fenders and grille
56 tub, from 11826
And a couple parts DJ's with no ID left.
All my jeeps are projects....only runner is my
DJ with doors..
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82cj7401
Posted: Mar 22 2012, 07:13 PM


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Yeah, I plan on putting in the CJ5 bench seat but I do not have it yet so don't really know what I'm in for. Figure- "how hard could it be"

Thanks
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82cj7401
Posted: Jul 22 2012, 08:14 AM


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Started thinking of selling it.
Engine has 100 +- PSI. No seats but numbers match.
little rust, no holes in floor.
Any idea what it's worth?
Thanks.
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colin
Posted: Jul 22 2012, 02:10 PM


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Hi-

Colin here- I am trying to keep track on DJ3A serial numbers and if you want to send your complete serial number on your DJ to me at: colins60vette@cox.net , I will include it in my database.

FBill is correct, DJ3As didn't come with tool boxes. I have also heard that they were the result of a cancelled Post Office contract, but have not seen any verification of that. What is unusual about your DJ is the fact that it has the hardtop on it, but the door openings are not cut all the way to the floor. I have seen photos of a few that have that same feature, but never seen one in person. Most of the delivery models had the door openings cut at a about a 45 degree angle at the rear of the opening clear down to the floor for easier access in and out.

What does your speedometer look like? If it is an early model with a 5 digit production number somewhere between 10001 and about 13305, it may have one of the early speedo units that went to "8".

Colin in Phoenix
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82cj7401
Posted: Jul 22 2012, 10:49 PM


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Colin,
Sent you an email.
Yep it is a "8" speedo and the vin is:
5633711924
I am torn as to what to do with it. I would hate to modify it if someone would like it as a stock DJ. I am looking to build a trail / street flatty and it does not have to be a DJ, I found this locally and bought it not knowing what it was other than a Flat Fender.

If someone had a running 2A or 3A that would be interested in trading I would consider that as an option.

I checked the frame number and it is not a 2 A frame. it is the correct frame and numbers match.

user posted image[/IMG]Thanks,
Carl
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colin
Posted: Jul 22 2012, 11:47 PM


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Hi Carl-

Your DJ3A is an early 1956 model. The DJ3A model number was 56337. The serial numbers for 1956, the initial year for DJ3As, start at 10001 and end at 12510, for a total of 2510 units, with yours being about 2/3rds through production for the model year. That might explain the high door openings as the 1957 models had the doors cut all the way to the floor. I will add your Jeep to my database. Thanks.

As for what you should do with it, I can’t help you there, but if you decide to sell it and build a CJ2A or CJ3A, there will be someone to want to buy it I would think. In your forum post you mentioned it had the DJ frame under it. The DJ3A frame is basically the same as the CJ2A and 3A Jeeps, so it wouldn’t take a lot of work to put the 4WD stuff under it. The DJ3As all had 4 bolt hubs and 15 inch wheels since they were all 2WD.

Since the Jeep is already modified from its original 2WD state, and you want something you can do some 4 wheeling in, you do have options with what you have. Despite drawing the ire of some of our guys who would want it to go back to original(I probably would) it has enough of the top missing to make that difficult to do. You can simply unbolt the portion of the body that has the windshield and you have the basic flat fender body with the regular Jeep door openings. You could then put a folding 2A or 3A windshield on it. You then would have what appears to be a 2 or 3A Jeep. If you wanted to modify it further, a later Buick V6 and an overdrive would give you what you want.

Good Luck!
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82cj7401
Posted: Jul 23 2012, 08:32 AM


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Thanks for looking up the #, good info.
As for the DJ, it already has the 4wd added to front. I have an extra 69 Commando drivetrain with the 225 that could be swapped in.

Just curious, What would you say it's worth? To me it's worth what I paid for it but to a DJ person it might be more- I guess it could even be less but I doubt it.

Thanks Again,
Carl
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F Bill
Posted: Jul 23 2012, 11:26 AM


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Estimating value over the internet is a tough thing.. Your jeep has been modified from the stock configuration by removing a couple of the harder to find DJ parts......Good rear and front axles are pretty tough to find, not impossible yet, because so many of them were scrapped when the DJ got a 4x4 conversion. Brake parts also are hard to find the correct ones..

The Surrey version of the DJ, and to a lesser extent, the convertible version, are the valuable DJ models. The deliveries, while unique, do not seem to have the following or value that even a stock 2A would have.

I purchased a similar body condition DJ to yours, with 2WD axles, and no top, with some seats, (seats can cost $300 plus) for $300 last year. The engine was partially dismantled, radiator was missing, but the tub itself was in decent enough shape.

I also purchased a Convertible model with no engine but a mint tub for around the same price. It came with a full set of seats which was teh reason I bought it.

I also picked up a convertible with the chrome bumpers for around a thousand... It had the hard to find Surrey style bumpers I needed for my SUrrey, and a good title. It also had a seized up v6 4wd conversion.

And lastly, I paid way too much for a Surrey that had gone thru Katrina, just to get a full set of Surrey wheel covers. The rest of the jeep was pretty much useless except for patterns and major castings, due to the salt water bath it had.


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59 convertible 15933 needs drivetrain
60 convertible 17052 has a V6 and 4WD
60 Surrey 17509 went thru Katrina and looks it.
60 Surrey 17918 started it all...Toyota axle, BW
Wrecked Surrey Tub with fenders and grille
56 tub, from 11826
And a couple parts DJ's with no ID left.
All my jeeps are projects....only runner is my
DJ with doors..
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