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 Do Good People Go To Heaven?, You may be surpised at this...
Admin.Arron.
Posted: Aug 24 2007, 09:11 AM


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Hey,


I do have non Christian loved ones. But I WON'T feel sorry because I will not have the capacity to; In Heaven, we are free from sin and are perfect; thus, I would view God's Justice as totally perfect and wouldn't feel upset.

And death is the absence of life in a physical sense; the Bible teaches that once this body dies, we receive new ones, either for the resurrection of the damned or the resurrection of the sanctified.



In Christ,


Arron


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Posted: Aug 24 2007, 06:36 PM


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'Hey,'
why adress anybody like that? just out of interest from an entymological point of view.

'I do have non Christian loved ones. But I WON'T feel sorry because I will not have the capacity to; In Heaven, we are free from sin and are perfect; thus, I would view God's Justice as totally perfect and wouldn't feel upset.'

sorry but i see absolutely no logic in that!
so you feel that sending someone to the endless torments of the underworld is justice?
surely you must value REHABILITATION over RETRIBUTION after all you are a christian...
it certainly does not seem very christian to me this system your god has
Admin.Arron.
Posted: Aug 25 2007, 07:54 AM


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Hello,


No, it is perfectly just. Every human is a lying, theiving, blasphemeing, murdering (God said "he who hates his brother is a murderer") parent-dishonouring, lusting, deceitful, greedy, idolatrous adulterer at heart; God has offered us rehabilitation right now, in the form of the Cross of Christ, but we must turn away from our sin (see above) and trust in Jesus.



Arron


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But giveth neither feet nor hands,
A greater Hope the Gospel brings,
It bids thee fly and gives thee wings.
'Der Zorn Gottes'
Posted: Aug 29 2007, 11:14 AM


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what about the little hindu boy living in india who's never heard of jesus?
does he deserve hell?
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Posted: Aug 29 2007, 01:17 PM


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Nope... The bible says that people will be shown mercy when they reach heaven if they haven't heard about him....


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'Der Zorn Gottes'
Posted: Aug 30 2007, 09:42 AM


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so hearing about YbJ is an obvious DISADVANTAGE to many people.
what if the hindu boy grows up and kills lots of people. does he still go to heaven btw?
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Posted: Aug 30 2007, 12:11 PM


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Depends what he is taught... If he is taugh that Hinduism is the true way and he knows no better, and he is taught to kill, then God will show mercy and give him a chance to repent....

It is however difficult not to know about Jesus as it is a big controvesy amongst religions.


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'Der Zorn Gottes'
Posted: Aug 31 2007, 01:04 PM


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well i don't know about Yehoshua ben Joseph at all!
i didn't know him!
i have no idea what he did in his life!
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Posted: Aug 31 2007, 01:32 PM


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It's intriguing that you've brought up Hinduism. Most Hindus are prepared to accept the divinity of Christ, just not that He is the only God.

DZG, you have heard of Christ, you have heard the Good News. Ignorance is not a defence in your case and so your objection is purely academic.

Admirable though your love for those who haven't heard is, it is not directly significant for your own salvation.

God bless smile.gif


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Posted: Aug 31 2007, 02:09 PM


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Amen Quenched tongue.gif


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Admin.Arron.
Posted: Sep 1 2007, 07:36 PM


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Hey,


Personally, I can't give a firm answer regarding people who've never heard. Romans chapter 1 definitely teaches that the witness of creation and the moral law on your heart is enough to be condemned -- but Jesus did say that the servants who were ignorant of the masters command would receive fewer stripes...

So, I can't actually say, I'm afraid.


But, as Quenched says, YOUR salvation is dependent upon you coming to Jesus. you are aware of the need to repent and accept christ by faith, as it has been made known to you. Plus, your country is one where the knowledge is adundantly available. You are left without excuse. Accept Christ and be saved, I beg you.



In Christ,



Arron


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"Run, Run" the Law commands,
But giveth neither feet nor hands,
A greater Hope the Gospel brings,
It bids thee fly and gives thee wings.
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