Clive Cussler Forum -> Quoting a Post in POLL : How does SAHARA rate?

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tonym5	Posted on May 22 2006, 07:37 AM
	I have seen Pebble Beach several times on TV and since you will be in the area I will live vicariously through you. And by the way, you are not a nerd for caring like that!
Dear_Heart05	Posted on May 21 2006, 11:27 PM
	Tony, you're absolutely right! Pebble Beach is one of the most beautiful places in California. I've only been there once, but im going to visit my sis in San Fransisco on the 25, and we're headin up that direction, so Im gonna try and talk her into sightseeing along the Monterey cost. So maybe I'll get some pics to post. Hehe...Im gonna try and find the beach that was used for the last scene in Sahara the movie. Yeah im a nerd, but im a proud nerd! I agree, Erik. Seeing those little details in the movie make me smile. Blasphemy? Maybe, but at least you're not alone.
oswalder	Posted on May 21 2006, 03:21 AM
	Haha, I'm not sure why I didn't realize this before, but the first real line of the book's description on the back cover calls Dirk a treasure hunter too! "1995, Egypt. Searching for a treasure on the Nile, Dirk Pitt thwarts the attempted assasination of a beautiful U.N scientist..." However, I'd hardly consider their search for the lost pharoah funeral barge to be a treasure hunt. They're concerned with the shipwreck, not the gold: Al: "Menkura was a far bigger nabob than King Tut. He must have carried a larger hoard with him for the afterlife." Dirk: "Well we won't see any of it, we'll be dead and buried ourselves before the Egyptians find the funding to raise and preserve the wreck for the Cairo Museum." Coincidentally, continuing this scene with Pitt diving on the barge was a great beginning for Gamay's fan fiction story. I just watched the movie again this afternoon and while they certainly changed way more than I'm happy about, I can't help but notice lots of little details from the book. I only wish they'll make more in the future, even if they keep the changes. (Blasphemy, I know )
tonym5	Posted on May 20 2006, 06:00 AM
	The best Golf Course is near Monterey!!! Beautiful!!! Pebble Beach is Tops in Golf Courses. And naturally this old pirate has heard of the supposed loot on Clipperton Island. Still hoping to get there myself before someone finds it!!
oswalder	Posted on May 20 2006, 04:29 AM
	As much as I didn't like the shift in the focus of Dirk's character, I guess I have to be fair to the writers and say that Dirk is very much portrayed as a treasure hunter on page 567 of my paperback copy: Eva: "You're taking me to Mexico?" Dirk: "To board a boat I've chartered." Eva: "For a cruise?" Dirk: "Sort of," he explained with a grin. "We're going to sail to a place called Clipperton Island and look for treasure." Also explains the inspiration for the sizzling dialogue in that scene between Dirk and Eva in the movie: Dirk: "There's a place I know, called Monterey." Eva: "Never heard of it." Dirk: "No? The place is paradise." Eva: "Sounds good."
DirkPittJr	Posted on Mar 26 2006, 09:59 PM
	I agree, however another movie about a hero saving the world. Moving always have that happen. I do agree with you, however they were trying to make him have more of a purpose then saving the world, they wanted the character to stubble into saving the world. I loved the book, I liked the movie and hopefully the next one will take more from cussler script approval and us book fans will also be a united front for the movies to.
gamaytrout103	Posted on Mar 26 2006, 03:27 PM
	The movie was based on as sub-plot that if I'm in a generous mood took up maybe 15 pages throughout a 500 page book. Pitt's character loves challenges and chasing the unknown, but he has to have some proof that it exists. In the book the book the Texas is first brought up by Cussler (the prospector) and Pitt doesn't believe it and he does have slightly more important things on his mind like saving the world. Later there is the picture of the Texas in the cave, and Kitty Mannock's journal that leads them to the Texas. That is all for the Texas. You do not base a book on a sub-plot and then say this is the book. I really feel we deserved better. Its a long book and I don't expect word for word translation. I knew things must get cut and maybe added to make things work, but there were more added seens then actual book scenes. I can only remember like three scenes from the book (I may haved missed a few because a few were so badly butchered that I failed to recognize them). I look at movies that came from the Harry Potter books and the recent Lord of the Rings, which were just as long (in some cases much longer. I think the fourth Harry Potter book had like 715 pages). Things were cut, but the plot still remained unchanged. They couldn't manage to hold to the plot because... why exactly? I didn't mind Zahn and McConaughey. I would have liked Zahn made up to look more like Giordino (its amazing what you can do with make-up today), but I got over that very quickly. After all there are so many better things to be enraged about. Overall though those characters weren't bad. Cruz can't act. Time to go find a new profession. Massarde was such a good bad guy in the book. The kind you love to hate. He was not the spineless weasel he was in the movie. He's the kind who plays to hands against each other (as Pitt suspects in the book giving funding to both the rebels and Kazim). Since when does Kazim run the show? He's blood-thisty and insane, but not particularly bright. Poor Rudi. Murdering a character that badly should be punishable by law! He was a spindless little wimp. He was not Commander Rudi Gunn. He was happy that he managed to pull the trigger on a flare gun. Sandecker was okay although we didn't see much of him. Yaeger was cut out (I could have pulled past this if this had been one of just a few problems. He was a part of the story but not vital I'll admit). As to attracting new fans, they coluld have done it right and accomplished the same thing, and I have friends who saw it and were turned off from Cussler because many of the parts were laughable at best. I don't blame them. Either the majority of bad guys in the movie couldn't operate a gun or the main characters could repel them using some mental force. I've never see so many bullets get shot at someone and nobody gets touched by even one. Not even grazed! People do not shoot a few rounds at a solid wall, drive through it and survive. You're telling me at the boarding of the train part (one of those scenes that was techniquely in the book, but was so badly butchered that I haven't decided I can count it as coming from the book) that the guard don't have the brains to go explore when they see not one, not two, but three fully tacked camels! One I could let them get away with, but not three. Even the densest of people would at least mention this strange thing to another guard, who might think "Wow, how strange. I'm going to go check the cars just in case." Unless someone really wants me to go one with the list of aburdities in the movie, I'll stop there. I managed to convince one of my friends (with no little persuasion after she saw this movie) to read Sahara and she was shocked that she liked the book. I understand with action adventure in particular you have to suspend some disbelief, but there are limits.
Helene Noelle	Posted on Mar 26 2006, 02:02 AM
	Hey, the basic elements were there. Once I realized where the movie was headed, I decided just to enjoy. The biggest plus about the movie is the reaction of a portion of the viewers: the movie has generated many "new" Clive Cussler fans. And I base this statement on the number of emails I have received from people who visited my web site after watching Sahara.
Suraiya	Posted on Mar 21 2006, 05:05 PM
	I would say 8.5 out of 10. It didn't really follow the book that well, but hey it was totally cool action adventure movie!! Matthew and Steve both played their roles really well, although I wish they had made Al Giordino a bit more Italian. But over all, I loved the movie, and the book(s)!! I really hope they make more; I'm hoping Valhalla Rising, but who knows
oswalder	Posted on Mar 14 2006, 11:43 PM
	Treasure hunting is more interesting than saving the world from algae. Totally kidding. Although I liked the movie, I couldn't agree with you more. It's comparing apples to oranges, but look at the job they did with converting the stage musical RENT into a movie. They went out of their way to keep it true to the original. Welcome to the forum, landwn!

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