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| Ta16uva |
Posted: Jun 25 2005, 03:49 AM
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Okay, this topic will bring much controversy, but here's a chance to voice your opinion. Do you want Clive Cussler to win the lawsuit and thus bring a stop to the movies? Or do you want him to lose and have more Dirk Pitt movies? Hmm
I would personally like to have some more Dirk Pitt movies. How about you? |
| Giordino13 |
Posted: Jun 25 2005, 03:51 AM
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I would also like to have more movies made, but I would like Clive's wishes to be respected. Even though I admire him greatly, I still think that more Dirk Pitt movies should be made. Sahara was a load of fun!
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| tonym5 |
Posted: Jun 25 2005, 04:20 AM
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Why not have both!!! Dr. C should be respected and he should have final approval of scripts. He can suggest actors.
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| Lat |
Posted: Jun 26 2005, 07:30 AM
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As I understand it, the court case is about Dr Cussler wanting his movie rights back. Once he has them back he can then sell them to someone else. It is thus possible to have both, he wins and us seeing more Dirk Pitt movies.
I just believe that someone who breached a contract, should not be allowed to get away with it. |
| oswalder |
Posted: Jun 26 2005, 05:32 PM
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I think there is a way for everyone to win. Clive certainly doesn't need 110 million U.S. dollars. It would definitely help him with his projects and whatnot, but that is just an absurd amount of money for these kinds of damages. Plus, if I were another movie company I would be very reluctant to want to work with him as it could turn out to be much more expensive and difficult, as we're seeing now.
They need to settle the lawsuit for a reasonable amount of money, with CC once again having script approval. He needs to understand what his readers (and viewers) want, and work to the best overall conclusion possible. Personally, I want to see more movies made. I also want good men to get what they deserve. Both can happen, but compromises must prevail over hard-headedness. $0.02 Erik |
| oswalder |
Posted: Sep 17 2006, 06:38 PM
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Any recent news about the lawsuit?
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| Dear_Heart05 |
Posted: Sep 18 2006, 03:57 AM
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Oh yes, more movies please!
...with Matthew, Steve and William H. I love ya Clive, but come on! I mean, the only reason I'm a fan today is because of the movie(Sahara)...and I KNOW I'm not the only one. |
| tonym5 |
Posted: Sep 20 2006, 04:28 AM
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I am a fan Because of his Intelligent fiction. Would like to see that adapted Intelligently into a movie. But if I have to, an action packed Adventure will do.
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| dirkP |
Posted: Sep 21 2006, 12:47 AM
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I also would like to see more movies but as most people are saying to have CC wishes respected. I have an idea. Clive should work with a screenwriter he knows to write the script himself. I am an aspiring screenwriter and trying to sale one of mine. Maybe I should write it, send it to clive, and have him correct it or make changes. I can dream!!
Ben |
| dirkgiordino |
Posted: Sep 21 2006, 07:46 PM
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Screw Disney and the Eisner's. They always seem to muddle things up. I think Cussler should win the suit, and then perhaps get a partnership going with Robert Rodriguez. You saw what he did with Sin City. Word for word and scence for scene verbatim. He even had Frank Miller as a co-director. I hope that there could be the same kind of relationship there between Cussler and Rodriguez. Either do that or make it into an HBO series. I could definitely see eight episodes running an hour each for one season for each book, and maybe even some new adventures developed for TV. That is the only way I can think of fitting everything into the story without cutting out a bunch of the good stuff like Sahara did.(WHERE WAS GIORDINO SHOOTING MELIKA!!!!???)
Alas, I live in a fantasy world, but if some women in New York can win the lottery twice, then maybe there's a shot for this. This post has been edited by dirkgiordino on Sep 21 2006, 07:49 PM |
| gamaytrout103 |
Posted: Sep 22 2006, 06:54 PM
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I disagree. I want more movies, but the movie barely followed the book. They cut important parts, and made it all so stupid. I actually didn't mind the actors except that Rudi was wrong. A sniveling little weakling he is not! Massarde was wrong also, but he was only in that one book. Such a good bad guy. The kind of guy you love to hate, and they turned him into a sniveling worm. In the book, he was evil but he was always in control and even after being tied out in the sun at the end, he kept control of himself. Dirk and Al come out like superhuman being who can get shot at, but never hurt or hit. They aren't gods, they're men. Extraordinary men who put aside their wounds and persevere. I'm willing to set beside disbelief, but there is a limit. No body can shoot that badly! Where did the Turags (is that how the tribe name is spelt?) come into the book. They played a fair role in the movie, but only receive a passing reference in the book. Eva is not with them when they jump on the train, and where did the camels and the desert clothes come from. Where was Tebezza? The entire story was based on finding the Texas (a minor sub plot in the book). I've said it before and I'll say it again, you don't base a movie on a sub plot. You cut the sub plots and stick to main plot. The contamination was thrown in there ackwardly, and in general nothing was the same. The Calliope! A high tec boat used to track the contamination. Now Admiral Sandecker's private boat, which they have to beg to use to go on a treasure hunt. Dirk came off as an ditz who believes in things with no solid backing. He's right in this, but the Dirk in the book isn't like that. He loves adventure- yes. Loves a challenge- of course. Sometimes sees things that others don't, but never does he have nothing to go on. In the book, Dirk scoffs when he hears the story of the Texas making it to Africa and particularly when he hears Lincoln was on it (I wasn't shocked that the last part was cut out. A fun, but unneccesary sub plot that was cut to make the movie fit.) I could keep going on, but I won't. Clive should win. Tell the director to next time at least read the book before he/ she tries to make it into a movie.
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| gamaytrout103 |
Posted: Sep 23 2006, 02:55 PM
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Page by page translation. No, of course not. Never happen. Only a few scenes actually came from the book. Hollywood rewrote Sahara, and I did expect better than that. I took a few friends(one had read the book, two I was trying to talk into reading the books) and they all thought it was the biggest piece of crap. One of the friends who hadn't read Cussler before finally agreed to give the book a chance after I bugged her consistently to try it- and it was much harder now because she kept saying "You mean like that movie". She couldn't believe they were supposed to be the same thing). Now you're going to say that they're just a few people and that's true, but her reaction shouldn't have been so shocked at how different they are. The Lord of the Rings were fine translations. Read the books and you'll see things were cut, but the story is still the same. More than a few scenes should have come over in Sahara. They cut where they had no right to and basically rewrote it. They want to put out another stupid action adventure flick then fine, but don't say its Sahara because it was barely loosely based around. We don't have to accept everything Hollywood does. I think it has now been proven that some directors know how to read and can do a decent translation, that will be exciting on the movie screne without losing the book. Why should we settle? I want more movies, but they should at least try.
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