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Title: #741 Hint of the Storm
Description: Alternate Title: FUNGAAAAH


Cyrus - November 18, 2011 07:33 AM (GMT)
Fun to finally meet Celes's identical not-twin.

Well, I guess getting kidnapped by Ultros is bad, but it's certainly no getting kidnapped by the creep Setzer... <_< >_> :P

HeroicJay - November 18, 2011 11:43 AM (GMT)
See, if Ultros had a brain, he'd notice that helplessly screaming for someone to save her couldn't possibly be any more out of character for Celes.

So who's the "strange little girl"?

jaimehlers - November 18, 2011 12:45 PM (GMT)
My very off-the-cuff answer, the Sovereign or one of her avatars (that is, a Touched).

The "strange little girl" delayed Maria (there may also have been the intent to delay the wedding, by forcing the heroes to go rescue Maria, thrown off by the fact that they didn't wait), thus Ultros had the opportunity to kidnap her.

MFD - November 18, 2011 12:48 PM (GMT)
The strange girl reminds me of the Shard bearer.

Anyone else think Maria was the Sovereign in Celes form? Just me?

aturtledoesbite - November 18, 2011 01:28 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (HeroicJay @ Nov 18 2011, 06:43 AM)
if Ultros had a brain

DIVIDE BY ZERO ERROR

Anyway, I wonder if anything'll come of Chupon's new-found love for Ultros? (Also, this explains why Chupon was watching Ultros sleep during the wedding.)

Oh, did anyone here start thinking of Super Mario RPG when Chupon was talking, or was that just me?

enlong - November 18, 2011 03:10 PM (GMT)
See, I thought Touched, until she started shrieking like a veteran princess. I think she's clean.

By the way, I like the inversion of the opera-house plan, here. This time, Maria is Celes's decoy. I love it.

QUOTE (HeroicJay @ Nov 18 2011, 11:43 AM)
See, if Ultros had a brain, he'd notice that helplessly screaming for someone to save her couldn't possibly be any more out of character for Celes.

So who's the "strange little girl"?

Ya know, he meets Celes all of twice or three times in the entire game, provided you take her to the second and third time. First time, she's acting the part of Maria. Second time, airship battle. Third time, coliseum.

He never really gets to see much of Celes.

Cyrus - November 18, 2011 06:40 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (MFD @ Nov 18 2011, 04:48 AM)
The strange girl reminds me of the Shard bearer.

Anyone else think Maria was the Sovereign in Celes form? Just me?

My immediate thoughts in both cases as well.

mordain - November 18, 2011 07:18 PM (GMT)
I'm not sure the Sovereign could or would speak without purple text... Maria's text was white before she even appeared on-panel.

Knight - November 18, 2011 07:20 PM (GMT)
Not to mention that Celes isn't royalty.

Blackdeathdraco - November 18, 2011 07:36 PM (GMT)
This may sound a bit crazy, but I think Chupon is not in love with Ultros.

I think Chupon is in love with the cat you see in his close-up.

enlong - November 18, 2011 07:57 PM (GMT)
In any case, it's not anyone in Celes's form. Maria just happens to look a lot like Celes. It's perhaps FFVI's most suspiciously convenient plot point. It just so happens that Celes looks like the woman that the man with the only airship in the world wants to abduct.

Spriteless Girl - November 18, 2011 08:08 PM (GMT)
Maria has purple hair ties, but Celes has blue. This obviously means she has some as of yet unidentified version of being touched. Or she's only slightly touched. Or her only talents are getting knocked out by more important characters and singing in cut-scenes, so this is the manifestation of her powers.

Or she's only being used a little for now.

Sir Donald - November 18, 2011 09:38 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (MFD @ Nov 18 2011, 08:48 AM)
Anyone else think Maria was the Sovereign in Celes form? Just me?

No, I thought that too for a minute. And, no she isn't royalty, but it has not yet been established that a "royal" form is a necessity and not merely a preference.

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The strange girl reminds me of the Shard bearer.


How would we know if we haven't even seen her? Also, for the shard bearer to be in this world would require a hithertofore unknown gate between there and Nexus. Wouldn't you have thought that we would have a blink-and-you'll-miss-it type of reference to such a gate before now?

EDIT: That "cat" is a fur cloak that's shaped like a cat.

gopus - November 18, 2011 11:38 PM (GMT)
Wasn't she referred to as the strange little girl when she first took the Shard from Rydia?

Cyrus - November 19, 2011 01:22 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (mordain @ Nov 18 2011, 11:18 AM)
I'm not sure the Sovereign could or would speak without purple text... Maria's text was white before she even appeared on-panel.

It was more a fleeting thought on first glance from the purple hairties.

mordain - November 19, 2011 01:44 AM (GMT)
I didn't notice the purple hair-ties at first. That is odd.

It could be to distinguish her from Celes' blue hair-ties, but yeah, coincidences, Videoland, yadda yadda...

jaimehlers - November 19, 2011 02:07 AM (GMT)
If we go with the little girl as being an agent of the Sovereign (such as it is), she could have been touched (thus the purple hair ties), but given that Maria basically never appears in the game, it might not have worked right.

aturtledoesbite - November 19, 2011 01:59 PM (GMT)
Or, y'know, it could just be a matter of personal preference as to the hair ties. Geez, I know there are very few coincidences in Videoland, but realize that not *everything* means something.

LuppyLuptonium - November 19, 2011 03:42 PM (GMT)
Funny that before reading the comic I was listening to an english version of the opera

Tonberry2k - November 19, 2011 07:04 PM (GMT)
It could be purple just so we can tell the two apart...

Gaius - November 19, 2011 07:24 PM (GMT)
I don't think the selection of purple hair ties for Maria's hair was a coincidence.

But I'm presently thinking it might be an in-story coincidence. JayDee could have given her purple hair ties for several reasons (with the main being, as Tonberry said, telling Maria and Celes apart), but two that stand out:

1) The comic is called 'Hint of the Storm.' We all instantly associate (post-game added) purple with the Sovereign, so the hair ties might hint that her influence is going to be felt in a big way. Not that this is exactly a surprise, given Alex's lead-in, but hey. This may be a sign that Maria's going to be impacted by Sorrow, in some way.
2) JayDee knew we'd see it and obsess over it. Possibly to the point of missing something that becomes more important. A purple herring, if you will.

Just my two cents.

aturtledoesbite - November 19, 2011 09:06 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Gaius @ Nov 19 2011, 02:24 PM)
1) The comic is called 'Hint of the Storm.' We all instantly associate (post-game added) purple with the Sovereign, so the hair ties might hint that her influence is going to be felt in a big way. Not that this is exactly a surprise, given Alex's lead-in, but hey. This may be a sign that Maria's going to be impacted by Sorrow, in some way.
2) JayDee knew we'd see it and obsess over it. Possibly to the point of missing something that becomes more important. A purple herring, if you will.

Does anyone have a sprite of Maria from FF3? She may just have a purple hair tie in the original, and, like all sprites, she doesn't change her clothes much.

Also, that bigger thing that we may have missed might be the strange girl Maria mentioned. Or it could just be the fact that she's now, oh, what's the word? Oh right, kidnapped. No one here forgot that little detail, did they?

mordain - November 19, 2011 09:09 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (aturtledoesbite @ Nov 19 2011, 01:06 PM)
Or it could just be the fact that she's now, oh, what's the word? Oh right, kidnapped. No one here forgot that little detail, did they?

...by Ultros.

Knight - November 19, 2011 09:32 PM (GMT)
Yeah, I don't think anyone here is really worried about her safety. :P

aturtledoesbite - November 19, 2011 10:31 PM (GMT)
To be fair, I think he is at least somewhat competent once in the game. That is, when you have Banon and you're floating down the river. But yeah, I guess it really doesn't matter. That leaves the other point. That is, that the title could be referring to the girl Maria was talking about.

Also, I checked Maria's sprites. It's originally a greenish hair tie.

HeroicJay - November 19, 2011 11:32 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (aturtledoesbite @ Nov 19 2011, 02:06 PM)
Does anyone have a sprite of Maria from FF3? She may just have a purple hair tie in the original, and, like all sprites, she doesn't change her clothes much.

Maria never appeared in Final Fantasy VI (III on the SNES). Not once.

There's a painting in Owzer's mansion that shows (probably) Maria wearing the same color hair tie as Celes in the opera scene, though.

There's a Maria in Final Fantasy II (the real one, not IV on the SNES) but she has no hair ties (her hair itself is purple in the official art and remakes, though.)

Gaius - November 20, 2011 12:39 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (aturtledoesbite @ Nov 19 2011, 10:31 PM)
To be fair, I think he is at least somewhat competent once in the game. That is, when you have Banon and you're floating down the river.
I dunno... He seemed like a giant purple octopus that just randomly attacked people. And lost. If you mean how he managed to throw Sabin out of the battle screen, then maybe. ^_^o I'd kinda attribute that to Sabin throwing himself into an underwater fight with a sapient octopus. But yeah, Ultros then went on to randomly harass the party in places increasingly far from his element (in a building on a peninsula, on top of a mountain, in the sky).

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But yeah, I guess it really doesn't matter.
... Stupid brain, randomly missing that *mumble grumble* <_<
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That leaves the other point. That is, that the title could be referring to the girl Maria was talking about.
I agree, that seems pretty likely.
... Incidentally, I'm curious where these FFVI events falls on the greater Videoland timeline. Is this before Bob visits FF IV with the Shard of Tears? Afterward, but before Wily (quite possibly) captures her? After she escapes Wily (again, presuming he captured her)?

Spriteless Girl - November 20, 2011 02:20 AM (GMT)
She appears, once you can ride the airship you can stop by the opera house and watch her in the real opera. I am not about to find a cartridge and do that to check a hair tie, though. She's a minor enough character she might go Soul Blazer Lisa crazy. Maybe. Perhaps the starlet stereotype will save her from the void, as the fact that she does not have someone she loves to betray her. She could eventually Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead! Yaaay!

So, strange girl, hmm. May be more important than this anyways.

aturtledoesbite - November 20, 2011 04:11 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Gaius @ Nov 19 2011, 07:39 PM)
If you mean how he managed to throw Sabin out of the battle screen, then maybe. ^_^o I'd kinda attribute that to Sabin throwing himself into an underwater fight with a sapient octopus.

Actually, I meant that an inexperienced player could potentially lose that battle. And by "inexperienced", I mean something like a player playing all the way to that point, then having his/her little brother/sister bother him, wanting to play the game that their older sibling is playing, even though the child hasn't touched a SNES controller in his/her life. The older sibling gets annoyed enough to hand the kid the controller right before the battle. Then, and only then, could you potentially lose to Ultros.

EDIT: Also, note how I say you could *potentially* lose. There's still a good chance of victory. Just throwing that out there.

Gaius - November 20, 2011 04:48 AM (GMT)
... I'll pretend that such isn't about as true as it is for his future fights, and that you didn't describe him as 'at least somewhat competent.' :P No reason to dwell on what appears to be an unpleasant memory.

aturtledoesbite - November 20, 2011 04:54 PM (GMT)
Actually, it's not even that. I made that tale up on the spot just to give an idea on how pathetic the thing was.

...<light bulb>Wait a second. Could it be possible that Ultros's continued failures will drive him to sorrow? I've even figured out how the next couple of scenes will play out.

1) Main characters realize Maria is kidnapped.
2) Main characters send Ultros/Chupon away, hopefully Team Rocket style.
3) Ultros consideres his actions up to now, realizing how he never seems to win.
4) Strange girl Maria mentioned finds Ultros, happens to be one of the Sovereign's agents, and touches Ultros.
5) Ultros actually becomes slightly competent (maybe, still unsure on this one) and goes back to fight main characters.
6) Haven't worked out this far yet.

EDIT: If you're not sure what Team Rocket style is, it's when they go "We're blasting off againnnnnnnnnn!" and poof into a little sparkle. You know the one.

HeroicJay - November 20, 2011 07:02 PM (GMT)
There are some people who have trouble with the first Ultros fight - people who don't know how to use Banon (it's insta-Game Over if he falls, remember!) or people running low-level games. Spend some time on video game websites and you'll run into both varieties.

aturtledoesbite - November 20, 2011 08:01 PM (GMT)
HOW TO USE BANON (A BEGINNER'S GUIDE):
Step 1: Use Heal.
Step 2: Return to Step 1.

Low-level game?:
Levels mean virtually squat anyway. It's not like people don't normally beat the game at level 35.

Tonberry2k - November 20, 2011 09:49 PM (GMT)
http://spriters-resource.com/snes/ff6/sheet/31560

Celes is wearing "Maria"'s clothes at the wedding. It's a blue ribbon.

Andrusi - November 21, 2011 02:05 PM (GMT)
Guys. You're all making this way more complicated than it needs to be. Clearly, Maria's hair ribbon is touched. She is going to have to fight her own hairstyle.

aturtledoesbite - November 21, 2011 02:32 PM (GMT)
Yes. Clearly.

HeroicJay - November 21, 2011 07:39 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (aturtledoesbite @ Nov 20 2011, 01:01 PM)
HOW TO USE BANON (A BEGINNER'S GUIDE):
Step 1: Use Heal.
Step 2: Return to Step 1.

Low-level game?:
Levels mean virtually squat anyway. It's not like people don't normally beat the game at level 35.

You left out step zero:

Put him in the back row.

Seriously, if your level is too low, Ultros can OHKO a front-row Banon.




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