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| big16joe |
Posted: Jul 7 2012, 06:52 PM
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Skeleton Horseman ![]() Group: Nehekharan Posts: 160 Member No.: 3,107 Joined: 12-July 10 |
Has anyone tried running a tomb king with a wizard hat sure makes a tomb king expensive but, could this work? Bring a heirotitan and now u can cast better. I didnt know if a heirotitan would but further reading yes it would. It says in the brb that a wizarding hat makes the bearer a level 2 wizard. The rules on the heirotitan says buffs any nek undead wizard. Since tomb king is nek undead and now a wizard he gets the bonus to. Sure the lore is random but if you can't afford a lvl 2 and want a tomb king in tomb guard this could be a fun random way to run him.
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| Adramelech |
Posted: Jul 7 2012, 10:09 PM
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![]() A bug in the Swarm ![]() Group: Nehekharan Posts: 23 Member No.: 5,200 Joined: 16-May 12 |
I think it has merits, but 9 times out of 10 I think I would rather have a level 2 Liche Priest for 5 more points than the item for the ability to choose the lore I want, not risk my tomb king (and the unit he's with) with miscasts, and to free up the magic allowance on my tomb king.
If you could choose your lore it might be a different story though (lore of shadow I'm looking at you), but Nek, Death, and Light have all the spells I could want really. |
| forgottenlor |
Posted: Jul 8 2012, 12:32 AM
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![]() Necropolis Guard ![]() Group: Faithful Posts: 630 Member No.: 900 Joined: 27-October 05 |
I've got to admit it's too expensive for me. It might be nice in a non-competitive game to try out for fun. I think the wizard hat just has too many drawbacks. If it had a random lore OR stupidity it would be worth the cost.
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| Krael |
Posted: Jul 8 2012, 07:09 AM
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![]() Khemrian engineer ![]() Group: Faithful Posts: 2,183 Member No.: 3,235 Joined: 10-December 10 |
I'm fielding the followig magic roster today:
lvl4 nehek king with hat lvl1 death (wich will leech on the kings LD) titan casket just for fun. I've long been wanting to try it out. I'll let you know how it went. -------------------- Ceterum censeo quod chaos-nani non realis libri!
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| Vallah |
Posted: Jul 8 2012, 09:41 AM
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![]() Cunning Linguist ![]() Group: Faithful Posts: 1,271 Member No.: 2,955 Joined: 11-July 09 |
It saw quite a lot of play during the dark days between 8th ed coming out and the arrival of our new army book. Back then our royals were strictly better than the sub optimal liches thanks to the old MWBD rule, but now that we have a 'standard' 8th ed magic system things are basically the other way around and you end up with all the weaknesses and few (if any) of the benefits.
On the plus side you usually get access to a spell that TKs don't normally get -and if you get lucky (and are opportunist enought to find ways to abuse it), this can be huge. Because it's random though, you also run the risk of getting something utterly worthless. The main downside of the hat is the fact that you will end up with a king that really can't pull his weight in toe to toe combat because the points you would normally spend on beefing him up are devoted to the hat. Given the new MWBD rule, this is obviously a problem. Ultimately, the 'dunce cap' is a sub optimal choice all round, but it *is* good fun. -------------------- Roses are red,
Violets are blue, I have Alzheimers, Cheese on toast. Legions of Ankhira Nefherer army plog |
| Krael |
Posted: Jul 8 2012, 11:57 AM
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![]() Khemrian engineer ![]() Group: Faithful Posts: 2,183 Member No.: 3,235 Joined: 10-December 10 |
I never buy stuf for my royals anyway, save for the occasional glittering scales. he's stil t5 w4. just buy sword and board for him for max chances of survival in cc...
-------------------- Ceterum censeo quod chaos-nani non realis libri!
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| big16joe |
Posted: Jul 10 2012, 11:41 AM
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Skeleton Horseman ![]() Group: Nehekharan Posts: 160 Member No.: 3,107 Joined: 12-July 10 |
Most of the time I actually dont care if they kill my king because the curse usually kills who killed me. It has a couple times when an elite hero or lord attacks him them Im like now he dies now your cursed. Alot of people will not attack my king they will just hit the unit because they are easier to kill and fear the curse killing someone important to them. I always usually kit my king gw/shield (yea I know shield dont help in cc but for shooting)
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| Sleboda |
Posted: Jul 10 2012, 12:21 PM
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Awesome Tomb Lord ![]() Group: Faithful Posts: 4,042 Member No.: 3,424 Joined: 5-April 11 |
I have no idea why any important model would fear the curse now. It took a major hit coming into this book.
-------------------- True scholars have more than just one book to study.
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| Prince of Arnheim |
Posted: Jul 10 2012, 07:10 PM
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Skeleton Horseman ![]() Group: Nehekharan Posts: 134 Member No.: 3,548 Joined: 14-April 11 |
I would only consider it if I could choose my Tomb King with Dunce Cap to be the Hierophant as well. But then both my general and key character would die for sure. Nah don't like the idea.
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| Myriad |
Posted: Jul 11 2012, 10:55 AM
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Skeleton Horseman ![]() Group: Nehekharan Posts: 190 Member No.: 5,056 Joined: 11-April 12 |
Well, it'd be interesting. It's hard to plan for his role when even the lore is random though, so certainly only something I'd try in a less serious game.
It would also mean I couldn't get my tomb king any protection, which means not even heavy armour. With T5 & W4 not going as far as it used to, this would certainly annoy me. |
| oldWitheredCorpse |
Posted: Jul 11 2012, 11:20 AM
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Herald of Mathhammer ![]() Group: Faithful Posts: 1,225 Member No.: 1,536 Joined: 8-February 07 |
Who would fail a leadership test with an important model or character in 8th ed? With re-rolls on everything, the previous version of the Curse was certainly weaker. |
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| big16joe |
Posted: Jul 11 2012, 12:37 PM
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Skeleton Horseman ![]() Group: Nehekharan Posts: 160 Member No.: 3,107 Joined: 12-July 10 |
The curse before had a chance of never happening which sucked now it always happens sure its random on the number of hits but if you get better then average on the curse could kill things. It has killed other lords in a challenge before. Most people dont even care about characters cause they are usully harder to kill then the unit... I think it comes down to the fact he is a lord and Tomb King so sounds scary and tend to avoid him. If he dies oh well but I dont think he will be in combat in the first 2 turns maybe turn 3.
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| Sleboda |
Posted: Jul 11 2012, 12:37 PM
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Awesome Tomb Lord ![]() Group: Faithful Posts: 4,042 Member No.: 3,424 Joined: 5-April 11 |
True, but then again, I didn't play the old book in the new edition.
In 6th and 7th, with the previous book, the Curse was weak, yes, but way better than 8th with the current book. -------------------- True scholars have more than just one book to study.
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| Jimmy |
Posted: Jul 11 2012, 07:32 PM
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![]() The Eclipse King ![]() Group: Faithful Posts: 2,796 Member No.: 727 Joined: 29-June 05 |
Krael - certainly looking forward to how you go, some games it could be awesome but it all comes down to what lore you randomly come up with.
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| Pottsy |
Posted: Jul 11 2012, 08:20 PM
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Skeleton Charioteer ![]() Group: Faithful Posts: 257 Member No.: 4,022 Joined: 24-May 11 |
I don't think anyone could argue that it would make a competitive choice.'
But fun? Could get some good fun out of it. Should model up a nice big silly hat for the game. |
| Jimmy |
Posted: Jul 11 2012, 10:05 PM
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![]() The Eclipse King ![]() Group: Faithful Posts: 2,796 Member No.: 727 Joined: 29-June 05 |
Big hat for you or the Tomb King??
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| Vallah |
Posted: Jul 11 2012, 10:07 PM
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![]() Cunning Linguist ![]() Group: Faithful Posts: 1,271 Member No.: 2,955 Joined: 11-July 09 |
I vote for a sombrero! -------------------- Roses are red,
Violets are blue, I have Alzheimers, Cheese on toast. Legions of Ankhira Nefherer army plog |
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| teclis |
Posted: Jul 12 2012, 01:54 AM
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![]() Sphinx Captain ![]() Group: Faithful Posts: 921 Member No.: 2,021 Joined: 8-December 07 |
+1 Although I would like to see a TK with a wizard hat 'a la gandalf the grey' -------------------- ![]() Tomb King 8th record Played 74 Won 35 Drawn 14 Lost 25 Join Khemri on Facebook. Lots of cool artwork, TK models and terrain pics. |
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| Pottsy |
Posted: Jul 12 2012, 02:09 AM
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Skeleton Charioteer ![]() Group: Faithful Posts: 257 Member No.: 4,022 Joined: 24-May 11 |
Both. Almost an obligation! |
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