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 The Admin Alliance VS Kira, The Second Battle of Ikana Canyon
Duke Leto Atreides
Posted: Jul 8 2008, 10:10 PM


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Group: Veteran
Posts: 83
Member No.: 32
Joined: 23-June 08



Attackers
Troops
400 Gorons
400 Dinalfos
300 White Wolfos Archers
100 Dodongoes
100 Ice Bats
100 Iron Knuckles

1,400

Supplies:

Fire Arrows
Gilded Swords

Troops
50 Wolfos
150 Blue Bubbles
300 Gibdos
200 Red Wizrobes
100 Blue Wizrobes
200 Archers
200 Spearmen
200 Swordsmen

Total 1400

Supplies:

Swords
Bows
Mirror Armor
Spears
Fire Arrows
Catapults
Ballistae
Deku Nuts
Infinite torches
Bomb Arrows
Ice Arrows

Troops:
1,000 Zora Knights
600 Pirate Guards
550 Elite Guards
500 Pirate Archers
400 Dinolfos
300 Zora Scythmen
50 Wizzrobes
50 Deku Archers
50 Blue Bubbles

Total: 3,500

Supplies:
Horses
Steel Armour
Leather Archer Armour
Steel Horse Armour
Kite Shields
Small Shields
Bows
Swords
Spears
Wizzrobe Staffs
Hookshots
Onagers*
Medium Rocks*

Vaati
Me
Desquode

Tis the day to attack, and as such, Rhalen has insisted that he take over the patrols for the day. Seeing little to no resistance from Kira (as resistance would mean the death of his patrols), Rhalen's men are free to open the gates to Darius and Vaati.

Darius and Vaati set out and to Ikana, stop two arrowshots away from Kira's wooden wall. A lone messenger will ride to the wall and deliver a letter. It will say "Surrender to us, or we WILL destroy you. You are highly outnumbered and have nowhere to run. ... What say you?"

If he is shot on the way to the wall, or he doesn't surrender, go to the next paragraph. If not, read on. Darius' Army will surround Kira's troops and take them as prisoners. Skull Keeta will be tied and given to Rhalen, who has "plans" for him. 100 Gorons and 100 Dinalofos will go with Darius to settle everything in there.

If he declines surrender, Rhalen's archers will fire flaming arrows at the wooden wall while the rest will viciously enter his lands, being careful for anything that might fall from the canyon walls. The Ice Bats will engage in any aerial troops, freezing them and sending them to their doom. They will also be looking for Skull Keeta, whom Rhalen had mentioned he wanted alive.

Once inside Vaati and Darius will proceed to the graveyard. Once there, they shall slaughter. Iron Knuckles will take the front line, pushing them back. Behind them are Dinalfos, breathing fire to help them. Whi. Wolf. Archers will be behind the front lines, aiding in the aerial and ground battles. Dodongoes will start attacking once the battle is in full force, crushing and immolating the enemy. Gorons will help Iron Knuckles, and vice versa.

Darius' Archers will be with the Wolfos Archers, aiding them. They will use the Hookshots to get better ground His troops will be aiding Vaati's assault. Sycthmen will be doing cleaving moves (side sweeps), Elite Guards will help the Iron Knuckles, and Pirates Guards will weave in and out of the individual battles, slashing at the enemy's when they let their guard down in various areas. They will also try and get them to focus their attention on them, allowing Iron Knuckles to cut the enemy in half. Anyone on horses will be trampling the enemy with the Dodongoes.

At the same time, Rhalen's men (except the archers since they were the ones to take over the patrol) will be holed up inside the tunnel, where they are ordered to kill Kira's men as they come, but they will allow themselves to be pushed back until they can hide and of kira's remaining men in the well. If Vaati and or Darius have proceeded to the well to try to crush kira's men between their forces and Rhalen's, they will all have to be destroyed.


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Duke Leto Atreides
Posted: Jul 8 2008, 10:14 PM


Sergeant
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Group: Veteran
Posts: 83
Member No.: 32
Joined: 23-June 08



Defence
Defending:
Troops:
150 Stalchilderen Acrchers
150 Stalchilderen
240 Iron Knuckles
85 Keese
345 Bombchus
600 Redeads
200 Red Wizzrobes
100 Blue Bubbles
100 Stalchilderen Swordsmen
15 Ice Keese
15 Fire Keese
10 Freezards
15 Skulltulas
15 Wallmasters
100 Gorons
Big Poe
Skull Keta

Total: 1442


Phase 1:
When my units see the enemy the 5 Bombchus will run to alert me. The 10 Iron Knuckles will keep the enemies busy.

Phase 2:
We will see if we can take them. If we can then my units will line up like this 100 Iron Knuckles then 200 Redeads then 100 Wizrobes. The Iron Knuckles will attack any thing they can while the Redeads scream to stop enemies while the Wizrobes fire Fireballs at the enemies. The 100 Stal Swordsmen will dig under ground and come up behind the enemies and attack. Skull Keeta will attack enemies with his sword. The Wallmaster will catch enemies and drop them in the mountains.

Phase 3:
The 80 Stal Archers will stand where Skull Keeta breaks the bridge (in MM) and shoot enemies down also 80 Wizrobes will shoot the arrows with fire to make them Fire Arrows and attack units. The 100 Gorons will curl up in a ball at the top of the hill and will roll down the hill if they see any enemies. Then they start to punch any enemies. Behind the Gorons will be 70 Stal Archers will then shoot any enemies if the enemy gets close they will use there daggers to try and fight them off.

Phase 4:
While all of this is going on the Fire, Ice, and normal Keeses will attack any flying units.
The 100 Stalchlidren will go under ground with 100 Bombchus and try and get under the enemies the then the Stalchildren will dig away while the Bombchus will exploded.

Phase 5:
The rest of my units will try to escape down the while 50 Bombchus stay at the entrance of the tunnel. If they see enemies coming up they will blow up the entrance of the tunnel to shut it off. If they see my units retreating they will wait to till they get inside the tunnel then explode it.

Notes:
The Stal Archers and Wizrobes will retreat if they lose half there #s.
Skull Keeta will bury himself if the enemys try to capture him.
The Stal Swordsmen and Archers have Mirror Armor.


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Rhalasslehoffedin
Posted: Jul 9 2008, 06:29 PM


Land Wars Chief
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Group: Landwars Champion
Posts: 1,630
Member No.: 5
Joined: 17-May 07



Mod faster!
Kira
Posted: Jul 10 2008, 01:17 PM


Fire Fire Fire!
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Group: Veteran
Posts: 359
Member No.: 31
Joined: 25-April 08



Mod slower. tongue.gif
Lord Darius of the Western Seas
Posted: Jul 11 2008, 03:37 PM


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Group: Landwars Officials
Posts: 437
Member No.: 4
Joined: 17-May 07



Just get the thing done already. -__-


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Count Vaati of the North
Posted: Jul 11 2008, 06:09 PM


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Posts: 781
Member No.: 1
Joined: 17-May 07



Me vote be on Rhalen modding, arrgh!

(stole your line, Darius)
Rhalasslehoffedin
Posted: Jul 11 2008, 07:12 PM


Land Wars Chief
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Group: Landwars Champion
Posts: 1,630
Member No.: 5
Joined: 17-May 07



Attackers
Troops
400 Gorons
400 Dinalfos
300 White Wolfos Archers
100 Dodongoes
100 Ice Bats
100 Iron Knuckles

1,400

Supplies:

Fire Arrows
Gilded Swords

Troops
50 Wolfos
150 Blue Bubbles
300 Gibdos
200 Red Wizrobes
100 Blue Wizrobes
200 Archers
200 Spearmen
200 Swordsmen

Total 1400

Supplies:

Swords
Bows
Mirror Armor
Spears
Fire Arrows
Catapults
Ballistae
Deku Nuts
Infinite torches
Bomb Arrows
Ice Arrows

Troops:
1,000 Zora Knights
600 Pirate Guards
550 Elite Guards
500 Pirate Archers
400 Dinolfos
300 Zora Scythmen
50 Wizzrobes
50 Deku Archers
50 Blue Bubbles

Total: 3,500

Supplies:
Horses
Steel Armour
Leather Archer Armour
Steel Horse Armour
Kite Shields
Small Shields
Bows
Swords
Spears
Wizzrobe Staffs
Hookshots
Onagers*
Medium Rocks*

Vaati
Me
Desquode

Tis the day to attack, and as such, Rhalen has insisted that he take over the patrols for the day. Seeing little to no resistance from Kira (as resistance would mean the death of his patrols), Rhalen's men are free to open the gates to Darius and Vaati.

Darius and Vaati set out and to Ikana, stop two arrowshots away from Kira's wooden wall. A lone messenger will ride to the wall and deliver a letter. It will say "Surrender to us, or we WILL destroy you. You are highly outnumbered and have nowhere to run. ... What say you?"

If he is shot on the way to the wall, or he doesn't surrender, go to the next paragraph. If not, read on. Darius' Army will surround Kira's troops and take them as prisoners. Skull Keeta will be tied and given to Rhalen, who has "plans" for him. 100 Gorons and 100 Dinalofos will go with Darius to settle everything in there.

If he declines surrender, Rhalen's archers will fire flaming arrows at the wooden wall while the rest will viciously enter his lands, being careful for anything that might fall from the canyon walls. The Ice Bats will engage in any aerial troops, freezing them and sending them to their doom. They will also be looking for Skull Keeta, whom Rhalen had mentioned he wanted alive.

Once inside Vaati and Darius will proceed to the graveyard. Once there, they shall slaughter. Iron Knuckles will take the front line, pushing them back. Behind them are Dinalfos, breathing fire to help them. Whi. Wolf. Archers will be behind the front lines, aiding in the aerial and ground battles. Dodongoes will start attacking once the battle is in full force, crushing and immolating the enemy. Gorons will help Iron Knuckles, and vice versa.

Darius' Archers will be with the Wolfos Archers, aiding them. They will use the Hookshots to get better ground His troops will be aiding Vaati's assault. Sycthmen will be doing cleaving moves (side sweeps), Elite Guards will help the Iron Knuckles, and Pirates Guards will weave in and out of the individual battles, slashing at the enemy's when they let their guard down in various areas. They will also try and get them to focus their attention on them, allowing Iron Knuckles to cut the enemy in half. Anyone on horses will be trampling the enemy with the Dodongoes.

At the same time, Rhalen's men (except the archers since they were the ones to take over the patrol) will be holed up inside the tunnel, where they are ordered to kill Kira's men as they come, but they will allow themselves to be pushed back until they can hide and of kira's remaining men in the well. If Vaati and or Darius have proceeded to the well to try to crush kira's men between their forces and Rhalen's, they will all have to be destroyed.

Defense
Defending:
Troops:
150 Stalchilderen Acrchers
150 Stalchilderen
240 Iron Knuckles
85 Keese
345 Bombchus
600 Redeads
200 Red Wizzrobes
100 Blue Bubbles
100 Stalchilderen Swordsmen
15 Ice Keese
15 Fire Keese
10 Freezards
15 Skulltulas
15 Wallmasters
100 Gorons
Big Poe
Skull Keta

Total: 1442


Phase 1:
When my units see the enemy the 5 Bombchus will run to alert me. The 10 Iron Knuckles will keep the enemies busy.

Phase 2:
We will see if we can take them. If we can then my units will line up like this 100 Iron Knuckles then 200 Redeads then 100 Wizrobes. The Iron Knuckles will attack any thing they can while the Redeads scream to stop enemies while the Wizrobes fire Fireballs at the enemies. The 100 Stal Swordsmen will dig under ground and come up behind the enemies and attack. Skull Keeta will attack enemies with his sword. The Wallmaster will catch enemies and drop them in the mountains.

Phase 3:
The 80 Stal Archers will stand where Skull Keeta breaks the bridge (in MM) and shoot enemies down also 80 Wizrobes will shoot the arrows with fire to make them Fire Arrows and attack units. The 100 Gorons will curl up in a ball at the top of the hill and will roll down the hill if they see any enemies. Then they start to punch any enemies. Behind the Gorons will be 70 Stal Archers will then shoot any enemies if the enemy gets close they will use there daggers to try and fight them off.

Phase 4:
While all of this is going on the Fire, Ice, and normal Keeses will attack any flying units.
The 100 Stalchlidren will go under ground with 100 Bombchus and try and get under the enemies the then the Stalchildren will dig away while the Bombchus will exploded.

Phase 5:
The rest of my units will try to escape down the while 50 Bombchus stay at the entrance of the tunnel. If they see enemies coming up they will blow up the entrance of the tunnel to shut it off. If they see my units retreating they will wait to till they get inside the tunnel then explode it.

Notes:
The Stal Archers and Wizrobes will retreat if they lose half there #s.
Skull Keeta will bury himself if the enemys try to capture him.
The Stal Swordsmen and Archers have Mirror Armor.

Rhalen's Modding (becomes official after 24 hours of being posted unless elected mod mods)

Tis another stormy day in Ikana. Rhalen's men had generously offered to take over any patrolling of the canyon gates. Kira accepted. As the armies from the mountain and ocean approached, the gate was lifted to allow easy entry.

A dispatch was sent to the wooden wall of the graveyard. "Surrender now or prepare to be destroyed!" The Iron Knuckles (not being very bright) engage the dispatch while the bombchus take the message to the top of the hill.

Seeing a hostile approach, Rhalen's archers send a volley of fire arrows down. The gate goes up in flames (making anyone who walks through it look very BA). The Admin's Alliance steps through the gate and goes on a full charge. The units back at the graveyard line up and prepare for attack. Skull Keeta is there, but they begin to chain him down. He tries to recede into the ground but it is a futile effort. He is captured and will be taken to a prison on the mountain.

The redeads are shrieking, the knuckles are slashing, but it is all for naught. Thanks to insane outnumbering, Kira's men are decimated. After the small skirmish in the lower section, the AA moves up to the bridge. Here they meet a bit more resistance. Volleys of arrows and fire rain down, gorons stampede down the hill, and a few explosions go off under their feet (with varrying degrees of success). Yet due to severe outnumbering (being the biggest factor of the lot of them, trust me, defensive strat=pretty good)

In the end, the wizrobes and archers run for it. They go through the tunnel where they are blocked for a second by rhalen's men. Knowing they were seen retreating and that it would be odd not having corpses, they play dead. The rest of the units follow, being forced back by Des and Vaati. They end up being crushed by the two forces. Also, a few of those playing dead were trampled to death.

Results:

Attackers
Vaati
Troops
150 Gorons
200 Dinalfos
200 White Wolfos Archers
100 Dodongoes
50 Ice Bats
50 Iron Knuckles

Rhalen
Troops
0 Wolfos
0 Blue Bubbles
300 Gibdos
200 Red Wizrobes
100 Blue Wizrobes
200 Archers
200 Spearmen
200 Swordsmen

Des
Troops:
700 Zora Knights
500 Pirate Guards
500 Elite Guards
500 Pirate Archers
300 Dinolfos
100 Zora Scythmen
50 Wizzrobes
0 Deku Archers
0 Blue Bubbles

Total Losses 1700

Defending:
Troops:
50 Stalchilderen Acrchers
0 Stalchilderen
0 Iron Knuckles
0 Keese
0 Bombchus
0 Redeads
100 Red Wizzrobes
0 Blue Bubbles
0 Stalchilderen Swordsmen
0 Ice Keese
0 Fire Keese
0 Freezards
0 Skulltulas
0 Wallmasters
0 Gorons
0 Big Poe
Skull Keta: Captured

Total Losses:
1291

Notes:
-Desquode, you send in unneeded troops you get unwanted casualties
-The defensive strat was really much better than offensive and as such took a better than 1:1 kill to death ratio
-Not seeing anything about big poe being used, he just kinda died
Count Vaati of the North
Posted: Jul 11 2008, 07:24 PM


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Seems fair to me, and went as I would expect.

I don't like the "playing dead" thing. I would expect that after we have won, we would go around and make sure everyone is dead, and maybe a little coup de grāce going around.

We (at least I) wasn't there to just fight until we meet no resistance and leave. I would expect that I would go to every body that was on the ground and make sure that it was dead. I know we won't want to complicate the wars and all...

It's just a minor thing, and something I would include in an offender strategy in the future.
Kira
Posted: Jul 11 2008, 07:57 PM


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WOW did much more damage than I though.

Attackers:
Came:6,300.
Left:4600.

Vaati:
750 troops alive out of 1400.

Rhalen:
1200 troops alive out of 1400.

Darius:
2350 troops alive out of 3500.

Kira:
150 troops alive out of 1442.

Still did good.Thanks for the complement Rhalen.

BUT what about the 100 Skalchildren underground.
Count Vaati of the North
Posted: Jul 11 2008, 08:00 PM


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He didn't include them for one reason or another.

Also, I believe Darius said that a certain number of troops were going to leave if he didn't surrender. If you read the posts you will see, I just forgot to add that detail into the strategy.
Rhalasslehoffedin
Posted: Jul 11 2008, 08:34 PM


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Member No.: 5
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The underground stalchildren died from too much trampling on the earth causing massive cave ins

Partial retreat not in strat not happen
Lord Darius of the Western Seas
Posted: Jul 11 2008, 09:46 PM


Commander of the WDS-F
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Group: Landwars Officials
Posts: 437
Member No.: 4
Joined: 17-May 07



Rhalen, Vaati, I'm not pleased. Vaati becuase you forgot to mention the retreat of my units if Kira didn't surrender, and Rhalen becuase you kept and killed off units that shouldn't have even been there. I'm posative you saw my post about that, and I'm SURE you knew it was supposed to be there.
Also:
"-Desquode, you send in unneeded troops you get unwanted casualties"
A lot were sent in for intimidation, and therefore not uneeded. Heck, more than half those guys shouldn't have even been there.


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Count Vaati of the North
Posted: Jul 11 2008, 09:54 PM


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This would seem to be a loophole of sorts. Rhalen knew very well that I forgot to mention it, yet continued with it anyway.

Sorry, Darius. I should have made sure that I included everything. But, I think you would've caught it at some point. Huge "my bad" here.
Kira
Posted: Jul 11 2008, 09:55 PM


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So remodded?
Rhalasslehoffedin
Posted: Jul 11 2008, 09:57 PM


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Group: Landwars Champion
Posts: 1,630
Member No.: 5
Joined: 17-May 07



Actually, I'm positive I never saw or completely forgot that post darius. Considering that is not even familiar to me, I'm gonna guess I never saw it.

(and actually if you were sending in only a decent number of troops, the three of us may have lost this war)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attrition_warfare
Kira
Posted: Jul 11 2008, 09:59 PM


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So if Daruis only send oh 1400 units would Admin Allieance have won still?
Rhalasslehoffedin
Posted: Jul 11 2008, 10:05 PM


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hard to say. You would have been fighting an uphill battle still, but you'd have a dang good shot.
Kira
Posted: Jul 11 2008, 11:33 PM


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Posts: 359
Member No.: 31
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AWSESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rhalasslehoffedin
Posted: Jul 11 2008, 11:53 PM


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Group: Landwars Champion
Posts: 1,630
Member No.: 5
Joined: 17-May 07



You have decent caliber as far as strategy writing goes (you just need more units)
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