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BeRzErKeR
Posted: Aug 19 2008, 03:47 AM


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Y'know, the more I hear about Fifth Ed., the less I like it. Seems like they've cut out all the even semi-realistic aspects. But thanks for letting me know. That makes that wagon slightly less useful.

Also, how does the Ork Waagh! ability (give Fleet of Foot) work in conjuction with Running? Does anybody know?


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Is cheaper than them uniforms, an' they're starvation cheap;
An' hustlin' drunken soldiers when they're goin' large a bit
Is five times better business than paradin' in full kit.
Then it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, 'ow's yer soul?"
But it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll,
The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll,
O it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll."

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Lord Jacobus
Posted: Aug 19 2008, 09:05 AM


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if you run with normal peoples you cant assault, if your run with fleet, you still assault, with the charge move still.. so thats a possible 18 inch move a turn, with lucky dice.. me .. i got ones and twos for every run last game i played lol stupid marines and their bulky powered armour hehe


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Commissar Molotov
Posted: Aug 19 2008, 02:04 PM


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QUOTE (BeRzErKeR @ Aug 19 2008, 04:47 AM)
Y'know, the more I hear about Fifth Ed., the less I like it. Seems like they've cut out all the even semi-realistic aspects. But thanks for letting me know. That makes that wagon slightly less useful.

Also, how does the Ork Waagh! ability (give Fleet of Foot) work in conjuction with Running? Does anybody know?

Actually, Orks are one of the most powerful armies in 40k now.

As to fleet:

If you have fleet, you're able to move 6", run D6" and then assault a further 6". It's incredibly powerful - at least in the games I've seen around here.


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Brother-Librarian Akritedes
Posted: Aug 19 2008, 02:12 PM


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*insert rant about Codex Creep here*


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BeRzErKeR
Posted: Aug 19 2008, 02:49 PM


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QUOTE (Commissar Molotov @ Aug 19 2008, 10:04 AM)
QUOTE (BeRzErKeR @ Aug 19 2008, 04:47 AM)
Y'know, the more I hear about Fifth Ed., the less I like it. Seems like they've cut out all the even semi-realistic aspects. But thanks for letting me know. That makes that wagon slightly less useful.

Also, how does the Ork Waagh! ability (give Fleet of Foot) work in conjuction with Running? Does anybody know?

Actually, Orks are one of the most powerful armies in 40k now.

As to fleet:

If you have fleet, you're able to move 6", run D6" and then assault a further 6". It's incredibly powerful - at least in the games I've seen around here.

But can't anybody do that, with the Run ability that infantry have now in Fifth Ed.? Or are they not allowed to assault if they Run, or something?


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"Yes, makin' mock o' uniforms that guard you while you sleep
Is cheaper than them uniforms, an' they're starvation cheap;
An' hustlin' drunken soldiers when they're goin' large a bit
Is five times better business than paradin' in full kit.
Then it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, 'ow's yer soul?"
But it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll,
The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll,
O it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll."

-Rudyard Kipling, "Tommy"
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Lord Jacobus
Posted: Aug 19 2008, 03:29 PM


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QUOTE
if you run with normal peoples you cant assault, if your run with fleet, you still assault, with the charge move still.. so thats a possible 18 inch move a turn, with lucky dice.. me .. i got ones and twos for every run last game i played lol stupid marines and their bulky powered armour hehe


If you had botherd to read you would have noticed that I said that. But of course you just ignore my two cents like everyone else so here we go again.

If you run, when you dont have the fleet rule, You cant assault.
If your run, When you Do have the fleet rule, you Can assault.

And so its simple, makes orks even more horrible. along with nids.


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BeRzErKeR
Posted: Aug 19 2008, 04:22 PM


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Oh, wow. Sorry, Jacobus, I totally missed your post sad.gif . My bad.

But, let me get this straight; Under the new rules, if I give up shooting with my two footslogger mobs the first turn (heh, no real loss there) and declare a Waagh! on the second, I can get a d6" move in the shooting phase on BOTH turns? And still assault on the second?

Wow, that is f*cking broken.


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"Yes, makin' mock o' uniforms that guard you while you sleep
Is cheaper than them uniforms, an' they're starvation cheap;
An' hustlin' drunken soldiers when they're goin' large a bit
Is five times better business than paradin' in full kit.
Then it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, 'ow's yer soul?"
But it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll,
The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll,
O it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll."

-Rudyard Kipling, "Tommy"
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Lord Jacobus
Posted: Aug 19 2008, 04:28 PM


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just means i need about... 2 heavy weapons platoons with 9 heavy bolters... nothing broken with that. And tis allright man, i sorrta blew it outa proportion so I should apologise, as i am now, i am sorry for snappin at ya. ..


mind you.. it does provide incentive to get some nids to go with my starship troopers themed guard force..


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BeRzErKeR
Posted: Aug 19 2008, 06:58 PM


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And after sinking all those points into those HW platoons, won't it be a disappointment to watch them get blown to hell by my gunwagon? wink.gif

Anyway, heavy bolters won't stop my mega-armored pwnage posse from giving yer weedy 'oomie arse a right good kickin'. 15 wounds with a 2+ save, friend. Gotta love it.


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"Yes, makin' mock o' uniforms that guard you while you sleep
Is cheaper than them uniforms, an' they're starvation cheap;
An' hustlin' drunken soldiers when they're goin' large a bit
Is five times better business than paradin' in full kit.
Then it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, 'ow's yer soul?"
But it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll,
The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll,
O it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll."

-Rudyard Kipling, "Tommy"
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Lord Jacobus
Posted: Aug 19 2008, 07:25 PM


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allright then lol... change that too lascannons and well make it an apocalypse game, that way i can get my marine boys into the fight and give ya a good proper go of it lol


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Captain Seato
Posted: Aug 20 2008, 04:28 PM


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QUOTE (Brother-Librarian Akritedes @ Aug 19 2008, 10:12 AM)
*insert rant about Codex Creep here*

Seconded.


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Brother-Librarian Akritedes
Posted: Aug 20 2008, 11:43 PM


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allright then lol... change that too lascannons and well make it an apocalypse game, that way i can get my marine boys into the fight and give ya a good proper go of it lol


Okay, so if you get turn one, your lascannons score three hits (1/3 chance of hit). If the Mega-Nobz are T4, you instafrag three. If they're T5, you drop one. Then on turn two, you get three hits and instafrag two or take two wounds off of one. Then they hit your lines like a nuclear holocaust and shove a powerklaw so far up your arse that your tongue gets electrocuted. That's all if you have LOS, nothing else screws you up, and you have first turn.

And, oh yeah, while your lascannons were busy plinking away? The footsloggers and gunwagon just finished stomping the rest of your army. You blinked, game over. *yawn*

This, more than my legions of unassembled and unpainted Ultramarines, are why I don't play 40K anymore. dry.gif


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Lord Jacobus
Posted: Aug 21 2008, 12:23 AM


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you forgot my baneblade(s)


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In the Name of the Holy Emperor Of Mankind
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And by Order of High Marshell Hopkinus
Of the Dark Templar

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BeRzErKeR
Posted: Aug 21 2008, 03:43 AM


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Now, wait. If we're playing Apocalypse here, I have six more battlewagons and another few (hundred) ladz that want in on the scrap.

Ak; I think the Space Marines are decently balanced against the Orks, or at least they were in 4th Ed. I know nothing about 5th, so I couldn't say. And Ogryn can give Orks a decent fight. . .

But really, lascannons? Against Orks? Come on.

This post has been edited by BeRzErKeR on Aug 21 2008, 03:44 AM


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"Yes, makin' mock o' uniforms that guard you while you sleep
Is cheaper than them uniforms, an' they're starvation cheap;
An' hustlin' drunken soldiers when they're goin' large a bit
Is five times better business than paradin' in full kit.
Then it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, 'ow's yer soul?"
But it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll,
The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll,
O it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll."

-Rudyard Kipling, "Tommy"
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Brother-Librarian Akritedes
Posted: Aug 21 2008, 12:03 PM


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QUOTE (Lord Jacobus @ Aug 20 2008, 07:23 PM)
you forgot my baneblade(s)

*yawn*

Fighta-Bomba. One attack run against the back. Boom. Tankbustas in an assault (and you won't kill enough to stop them, they're Orks for crying out loud). Regular ol' Nobs with a powerklaw and a bad attitude. *If* you're fool enough to play Apoc. against orks and come within demolisher cannon range, you deserve all of that and more for your insolence. And you hardly even need a model for the Fighta-Bomba.

Berzerker: The problem is, we aren't talking 4th Ed any more. GW's "Bright Ideas" dev team has come up with yet another clever way to break the game (and unlike Privateer Press, they won't try to fix it either).


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