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| rcolijn |
Posted: Jul 1 2012, 07:28 AM
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The Willys Workshop Group: Members Posts: 83 Member No.: 1,078 Joined: 29-March 11 |
Hi guys,
Nearly have the engine in so have started thinking about the wiring. I was thinking about making one myself so came up with the following diagram. Tell me what you think... Its not the usual one, I found this easier to read. ![]() Thanks guys -------------------- 1953 CJ3B, stock except for brake booster and Stromberg carburettor, on is way to be restored to former gory as original as possible. Check out The Willys Workshop or my Youtube Channel (please subscribe and leave comments if you'd like to see more!
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| Bob_webber |
Posted: Jul 1 2012, 09:41 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 242 Member No.: 1,116 Joined: 24-April 11 |
one thing that i don't like about the diagram, is that all the power is fed through the ignition switch, and then sent to the fuse box. when i wired my jeep i ran a wire with a inline fuse(near the solenoid) to the fuse box, then i ran power to the ignition switch and everything that needed to be powered up with the key. but the biggest thing i don't agree with on this diagram is that the headlights get their power through the key switch.
-------------------- 53 3b, early cj5 frame (hurricane),2.43 ratio t case 26 tooth with 1 1/4" case (my own creation), late 60's c5 ross steering box, all range od, parts from a welder generator, and parts from about 9 different jeeps and counting. my every last penny and ounce of patients creates what we call the FrAnken B, the jeep that never was
bob, north east Ohio |
| rcolijn |
Posted: Jul 1 2012, 10:33 PM
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The Willys Workshop Group: Members Posts: 83 Member No.: 1,078 Joined: 29-March 11 |
Good feedback mate, what I'll do is include a relay between battery and fusebox, then switch on/off using ignition switch. Thats wat I like about this forum, always usefull tips! -------------------- 1953 CJ3B, stock except for brake booster and Stromberg carburettor, on is way to be restored to former gory as original as possible. Check out The Willys Workshop or my Youtube Channel (please subscribe and leave comments if you'd like to see more!
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| Phil... |
Posted: Jul 2 2012, 05:38 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 103 Member No.: 949 Joined: 14-October 10 |
The wiring in my 340 is OK but has been messed about with to such a degree that I considered ripping it out and starting again. A mate suggested doing it all one color (yellow - military style). I like the idea of that so perhaps the simplicity of this style of diagram would work well with that suggestion.
Plenty for me to think about- thanks for posting it. -------------------- |
| rcolijn |
Posted: Jul 2 2012, 07:17 AM
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The Willys Workshop Group: Members Posts: 83 Member No.: 1,078 Joined: 29-March 11 |
Updated version:
-------------------- 1953 CJ3B, stock except for brake booster and Stromberg carburettor, on is way to be restored to former gory as original as possible. Check out The Willys Workshop or my Youtube Channel (please subscribe and leave comments if you'd like to see more!
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| oldtime |
Posted: Jul 2 2012, 11:16 AM
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MODERATOR Group: Co-Admin Posts: 3,552 Member No.: 3 Joined: 12-July 08 |
For post 1956 CJ-3B see: site:z4.invisionfree.com/CJ3B_Bulletin_Board
-------------------- 1953 TRANS-VINTAGE CJ-3B / AC 4693 fuel pump / YF 938 SD / Hurricane / 9-1/4" Auburn clutch / T90-C / 2.46 ratio D-18 / Warn O.D. / 5.375 final drive / Powr Lok Front + Rear / Dualmatic drive flanges / deluxe Koenig half cab / 12 volt generator
2nd full re-build using the best from all vintages of CJ-3B 1962 OPTIONAL-STOCK CJ-3B / Warn O.D. / Tigertop / Transport yellow (orange) Currently serving as my one and only DAILY DRIVER St Louis |
| rcolijn |
Posted: Jul 3 2012, 06:17 AM
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The Willys Workshop Group: Members Posts: 83 Member No.: 1,078 Joined: 29-March 11 |
Ok Fellas, here is version 3 of it all, anybody ideas how heavy the fuse for the engine should be? I am thinking 20A Maybe? I have sort of added wire sizes (in MM) to it so it would be easy to buy when needed. I was thinking that wire size should be bigger than fuse?
Also, whats should the Relay on the Starter motor be like? Amd should I fuse the Laternator > Amp Meter, and if so how much? ![]() Thanks again -------------------- 1953 CJ3B, stock except for brake booster and Stromberg carburettor, on is way to be restored to former gory as original as possible. Check out The Willys Workshop or my Youtube Channel (please subscribe and leave comments if you'd like to see more!
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| VIC543B |
Posted: Jul 4 2012, 08:07 PM
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If you wire it up with an original style harness, you can forgo all the fuses and relays. I put one in and everything works fine. There is a 30A circuit breaker on the headlight switch and a 14 on the signals.
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| Bruce W |
Posted: Jul 4 2012, 11:18 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 142 Member No.: 100 Joined: 8-November 08 |
I think you're over complicatin' this. You're fusing a lot of things that don't need to be, and I like the headlights, taillights, parklights, stoplights and horn to work with the ignition switch off. The only relay you need is the starter solenoid and maybe a horn relay, maybe one for your spotlights. Just my .02. BW
-------------------- Bruce Walker
Northeast Colorado '53 CJ3B "Nellybelle", '48 CJ2A "Uncle Lyndon", '47 CJ2A "Teddy", '47 CJ2A "Rusty", '47 CJ2A "Zak", '43 GPW "Sarge", '88 XJ "Pluto" |
| oldtime |
Posted: Jul 5 2012, 10:42 AM
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MODERATOR Group: Co-Admin Posts: 3,552 Member No.: 3 Joined: 12-July 08 |
Personally I agree with these guys.
That's why I posted a link with information for building an orignial harness. If all new wires are installed correctly there is little need for additional fuses. The standard wiring systems has a 30 amp circuit breaker that is part of the lighting switch. An inline "bullet" fuse goes to the heater and one goes to the directional signals. That's it. -------------------- 1953 TRANS-VINTAGE CJ-3B / AC 4693 fuel pump / YF 938 SD / Hurricane / 9-1/4" Auburn clutch / T90-C / 2.46 ratio D-18 / Warn O.D. / 5.375 final drive / Powr Lok Front + Rear / Dualmatic drive flanges / deluxe Koenig half cab / 12 volt generator
2nd full re-build using the best from all vintages of CJ-3B 1962 OPTIONAL-STOCK CJ-3B / Warn O.D. / Tigertop / Transport yellow (orange) Currently serving as my one and only DAILY DRIVER St Louis |
| rcolijn |
Posted: Jul 11 2012, 05:56 AM
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The Willys Workshop Group: Members Posts: 83 Member No.: 1,078 Joined: 29-March 11 |
Thanks for the feedback guys, appreciate it. I know I am "overdoing it" but this will be a daily driver and a travel companion so I'd rather over- than under do it.
Appreciate the feedback tho. -------------------- 1953 CJ3B, stock except for brake booster and Stromberg carburettor, on is way to be restored to former gory as original as possible. Check out The Willys Workshop or my Youtube Channel (please subscribe and leave comments if you'd like to see more!
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| jyotin |
Posted: Jul 14 2012, 06:50 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 593 Member No.: 29 Joined: 18-October 08 |
If you are going to use this for a plan, then you should move the "kill" switch from its current location and insert it between the negative pole of the battery and "earth".
Making a wiring harness from scratch is not quite as easy as one might think. I've done it and given the choice, I'd always take the original harness, wash it and repair what needs fixing... I've learned that wiring harnesses have two main characteristics -- connections and shape. Shape is more important than you may think. I'd suggest that you put a wire color and gauge on every wire in your diagram before you start. -------------------- It's just my luck that something good is going to happen to me today.
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| Bruce W |
Posted: Jul 18 2012, 09:32 AM
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All the more reason to keep it simple, in my opinion. BW -------------------- Bruce Walker
Northeast Colorado '53 CJ3B "Nellybelle", '48 CJ2A "Uncle Lyndon", '47 CJ2A "Teddy", '47 CJ2A "Rusty", '47 CJ2A "Zak", '43 GPW "Sarge", '88 XJ "Pluto" |
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