1.000 Points Againt Quite Different Enemies!, Fighting Bretonnia, HE, Dwarfs and Ogres

[etos]

Hi everyone!
So; four of my friends and I are gathering for a private Tournament and I need a line up which can work on all. I find that tricky so I could really need some help

Facing: Bretonnia, Ogre Kingdom, Dwarfs, High Elves

Here is what I had in mind so far -but I'm very open to surgestions...

1 liche priest, hierophant, cloak of dunes
1 liche priest, naked

1 tomb prince, great weapon, light amour, shield
in a unit of:
10 tomb guards, carring the Banner of the Undying Legion

4 chariots, with standard
1 Tomb Scorpion

1 Screaming Skull Catapult

10 archer warriors
1 Tomb Swarm

995 pt.

Hope to hear from you
-Etos

[Aleksandrus]

Im a big fan against Flail of Skulls and prince in chariot vs all those armies at this point level.

Double wounding is huge vs orgres.
Flail helps destroy the brets/dwarves armor saves.
Chariots in general are good vs high elves.

My main issue with the list though is the single tomb swarm. I can't see what it's there for.

[etos]

Hi Aleksandrus
Thanx for the tip. I too like that bad ass flail but its pricey, my friend. Its tempting to put the prince in a chariot, though. But wont the so called elite guard unit lose its hammer power? And where can I get the ekstra about 90 pt.? Guess one could lose one chariot, but I still need about 50 pt. The Tomb Swarm is a core unit and I need that one because the rules says so . It was the least pricey core unit and maybe the ICFB can be usefull against dwarfs gunline. In the other battles I may use it in front of the SSC.

Maybe I should let the TP ride a chariot (+45) and leave one chariot (-40). That will make it even 1.000 pt.

-Etos

[etos]

ok, I had try outs with my friend and the TG unit didn't even get into fight. I have also read the Plasmapuff tactics and maybe the skeletons are a better choice. This would leave a special choice unit -I'm thinking carrions x 3. This is a modified roster.

-Liche Priest, CoD (hiero.)
-Liche Priest
-TP, LA, Sh, GW in a unit of:

-10 warriors, LA, Sh, Spears, Stand.
-10 archer unit

-3 Carrions
-1 TS
-4 Chariots, Stand., BoUL

SSC

Questions:
-should I put the TP in a chariot or on foot in warrior unit?
-is the warrior unit to small (not easy to out number, but cant find where to trimm points)

I'm not sure which one to pick so advices would be very nice . Thank you.

-Etos

[skerbgs]

Plasmapuffs articles are massively out-of-date. Tomb Guard a generally considered a good choice these days, however they are a bit pricey for a 1000 point list.

Spears on skeletons aren't really a great option... they're more expensive, have a lower armour save and usually wont kill much (if anything) even with the extra attacking rank. Also 10 skeletons will be wiped out pretty fast. You're better off turning the warriors into archers or increasing the unit to about 20 models (and dropping the spears).

[Aleksandrus]

Another problem is that the unit of 10 warriors with spears has a standard, easy victory points for your opponent. I agree with skerbgs that they should just be normal archers.

[frag]

I kind of agree with the TP on chariot for 1000pts.

You will definitly not be able to outnumber nothing at 1000pts. Your obligation to have TP/LP prevents that.
Personaly, i would seek out the most powerhouse unit formation i could. And cut out the fat like said (command, lances)
In your situation, and seeing the armies he will face, i would fear that the elf player takes a shooting army.

[etos]

Thanks a lot, guys -your tips really help (maybe I wont get creamed this time) heheh

So, I'm displacing the warrior unit with archer x 10 AND killing a chariot, giving the TP his own wheels and pimping it with Chariot of Fire. I'm thinking of giving the TP a flail as well.

Wish me luck on the 30 oct. ...

-Etos

[Flogger]

Chariot of Fire in a unit of 3 chariots is truly awesome at 1000p, good luck with it!

[etos]

Hi everyone.
Thanks for all the great advises. On the paper I think it was a ok army. I think I owe you some feedback on how it went -but I gotta warn you: it didn't went well...

Battle number one
I played againt HE. He had a bolt thrower, unit of spearmen with wizard, an eagle, 2 x unit a dragon princes and sword masters (as I recall). Started ok. I got the first turn and advanced with my chariot regiment with prince, CoF, BoUL and hierophant lurking in the back. Also I got the charge on his bolt thrower and killed it in the first turn -great! I killed one dragon prince regiment with my chariot regiment and the SSC killed most of the other (but not all) -it ran but then gathered and charged my chariot regiment in the flank later. At that time he had two DP and annihilated the bunch. I wasn't focused and his Wiz shot my hierophant . He moved his sword masters over the ICFB marker and ASF finished my scorpion as it rose. I think I had good chances but stupidity and bad luck resulted in the loosing masacre style.

Here are som pics:



Battle number two
I played against OK. That truely sucked. He had two butchers, bulls and a bruiser + some gnobblers. I couldn't get any magic through and he kept on boosting his regiments making them fx. strenth 7 and other nasty upgrades. I had deployed my chariot regiment too far away (being a chicken) and i scattered my shots from the SSC. My scorpion was unlucky and didn't do anything. By the time it was over I had killed one ogre...

Pics:



Battle number three:
Against dwarfs. He had organ gun, canon, two bolt thrower (?), ingeneers, quarrellers and another regiment of shooters and some miners. Got the first round and went in cover with my chariot unit. My carrions had a crappy charge on the organ gun and it had to charge the regiment of quarrellers too, crew and Q: stand and shoot... Shot and scattered with my SSC. He then shot a canon ball through my skellies and killed my hierophant in his first turn plus the other liche priest by killing the warrior bowmen in front first and then moving on for desert (LP). My scorpion came up in round three and with my regiment of chariots it killed all of his war machines (except one hidden in the two inches of a forrest -bad for chariots) and the quarrellers. I lost by solid victory in the end.

Battle number four:
This fight wasn't against the Brets as I thought but against the Warriors of Chaos. He had two units of Chaos Knights and other irrelevant units (those two units were enough to totally destroy my army) fx. some war hounds, a wizard on a flying disc, two units of axe throwing marouders. He got the first turn and advanced with all his cavalery. I scattered, flew behind him with my carrions and charged with my chariot regiment: got an awfull one-eye on my CoF impact and chaos amour is hard core. My regiment of chariots died and the fight was basically over. I killed a few maruoders before the knights masacred the rest.

Thats it: three masacre loses and one defeat by solid victory.
The winner was Dwarfs, then WoC, HE, OK and then little me (got to be the freaking worst player of all TK -hehe...) .

Better luck next time

-Etos