#750 Heartless Victory

Locke is a master of kill stealing because it lets him get to the treasure first.

EDIT: Also is Strago just having a normal heart attack from Kefka's re-appearance or is there something I missed from not playing Final Fantasy VI?

This post has been edited by Algasir on Dec 22 2011, 07:54 AM

He prefers to think of it as kill-treasure hunting.

Man, I really have to wonder how much of an embarrassing anti-climax the ending of the normal games must've been for all of the FF characters...

On the bright side, the heroes have finally figured out that the girl isn't quite...normal. On the not-so-bright side, she herself has not. Of course, it also doesn't help that she sees Kefka as just a clown. But that's countered by the fact that he dies in about ten seconds anyway.

First off, ahahahahaaaaa. That's one of the funniest things I've read in a while!

Secondly, probably pretty bad for every one of them but 7, 8, and 12. (samphamaroth getting bonus stats for each character at 99, Ultimecia leveling with you, and Vayne being able to ignore defenses and two shot max level characters as he pleases)

That whole prediction about the little girl running off with Kefka is getting ever more likely! Who knows, maybe it'll change him for the bett- pffffhahahahah, okay, I can't say that with a straight face.

7: Knights of the Round + Mime
8: Aura + Continuous use of limit breaks

Even at max level they don't really stand much of a chance. Can't comment on 12 though.

For XII, once you hit 99, you can pretty much just attack with the occasional Scathe when he puts up a Paling and you're good to go. He's only got around 200,000 HP, I think. Hell, a completely-maxed character can easily do 9999*12 damage per attack. So yeah, two of those and that's it...granted, even with max levels, you have to be fairly lucky to chain off two 12-hit combos.

EDIT: Also, for your VII and VIII strategies:
VII) Yeah, sure, we can do KotR. Of course, that's only if you have a few hours of spare time.
VIII) To make that even easier, start off with Meltdown. Attack that reduces Defense (and maybe M. Defense) to zero. No enemy in the game is resistant. This lets pretty much any character hit for 9999. Couple that with the fact that Squall's Lion Heart hits for, I think, 25 times...yeah.

EDIT2: Back on topic, I find it interesting how Celes sees the girl responsible for Strago's recent bad health, as well.

Also, I wonder if that three months in the forest are in-game or real-world...

EDIT3 (eventually I'll run out of details to notice after I finish editing ): Well, at least this confirms that Locke had the Atma Weapon. Though, I don't understand what he means by "Stole it from rest."

Hmm...It also seems that the girl has more powers than just summoning. She managed to revive Kefka easily. Curious about that is that I don't think young Rydia learns Life. Hell, I know for a fact that she doesn't learn Cure2.

This post has been edited by aturtledoesbite on Dec 22 2011, 02:14 PM

She doesn't seem to be casting a spell.

As an editor I looked up Rest. You can steal a second Atma Weapon from it. So Locke is equipped with Atma x 2.

It's a shame FF8 is not a SNES-era game, because it has the silliest way to break the game:

Because all the monsters (including the final boss!) scale with you, and you can increase your stats without leveling via the junctioning system, the best way to break the game in half is to fight as little as possible, try not to level up, etc.

I watched a guy play that game who faced off against the final boss, who was level 13 and only had 12,000ish HP when the main character could hit for 9999!

I'm standing by someone's earlier outburst that the Shard basically has the power of RETCON.

It was made quite clear, however, that Sorrow can only *enhance* traits. Not grant them.

Also, dare I ask where that picture is from?

Granted powers, yes, but the girl is carrying the shard itself. I suspect there's a few powers specific to the shard and/or mask, that the bearer can manipulate.

That doesn't explain how Lisa went from having no powers at all to being able to hunt down and destroy every hero named Alex in Videoland, though...

And I have no idea. It's been around this forum for a long time.

Megas XLR, The Big Red Button that changes its label depending on the episode. I'm fairly certain that's an edit as I don't remember that label happening in the show.

On the comic, why do I get the feeling that even if she hears him do an evil rant, she'll think its a comedy routine?

Hmm...let's rewind here. First off, let me state all the facts that we know about this girl:
1) She's looking for her mother.
2) She lives in a town between a desert and a cave.
3) She's giving off a dense aura of sorrow. (Also Touched, but that's implied.)
4) She is, in some way, responsible for Kefka and magic returning, Terra becoming an Esper again and flying off, and Strago's heart attack.
5) Her concept of a wedding involves princesses and chocobos.
6) She likes clowns.

Now, for what seem to be the general consensus on matters (feel free to correct/yell at me):
1) She is Rydia's child form, before the Package destroyed Mist.
2) She is the girl that stole the Shard of Tears from Bob, had a possible run-in with the Puzzle Wizard, was caught by Dr. Wily, and escaped to locations unknown.

Now then, you people use this to try to explain things.

P.S. Why exactly do they keep killing Kefka if he's harmless? I mean, instinct's one thing, but you'd think that they would have learned by now.

He's harmless to the overleveled main characters. He's still apocalyptic to everybody else.

Well, now that everyone else is evacuated, there should be no trouble. Not to mention Kefka has a few bones to pick with the PCs, so he'll obviously focus on them first.

Lisa was able to hit Pause on reality, though. I don't really know her in-game role very well beyond 'love interest,' but that... really doesn't feel like a natural extension of her abilities. Is it possible the 'only natural qualities' statement either wasn't true (particularly if from a questionable speaker) or was incomplete?

As for all the dead Alexes... Even only being able to Pause everyone but herself (and other Touched?) could be a pretty ridiculous boon for a murderer. One could even argue that a love interest is about getting closer to the hero than anyone, so being Touched could enhance that capacity. And once close enough that the hero's guard is down (possibly in a cutscene), out comes the knife. Yay, wild speculation~

It looks like an edited picture from Megas-XLR. Of course, given the nature of the show, it would not surprise me if it was unedited. ^__^

EDIT: And ninja'd. Glee. ^_^o

EDIT2: And Locke in the final panel gives a good explanation for why Kefka continues to die: the treasure hunter thought Kefka might be legitimately threatening after the girl's pep-talk. Which, to be honest, really looked like it might happen, for a moment there.

This post has been edited by Gaius on Dec 22 2011, 05:55 PM

He's not harmless; he's just weak compared to them.

It also sounded like he was going to get a massive power boost from the girl, there (half of you expected it too). Fortunately his pure and loving heart is apparently not very strong.

I don't see how. I mean, he's obviously very pure and loving. He's like FFVI's Saint Teresa. He even (indirectly) created an orphanage!

I'm just calling out the circumstantial evidence, here. Talk to JD about his scandalous defamation of Kefka's character.

Need I remind people that Kid!Rydia had White Magic in her skillset?

EDIT: Oh, and *nearly choked* on Turtle's most recent post.

This post has been edited by Sir Donald on Dec 22 2011, 10:24 PM