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Clive Cussler Forum->Clive Cussler Forum Main Topics->Movies ... Sahara ; Raise the Titanic->How about a Med Caper movie?| Guest :Nick Kitt | Posted on Dec 29 2011, 11:17 PM | ||
| Yes, I am familiar with Dayna. She was cast as Kitty Mannoch in the film SAHARA with the scene actually filmed. Unfortunately, it do not test well with sample audiences and was regrettably cut. You can, however, see it in the "Special Features" of the DVD. I wish Paramount released the film with the scene intact in the film. It would have made for a more complete product. But the question remains; Can she, or her brother, actually edit the ghost material ? One wonders if they can really pull it off to bring back the stories to a much better level,especially as the audience become more demanding as the stories slip more and more into mediocrity. But, as time goes on, I believe the siblings Cussler will come to realize that the "empire" is going to need a real good shot in the arm. And we all know what that is and it ain't "editing the material"..... |
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| tonym5 | Posted on Dec 29 2011, 04:34 PM | ||
Dr. C has a daughter too. Her name is Dayna. Dirk Jr. and Dayna can do the writing or edit any ghost written material.   |
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| Guest :Nick Kitt | Posted on Dec 28 2011, 04:58 PM | ||
| Well, there's only Dirk, his son, who, IMO, hasn't got the chops to seriously continue the line. But, frankly, I don't think anyone is really serious about it in terms of offering real good adventure stories. It's just a aimless venture to keep the Cussler name alive and on book shelves. There's no intelligent thought about it, just get a book out. It doesn't matter if it's good or bad and, frankly, there hasn't been a good one in a long while. Maybe the Cussler brand is passed it's prime. It will be interesting to see what kind of decisions will be made in this regard when Clive is no longer around to make them. Let's hope more thoughtful heads prevail. But, then again, I've been saying that for years. | |||
| tonym5 | Posted on Dec 22 2011, 09:56 PM | ||
It is a shame a ghost writer is involved but it should be a Cussler who is doing the writing.  |
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| Guest :Nick Kitt | Posted on Dec 22 2011, 09:29 PM | ||
And more power to you. The only fly in the ointment with that philosophy is that you're not really reading Cussler, but another author. Now, that in and of itself, is OK,but it's not a genuine article. Instead, it's a poor testimonial of all the books that came before that were written by Cussler, lending itself to a shallow retread of previous material. But as Cussler himself has stated on occasion, he writes for the market value,not the art. That explains a lot and, to me, is very disingenuous to the reader,long time or not. I disagree about the BELL series,finding it nowhere near a "pulp" feel, but rather an attempt to ride someone else's coattails with a sense of desperation. As to the NUMA and OREGON FILES, well, you've them before,they just had different titles. Happy Reading.  |
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| tonym5 | Posted on Dec 5 2011, 04:21 AM | ||
| I will agree that when an author starts out with a character that becomes popular they tend to stick with that character just a bit too long by churning out too many stories. There are many other authors who have done this. However, I think that the Isaac Bell books are a refreshing throwback to the pulp era. The NUMA and OREGON stories started out great and unfortunately I have fallen behind in reading these and have yet to read the Fargo books. But I am still sticking with Cussler books as a loyal customer and take each book as they are without any preconceived notions that other members of the forum may think about them. End of speech. |
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| Guest :Nick Kitt | Posted on Dec 4 2011, 06:55 PM | ||
| And yet, that very lack of explanation of how the Ironclad got there is much better AS a mystery. The world is which these stories take place shouldn't always have a neat tied up ending. It only adds to the uncertain and sometimes dangerous world in which Dirk and Al live which, I'm sure, we would have seen more of if the franchise had been allowed to continue. What has always astounded me is how Cussler thinks that stopping the films and flooding the market with endless and watered down series and an oversaturation of really crappy books is a better strategy not only for his legacy but his readers as well, who, we all know, want more films. The film SAHARA is much better then the insipid FARGO series,the "been there, done that" feel of NUMA and OREGON FILES, and the lack of originality of the Bell series which just took a nod from Robert Downey's HOLMES series as well as from Doyle himself. Cussler had a great original concept with the Pitt series and, IMO, he should have just stayed there. There is no doubt if he threw his weight behind the film, co-operated as per contract, he would now have two much more valuable things. One, a successful film franchise with his name all over it and as a result, a increased interest in his older, and better written, novels as the movies came out. In case you haven't noticed, Cussler's books now come and go. They used to stay on the best seller lists for weeks on end. Now, they barely remain there for a week or less. They always debut high, but that's because of any book chain's initial bulk order and the sales fall quickly with many stores, such as the Barnes and Nobel by me, having piles of Cussler books on the discount rack. He might be selling kindle versions, but the lists themselves don't lie. But, if the films continued, many, if not all, of Cussler's older books would still be selling and finding that ever elusive "new" audience. What author wouldn't want that ? Clive Cussler, obviously. But, IMO, he hasn't ever been too concerned with that. | |||
| tonym5 | Posted on Nov 30 2011, 04:14 AM | ||
| Shorn down of the Lincoln subplot and seen as a simplified version of the book, yes it is a simple adventure, despite the lack of any explanation of the ironclad in an African desert the movie works. But I would like to see Night Probe and Raise the Titanic novels adapted without too many compromises. | |||
| Guest :Nick Kitt | Posted on Nov 29 2011, 11:05 PM | ||
| Good idea, Malloy, a great way to spend a rainy afternoon. SAHARA really was a great film,despite what Cussler or any other of the naysayers think. A really missed opportunity on so many levels that's it's almost as ridiculous as the author's way overblown reaction to a film he never even saw. | |||
| Malloy | Posted on Nov 20 2011, 12:27 PM | ||
Hmm... that would have been interesting and my choice (the movie introduced me to Mr. Cussler, Inca Gold made me read them all). I would even take the same cast (where needed). Pitty, really. Even though Sahara is a good stand alone, too. But you know what? I pour some Don Julio and put the Sahara DVD in... Rainy outside anyway. Regards!  |
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