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pope - August 1, 2004 10:43 PM (GMT)
Does anyone think that double standards for women and people of color are right? An example is the Jason Williams trial. If Jason Williams was white, and The man he shot was Black, the prosecution would have used race. However, since Jason Williams was black, race was never spoken about. Give me your thoughts on this, and later I will post mine.


Anghardel - August 2, 2004 02:16 AM (GMT)
a lot of double standard use in real life is hearsay. They may or may not apply in the case you mentioned, and many other situations. I do think that they exist, and sometimes are necessary, though they are not something I would use to hold an action against a person more so than another on a very regular basis. Let's say I have a daughter, and she wants to go out with a boy. I would feel a little less safe with her doing so than if it was my son going out. This is a double standard, but there are reasons behind this of course, some justifiable and some not.

For a bit of a person view, I don't wish to say if they are good or bad, because, like I stated, it varies depending upon different situations and conditions.

pope - August 2, 2004 03:10 AM (GMT)
What I mean is, with race and gender.

Anghardel - August 2, 2004 03:14 AM (GMT)
racial double standards are different for me. I don't believe race should determine anyone's way of thinking on one as opposed to another person. as for gender, I described my thoughts above with the example

Belnor - August 2, 2004 03:34 AM (GMT)
I believe in our judicial system. It, unlike the other two branches of government is much more representative of the idea of civil government. However, I do not fully understand your question. It seems a bit cryptic. Perhaps we are talking about race and the judicial system, and not about double standards?

If you can please rephrase your question briefly, I might be in a better position to give an answer, or view.

As far as double standards is concerened, I think that there are certain reasons, and/or deterministic factors that are beyond your control. So, yes, in varying degrees there can be cases where exhibiting double standards in judgment is an acceptable alternative. Sometimes it is better to choose the lesser of two evils. Sometimes it is possible to tell a 'beautiful lie', and be moral at the same time in order to quell the masses for the sake of maintaining structural integrity. Without structure, especially that of government and law a civil society will be impossible. We would then be living in the state of nature, where it is man against man. Check out Thomas Hobbes', "Leviathan", and Plato's, "The Republic".

These are necessary to better understand how the world, conflcit and its imminent resolution work out. These things happen in cycles, and are dialectic in nature. Political thought is a truly wonderous thing to explore, that is if you want a well grounded understanding of how civil government and societies work, and why the natural progression from the state of nature to civil government is a normative process.

Belnor.

Hegemon - August 2, 2004 04:49 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (pope @ Aug 1 2004, 10:43 PM)
Does anyone think that double standards for women and people of color are right? An example is the Jason Williams trial. If Jason Williams was white, and The man he shot was Black, the prosecution would have used race. However, since Jason Williams was black, race was never spoken about. Give me your thoughts on this, and later I will post mine.

I'm a girl, but double standards don't apply to me, cause I've got two rulers :rolleyes:

Maybe I used to care about whether or not I fit up to other people's standards, but I'm finally at that age where I just don't care. These things have little control over my life.

But in that Jason Williams trial you talked about, that's where it just stinks, cause that poor guy couldn't just say 'I don't care' cause those white guys had control over his life. And that's not fair :unsure:




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