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 #767 Undermining the bad guy's plan, AGAIN!
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Posted: Mar 30 2012, 12:44 AM


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This seems like a case of the pot calling the kettle black.
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Zap Rowsdower
Posted: Mar 30 2012, 12:57 AM


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So, what just happend? Did she just undo the reviving of Kefka or something?


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Posted: Mar 30 2012, 01:37 AM


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Kefka got away (correct me if you can find anything that contradicts that conclusion), and now has an unconscious ϋber-touched-possibly-shard-bearing Celes with him.

This... is a dubious improvement at best, Celes.


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Posted: Mar 30 2012, 01:46 AM


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No, actually, it's much better. You see, there's two possibilities, either kid-Rydia has the shard, or Celes has the shard. If kid-Rydia has the shard, Kefka can presumably manipulate her to use it to destroy other worlds; if Celes has the shard, Kefka's stuck because he can't force her to use it. He might be able to kill her, but I find it unlikely.


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Posted: Mar 30 2012, 02:06 AM


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QUOTE (jaimehlers @ Mar 29 2012, 05:46 PM)
if Celes has the shard, Kefka's stuck because he can't force her to use it.

You sure? She's so heavily touched that she's probably lost a lot of her ability to... well, not go nilhistically emo. If she actually is the Shardbearer now, she's more likely to be the one using Kefka, kinda like the Sinestrals were mostly just being puppets.

Even setting that aside as somewhat unsubstantiated speculation, I can't imagine that the "Nothing left... nothing..." was completely meaningless and that she'll be back up on her feet again soon and fighting Kefka. Kefka's raring to go and wreck havoc on new worlds (and he's got at least a reasonable level of power and cunning to try it with). Celes is... touched, drained, and unconscious.


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Posted: Mar 30 2012, 02:12 AM


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QUOTE (mordain @ Mar 29 2012, 09:06 PM)
Celes is... touched, drained, and unconscious.

I've seen enough hentai to know where this is go-

*SHOT*


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Posted: Mar 30 2012, 02:16 AM


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...yeah, I could've phrased that better.

Although I just realized that they very well might land on top of Locke, so there's that.

But yeah, I'm probably being overly paranoid. Celes seems to know what she's doing.

...right?


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Posted: Mar 30 2012, 02:34 AM


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QUOTE (mordain @ Mar 29 2012, 10:16 PM)
...yeah, I could've phrased that better.

Although I just realized that they very well might land on top of Locke, so there's that.

But yeah, I'm probably being overly paranoid. Celes seems to know what she's doing.

...right?

No. She's extremely Touched. She THINKS she knows what she's doing.


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Posted: Mar 30 2012, 02:55 AM


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I have a different theory:

Note the second Spell: Omega-Zone. All of her Purple Glowy energy left her at that point...

... and converged again upon Kidia. Furthermore, it's implied that the warp is sending her to a different destination from Celes & Kefka.

The "nothing left" means she no longer has the shard's powers, though she retains her Touched status.

This likely means that the Shard (or its power) realized that Kefka would be as bad as the Shadow King and wanted out post-haste.

End result: FF6 World Touched, Celes and Kefka Gone, Kefka denied the power of corrupting worlds...

... and the Sovereign (or at least the Shard) is free once more. Where is it going? Only the Sovereign knows... But, though it would likely end better than if Kefka retained the shard, that isn't saying much. Even so, the Sovereign is the ultimate winner of that battle.


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Posted: Mar 30 2012, 02:55 AM


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I don't think Celes has the Shard. She bled out the purple aura by casting Omega Quick and Omega Zone.

So, Celes and Kefka are headed to the Void with Locke. Kid Rydia... is clearly headed elsewhere.


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Posted: Mar 30 2012, 04:27 AM


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Huh. So, now I think this was the Sovereign's plan, because now the shard is sealed with the body. Where else would the Omega zone be?


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Posted: Mar 30 2012, 07:04 AM


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Or, Celes sent Rydia away from Kefka (and herself) and the "nothing left" means she has nothing left to fight for.


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Posted: Mar 30 2012, 11:48 AM


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No, it probably means that she just drained herself (of Omega energy) casting those spells.


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Posted: Mar 30 2012, 12:54 PM


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"Omega Zone" totally sounds like it should be the name of some obscure kids' book series trying to cash in on Goosebumps with badly-retold Twilight Zone plots.


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Posted: Mar 30 2012, 01:22 PM


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Dubious improvement aside, I have to respect this course of action for killing the "can't act during a cutscene" thing.
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Posted: Mar 30 2012, 02:21 PM


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Omigoodness... I think Kefka might be the Shadow King... And I think Celes might be the Herald... that would explain why Alex went to the Final Fantasy world to discuss the Shadow King, and why Celes said she was going to hit the reset button, and why we never see the Herald...

Celes knew the future and Kefka understood Omega energy...

They were taken to the past!


... Or not. Whatevs.

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Posted: Mar 30 2012, 03:29 PM


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While an interesting (if crazy) theory, I'm pretty sure the only reason that Alex was telling the FFVI arc was to show that "cause and effect" aren't static in videoland because the shard has the power of RETCON.
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Posted: Mar 30 2012, 07:12 PM


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That, and to keep us (including "Ryan") appraised of the status of 1/3rd of the Sovereign relative to story events, that is: the Shard was not idle while Alex was in prison.


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Posted: Mar 30 2012, 08:07 PM


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QUOTE (Spriteless Girl @ Mar 30 2012, 04:27 AM)
Huh. So, now I think this was the Sovereign's plan, because now the shard is sealed with the body. Where else would the Omega zone be?

Omega Zone could plausibly send it to where the Sovereign's body is. It could also very easily send it somewhere we don't know about or haven't thought of in such a capacity. After all, we only recently learned the Void was a thing with the history it has.

I'm inclined to think Omega Zone's destination isn't the same as the Sovereign's form. As a Touched, Celes can certainly be deluded to act in ways that suit the Sovereign, but isn't going to actively help her like that.

Speculation of my own! Someone please come pick it apart.
Maybe Omega Zone more-or-less randomizes the target's destination, dropping it off just about anywhere in Videoland. Or perhaps back outside whatever portal/gate brought it to the world it's leaving (i.e. likely Nexus).
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QUOTE (Gaius @ Mar 30 2012, 04:07 PM)
Speculation of my own! Someone please come pick it apart.
Maybe Omega Zone more-or-less randomizes the target's destination, dropping it off just about anywhere in Videoland. Or perhaps back outside whatever portal/gate brought it to the world it's leaving (i.e. likely Nexus).

I'd go for the randomization option. All Celes wants to do is get it away from her and Kefka. Granted, if she (consciously) wanted to send it to a particular dimension, she probably would've dropped a hint in the incantation.

Note that I said "consciously". Once again, the Sovereign is in play here.

As to where Kidia's headed... I have a theory...

EDIT: Just realized something: What'll happen to all the Monsters in the room? They're still there!

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