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 #722 Singular Price, A power older than Videoland...
gopus
Posted: Sep 28 2011, 05:12 PM


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Hope is using the same phraseology as Aslan in the Lion, the Witch, and the Warddrobe, when he gave himself as a sacrifice for Edward. The power of substitution and sacrifice preceded the laws and rules established when Narnia first started. I suspect this is what is going to happen here.

"Kevin" cannot return to the Real World because he is Mirror Kevin, OR his loss of Omega Energy makes him more like the natives (my two favorite theories).

Alpha energy isn't a destructive force, according to Hope. It builds up, likely.
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Posted: Sep 28 2011, 05:14 PM


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I don't think Hope dies, though. I think she seals herself along with the Sovereign...


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Posted: Sep 28 2011, 05:31 PM


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I don't think Hope will substitute HERSELF.
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Posted: Sep 28 2011, 08:46 PM


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Well, Proto said Hope was dead. This is probably where it happens.
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Sir Donald
Posted: Sep 28 2011, 09:56 PM


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It is too bad that Mega Man's "Plan Y" (as I call it) is doomed to fail; I mean, adding hope to sorrow gives one a balanced perspective on life.

Or does it?

Perhaps the reason why Mega Man was denied the Warp Zone's power is that the power itself somehow knew that adding Life to Sorrow would not destroy, convert, or neutralize it...

It could make for an invincible foe...

Basicaly, Mega was equipped to fight The Shadow King. Cecil and Frog are better matches (excuse the pun) for the Sovereign.

Which leaves this question: How would a Gamemaster have made a difference against the Sovereign? I can't see it. I can see against the Shadow King, but not the Sovereign.


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Well now, this brings about a very interesting question, one that I probably actually should've put in the crazy theories thread, but I don't fully have my theory done on this yet.

Presuming the Princess actually uses her spell (after MM's failure, of course), the SoS should be trapped in a seal that "no Videolander can break." Obviously, this means that the SoS will need someone from the outside world to break this seal. Given that the Gamemaster is the Sovereign's Champion, this would appear to be his duty as far as the SoS is concerned. This would explain a lot of who was behind the plan to first bring Alex to Videoland, especially as Lucca seems to be touched.

However, look a little closer at that last comic, and what happens to bring Alex to Videoland. Lucca sets up the device, but she's not the one that actually throws the switch and turns it on. Schrodinger is. Given what we've seen Schrodinger do since that summon, he definitely seems to know what he's doing.

Just what are Schrodinger's true motives here?


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Given that he's a "perfectly ordinary cat"... maybe a way back to the Real World and get to his Favorite Sunny Spot and Kitty Treats? I'll bet food taste is lesser, and sunlight doesn't feel as nice, when in sprite form.


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No. Schrodinger definitely has a good reason for what he's doing. And I believe that the cat brought Alex to Videoland because, while he is the only one that can set her free, he is likely also the only one that can completely destroy her. And unless she is destroyed, the touched still suffer. Though...I seem to remember one particular comic where Alex hints that he had not completely defeated the Sovereign yet (in the present, that is). I think the exchange went something like this:

Ryan(?): Good thing you beat the Sovereign, huh?
Alex: Yeah...

Notice the ellipsis. That tends to imply that there's more to it than that. Now if only I could remember which comic it was.
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Posted: Sep 29 2011, 03:10 AM


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Obviously the perfectly ordinary house cat, houses the mind of the SOS.


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For sussing out Schrodinger's objectives, all I can think about beyond what's been mentioned here is that Alex, while still unsure, has speculated the cat's presently trying to bring Ryan and Alex into some kind of final confrontation. But, if Schrodinger's seeking to end the Sovereign, perhaps the Alex-Ryan conflict is just another step: if Alex hasn't destroyed the Sovereign (as feels likely, to one degree or another), dealing conclusively with Ryan might be necessary before Alex can go on to really finish things with her.
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This is what brings about the Great Change, isn't it?
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QUOTE (Dark Hawk @ Sep 28 2011, 10:10 PM)
Obviously the perfectly ordinary house cat, houses the mind of the SOS.

No. The Mask does.


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QUOTE (Magil @ Sep 29 2011, 12:32 AM)
This is what brings about the Great Change, isn't it?

That's what I'm betting on...perhaps the Princess' spell has the side effect of completely redoing the landscape of Videoland. Or perhaps that's what it is...a spell to rebuild Videoland from the ground up, including sealing away all evil.

QUOTE ("Sir Donald")
Which leaves this question: How would a Gamemaster have made a difference against the Sovereign? I can't see it. I can see against the Shadow King, but not the Sovereign.

I don't see why not. I mean, a Gamemaster would likely be immune to Omega Energy, which takes away one of her strongest weapons. And keep in mind that Videoland works in the way the Gamemaster expects it to, making said Gamemaster at least as much a potential force of nature as the SoS.

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No. Schrodinger definitely has a good reason for what he's doing. And I believe that the cat brought Alex to Videoland because, while he is the only one that can set her free, he is likely also the only one that can completely destroy her. And unless she is destroyed, the touched still suffer.

Good point. She can still build up her army even in her current state of seclusion. Which would make it a matter of time before Videoland is destroyed anyhow.


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QUOTE (aturtledoesbite @ Sep 28 2011, 09:30 PM)
Notice the ellipsis. That tends to imply that there's more to it than that. Now if only I could remember which comic it was.

This one (which really should add the "Lonely Cell" tag).

Also, the Sovereign, for some reason, knows nothing about the cat. How would you not know anything regarding the actions of an ally? Especially when said "ally" does things that (seem to) frustrate your resurrection? (That last one also needs the "Lonely Cell" tag...)


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I don't see why not. I mean, a Gamemaster would likely be immune to Omega Energy, which takes away one of her strongest weapons. And keep in mind that Videoland works in the way the Gamemaster expects it to, making said Gamemaster at least as much a potential force of nature as the SoS.


That merely keeps the field neutral. That doesn't tell me how the Gamemaster is supposed to be able to be victorious over the Sovereign. (And, no, I don't call Sealing her away a victory... Alex himself says so in a comic that I can't seem to locate. ("If I had done what you did...")) Neutralizing her, converting her, setting her at peace, whatever... (So not destroying her either...)


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For the people commenting on comics that need location tags, this is because of the way the tagging process occurred and later changed. Many of the early comics are going to lack location tags. Pointing all of them out individually is not necessary.


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QUOTE (MFD @ Sep 29 2011, 08:34 AM)
QUOTE (Dark Hawk @ Sep 28 2011, 10:10 PM)
Obviously the perfectly ordinary house cat, houses the mind of the SOS.

No. The Mask does.

I was being pretentious.


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I think you mean facetious.


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Facetiously pretentious?
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QUOTE (Gaius @ Sep 29 2011, 03:24 PM)
Facetiously pretentious?

No, pretentiously facetious.


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Um. Can anyone explain what those words mean?
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