2400 Point Tourny Prep

I'm glad someone else feels that way.

It's not that I am personally offended by it (there's really almost nothing in life that actually does offend me), but it does seem...discourteous...to those who may have a personal reason to hate the term, and those people should not have to read it in their leisure hobby forum visits.

Then again, this commentary is likely to be ridiculed just as it was on The Warhammer Forum when I said something similar over there.

Ah, the anonymous internet.

Anyway, back to our regularly scheduled program....



Dwarfs suck.
With the previous TK book, they were my easiest matchup. They are now among my hardest. They defeat everything we stand upon. Magic is pointless, Ld attacks are ineffective. Combat vs them is pointless. Constructs (my only path to something that resembles success) are free VPs.

What about more TG?

Well sorry for offending people. Was not my intention, just my sense of humor. Anyways, I have two games lined up. I am going to give my stalkers another go, even though its against WoC. Lets see how this works out.

2400 Revision number two

Liche High Priest
Level 4, Steed, Scroll (245)

Tomb Prince
Aod, GW (154)

Necrotect
Iron Curse Icon (65)

11 Horseman
Light armor
Banner (164)

4 Chariots
Banner, Bouf (240)

4 Chariots
Banner (230)

Sphinx
Roar (230)

3 Stalkers (165)

3 Stalkers (165)

40 Tomb Guard
Full command, Halberds (600)
Boul

Cos

Tomb guard win me games. I finally see why people say 27 is too small. Yes they eat whoever first tie around, but often at a loss that they cannot recover. It hurts dropping a kitty, to be honest first list ever without two. Lets see how it goes. I beleive I can handle almost any type of threat with this list. Yet it does have its flaws. Still lacks numbers. Only one caster. Oh yea and im playing Tomb Kings. Comments please!! Thanks

Take a read through the link I put up for more information. There's a reason that sense of humor is...well, it's generally unacceptable .

Odd...my experiences take a complete 180. I usually get magic through, and LD attacks work sometimes, but especially with D&D up. Constructs obliterate them, but usually don't stand in combat unless it's a warmachine crew.

I like the second list a little more than the first. Can't wait for the results.

I'm glad someone else feels that way.

It's not that I am personally offended by it (there's really almost nothing in life that actually does offend me), but it does seem...discourteous...to those who may have a personal reason to hate the term, and those people should not have to read it in their leisure hobby forum visits.

Then again, this commentary is likely to be ridiculed just as it was on The Warhammer Forum when I said something similar over there.

Ah, the anonymous internet.

Interestingly, there was a discussion about this on one of Humon's DA images a bit ago that I just saw.

The way I see it, "Rape" is coming more and more to mean a simple "Dominate" or "Control", without any sexual connotations. The act of Rape as a sexual assault is, indeed, cringeworthy, but that is not the word's only meaning, and is more and more becoming a secondary meaning to what were once themselves the secondary meanings, or is gaining those meanings from the use of the words and the connotations of the prior meaning. More often than not, if you replaced "Rape" with "Dominate" on the internet, you'll get a sentence that is less 'offensive', but means the exact same thing as what the writer originally meant.

It's just that "Dominate" is too long a word for most people to write out.

=> Fer sher. Totally get that. Words have lots of meanings.

Dunno if what I am about to say is a good thing or a bad thing, but it's a thing:

Regardless of what we might know to be true about a word, it's not really about us. The point is what it might mean to others*. To anyone who has been a victim of rape, coming to an internet hobby forum and reading the word can trigger lots of feelings they should not have to face in such a place. They were not expecting it there and should not have to deal with it there.

Heck, even the other meaning, of "dominate" carries a connotation that is uncomfortably close to what is so awful about the sexual meaning.

It's really just a word best used among people you know or by professional comedians whose audiences know they are likely to say anything.


Anyway, that's all I have to say about that.




* Obviously we can't do this for every word. I mean, really, we can't worry about people who have lost eyes in freak pencil accidents and thus not talk about pencils, but rape is, unfortunately, not all that uncommon, so it makes the short list of terms that should probably be left off forums out of concern for others' emotional responses.

I personally have no problem with the word being used in these circumstances, and understand full well it's usage in a gaming environment (wargames, videogames, etc.). But like Sleb said, it's best used within your own personal circle were you know it won't shock anyone.

On public forums though, there's a lot of strangers around reading what you write, and many could see the word in a totally different sense (and in the case of "rape", it's not a very amusing one to say the least). So if some people raise concern about it's usage, then I hope people will try to restrain themself in it's usage.

Battle log or Dr phil show? Sorry it offended people. Done. Wont happen again. On wards. On wpth the list. I am pretty happy with it so far. Idk his list but he mentioned valkia? Will be there

Good news another massacre! Bad news i forgot to take notes. However tommorow i will post the lists and high lights!

Sounds like you dominated!

Patiently waiting for the notes.

I can not believe. I jusr seriously spnet 2 hours writing a rpeort. Submitted it. Now its not showing????? wtfff like i cant fircken beleive it. F@@@@@@$#$%#$%#$%#$%#$%%$#%$%#%$#$%%$#

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It asked for username and password again, i typed it in, then send me to a blank post............ Well I need to sleep before i break ######. Post tommorow

Not that this will help you this time, but I always copy+paste my longer posts into a Notepad doc before hitting submit just exactly for this reason.

It's also another reason I do my reports in little chunks and post as I go then edit.

+1 to this.

Yea good advice. I cried. Tonite il reattempt writing then post my pregame toughts for the dwarf rematch!

Since my report failed, heres a fast summary

I dropped two tomb guard, and added mr2 to my tect

His List

All MoK, frenzied

Lvl 2

Exhalted hero

Bsb

Valkia

2x 20ish xhw warriors

2 hell cannons

2x 5 maruader horsies with armor

Warshrine

Sorry this is brief, just unmotivated

T1 Highlights

One hell cannon blows up due to misfire. Other kills 10 tg or so. I heal tg back to full with magic and boul

T2 Maruaders charge shpinx and get IF flaming sword which brings kitty to one wound ><Second hellcannon misfires. Strenght ten under blast, cannot fire rest of game. I lose about 12 tomb guard. I heal back up, cos does 2 wounds on hell cannon

T3 Other maruaders make 20in charge on chariots on my left flank ><. More healing for me. Finally one stalkers come in and kill the remaining hell cannon. kitty wins combat

T4. Kills my chariots faces long charge to my hiero Fails charge my kitty. So tg return and charge him. -1 str and -t on warriors vs my tomg guard. I kill al but front rank, I over run into warshirne and kill it, tomb guard reform to face flank of other warriors

t5. Make long charge at hiero, kills him and almost all of the bunker. I kill warshrine. He kills kitty and has to over run. So my tomb guard rand chariots charge last warriors squad with valkia and run them down.

Game

Yes it is hard to follow. Just too lazy and I am sorry. Key point in match besides him losing hell cannons was me taking advantage of frenzie and redirecting with my wounded warsphinx to set up charge on my turn. His list was fluffy, but still very hard. Tnhings would of been differant if he didnt use lore of fire. If it is confusing, like I said I am sorry and if you spent time reading I thank you! My other rpeorts will be more organized and easier to read. Questions? Comments? My new list soon to come as well as a pregame for my dwarf rematch!

Also a unit analysis! And why things are in the list, and how I use them!

Question - what was the VP on this game?

He lost everything. I lost my hiero, the bunker, and a chariot squad. Sorry again for no real write up. He knew the tomb guard would hurt so initally he was not too aggressive on movement. However his hell cannons failed him. Add in my healing he soon realized he had to come. He played it right but i played it better. Positioning, abusing frenzie, and choosing tje right match ups saved me. Forst thing was to remove the hell cannons. Next was to make sure my tomb giard stay at least 30 strong and make sure theu do not get combo charged. They can easily handle one squad of warriors even without the hex. My mistakes were thinking he couldnt make 19a to 20 inch charge. Ouchy. Any more questions? Pre game thoughts vs dwarves soon same as my new list and unit analysis! Thanks

Ok heres my list for game three on this journey

Liche High Priest
Level 4, Steed, Scroll (245)

Tomb Prince
Aod, GW (154)

Necrotect
Iron Curse Icon (95)
MR2 item

11 Horseman
Light armor
Banner (164)

4 Chariots
Banner, Bouf (240)

4 Chariots
Banner (230)

Sphinx
Roar (230)

3 Stalkers (165)

3 Stalkers (165)

38 Tomb Guard
Full command, Halberds (576)
Boul

Cos

Idk what is changing on his list, but i do know the anvil will be dropped. His army will really test the survivabilty of my tomb guard.

Unit evaulations so far. (Experiences from doing the battle log and prior experiences)

Tomb Prince: He does well. Always deals so damage. Most importantly he lives. With a 5up by 4 up ward, and toughness 5 to boot, hes fine. Overall B+ for kiling, surviving, buffing ws

Necrotect: Love him. He is always a very useful utility to have. Whether its the regen, hatred, or the items he carries. He brings the iron curse icon, and the MR2 item. Huge. Often he is outside of combat, so I do not have to worry about him dieing. However he does from time to time. And thats ok. Overall B for hatred, and the added protection

Liche: No brainer here. Even more effective on horseback. With a movement of 7, and most spells 12 inmch range, effectivly he can cover anything within a minimum of 19 inches. Overall B: I do need a secondary caster, but the banner of undying legion makes up for my lack of spells.

Chariots: Love them. Great core choice, but as you can see in my battles, I tend to screw up with them often. Being more selctive on my charges and waiting for flanks or combo charges really increses their efficientcy. Overall B-, would be higher if I learn to use them better

Horsemen bunker: I need them, so not much room for agruement. I do love the models, I just like calvary in general. They are fast for our army, and have good saves as well. Overall C but I need them

Warsphinx: I love my kitties. It is very hard not running two. I feel in most games I can at least get one into combat. With only one, hes going to get picked on. I did need the extra points. So far, so good without him. Overall A-, for extreme killing power, cool model, and the pyshcological factor.

Tomb guard: Need I say more. IMHO a very underestimated deathstar if run correctly. With the 6 up ward for war machines, mr2 from spells, toughness 4, banner of undying legion, ws 5, hatred, plus other spell buffs. well... um yea.. they mess things up. And they can take a beating. Overall A++++ amazing. Have not met a combat that they cant win. Most important thing is to keep the squads numbers strong. Just wow

Stalkers: I love them. Even better with two squads. They show up, they dont, they die, they kill. Unrelaible? Yes. Less unreliable with two squads? Yes. Its a gamble, but the chances of bad things happening is not too bad. And when they do come, they change games. Regardless of opponents initiaive. I had one squad come down and gaze at chaos knights. Killed 5. Worth it! Oh and all magical helps me too! Overall B, lower score because they do make me mad sometimes

Casket: I love it. We all do. Overall A+

Iron curse icon: For the cost of a spear skelly, what a good deal. Make one 6 up on my tomb guard, almost tripled my points back. In my game vs WoC, I made 5 six ups! 65 points of models for 5? You bet

MR2: Meh, havent used it yet. But I had points to spare. Will be helpful against some armies. I am aware of the really high damage spells ignores MR2, but having a 5up ward will allow me to let some magic missiles go through more often as I can save them

Banner of undying Legion: Expensive? Yes. Useful? In my situation yes. If I had another caster, we will say a level two, maybe the banner would no tbe good. But with only 4 spells, one bound from the casket, i have room for another bound. Healed over 22 models in my WoC game! I always save it for last. No, I do not always use it, but it really does heal up my tomb guard fast. often early in games I throw pointless spells on my tomb guard just to heal, which my opponent allows, but I feel its a waste of dice. Now, I can save my dice for other spells and this one if need be.

Anyone see any problems with my list? I wanna get in a few more games before finalizing my list. However, it will be very similiar to this one. Battle report tommorow! Thanks for reading and commenting

Game over. Minor lost! Great game. Report tommorow