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 Tomb King With Wizard Hat?
big16joe
Posted: Jul 7 2012, 06:52 PM


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Has anyone tried running a tomb king with a wizard hat sure makes a tomb king expensive but, could this work? Bring a heirotitan and now u can cast better. I didnt know if a heirotitan would but further reading yes it would. It says in the brb that a wizarding hat makes the bearer a level 2 wizard. The rules on the heirotitan says buffs any nek undead wizard. Since tomb king is nek undead and now a wizard he gets the bonus to. Sure the lore is random but if you can't afford a lvl 2 and want a tomb king in tomb guard this could be a fun random way to run him.
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Adramelech
Posted: Jul 7 2012, 10:09 PM


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I think it has merits, but 9 times out of 10 I think I would rather have a level 2 Liche Priest for 5 more points than the item for the ability to choose the lore I want, not risk my tomb king (and the unit he's with) with miscasts, and to free up the magic allowance on my tomb king.

If you could choose your lore it might be a different story though (lore of shadow I'm looking at you), but Nek, Death, and Light have all the spells I could want really.

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forgottenlor
Posted: Jul 8 2012, 12:32 AM


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I've got to admit it's too expensive for me. It might be nice in a non-competitive game to try out for fun. I think the wizard hat just has too many drawbacks. If it had a random lore OR stupidity it would be worth the cost.
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Krael
Posted: Jul 8 2012, 07:09 AM


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I'm fielding the followig magic roster today:

lvl4 nehek
king with hat
lvl1 death (wich will leech on the kings LD)
titan
casket

just for fun. I've long been wanting to try it out.
I'll let you know how it went.


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Vallah
Posted: Jul 8 2012, 09:41 AM


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It saw quite a lot of play during the dark days between 8th ed coming out and the arrival of our new army book. Back then our royals were strictly better than the sub optimal liches thanks to the old MWBD rule, but now that we have a 'standard' 8th ed magic system things are basically the other way around and you end up with all the weaknesses and few (if any) of the benefits.

On the plus side you usually get access to a spell that TKs don't normally get -and if you get lucky (and are opportunist enought to find ways to abuse it), this can be huge. Because it's random though, you also run the risk of getting something utterly worthless.

The main downside of the hat is the fact that you will end up with a king that really can't pull his weight in toe to toe combat because the points you would normally spend on beefing him up are devoted to the hat. Given the new MWBD rule, this is obviously a problem.

Ultimately, the 'dunce cap' is a sub optimal choice all round, but it *is* good fun. smile.gif


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Krael
Posted: Jul 8 2012, 11:57 AM


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I never buy stuf for my royals anyway, save for the occasional glittering scales. he's stil t5 w4. just buy sword and board for him for max chances of survival in cc...


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big16joe
Posted: Jul 10 2012, 11:41 AM


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Most of the time I actually dont care if they kill my king because the curse usually kills who killed me. It has a couple times when an elite hero or lord attacks him them Im like now he dies now your cursed. Alot of people will not attack my king they will just hit the unit because they are easier to kill and fear the curse killing someone important to them. I always usually kit my king gw/shield (yea I know shield dont help in cc but for shooting)
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Sleboda
Posted: Jul 10 2012, 12:21 PM


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I have no idea why any important model would fear the curse now. It took a major hit coming into this book.


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Prince of Arnheim
Posted: Jul 10 2012, 07:10 PM


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I would only consider it if I could choose my Tomb King with Dunce Cap to be the Hierophant as well. But then both my general and key character would die for sure. Nah don't like the idea.



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Myriad
Posted: Jul 11 2012, 10:55 AM


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Well, it'd be interesting. It's hard to plan for his role when even the lore is random though, so certainly only something I'd try in a less serious game.

It would also mean I couldn't get my tomb king any protection, which means not even heavy armour. With T5 & W4 not going as far as it used to, this would certainly annoy me.
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oldWitheredCorpse
Posted: Jul 11 2012, 11:20 AM


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QUOTE (Sleboda @ Jul 10 2012, 05:21 PM)
I have no idea why any important model would fear the curse now. It took a major hit coming into this book.

Who would fail a leadership test with an important model or character in 8th ed? With re-rolls on everything, the previous version of the Curse was certainly weaker.
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big16joe
Posted: Jul 11 2012, 12:37 PM


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The curse before had a chance of never happening which sucked now it always happens sure its random on the number of hits but if you get better then average on the curse could kill things. It has killed other lords in a challenge before. Most people dont even care about characters cause they are usully harder to kill then the unit... I think it comes down to the fact he is a lord and Tomb King so sounds scary and tend to avoid him. If he dies oh well but I dont think he will be in combat in the first 2 turns maybe turn 3.
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Sleboda
Posted: Jul 11 2012, 12:37 PM


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True, but then again, I didn't play the old book in the new edition.

In 6th and 7th, with the previous book, the Curse was weak, yes, but way better than 8th with the current book.


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Jimmy
Posted: Jul 11 2012, 07:32 PM


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Krael - certainly looking forward to how you go, some games it could be awesome but it all comes down to what lore you randomly come up with.


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Pottsy
Posted: Jul 11 2012, 08:20 PM


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I don't think anyone could argue that it would make a competitive choice.'

But fun? Could get some good fun out of it.

Should model up a nice big silly hat for the game.
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Jimmy
Posted: Jul 11 2012, 10:05 PM


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Big hat for you or the Tomb King?? wink.gif


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Vallah
Posted: Jul 11 2012, 10:07 PM


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QUOTE (Pottsy @ Jul 12 2012, 01:20 AM)
Should model up a nice big silly hat for the game.

I vote for a sombrero! biggrin.gif


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teclis
Posted: Jul 12 2012, 01:54 AM


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QUOTE (Vallah @ Jul 12 2012, 04:07 AM)
QUOTE (Pottsy @ Jul 12 2012, 01:20 AM)
Should model up a nice big silly hat for the game.

I vote for a sombrero! biggrin.gif

+1

Although I would like to see a TK with a wizard hat 'a la gandalf the grey'


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Pottsy
Posted: Jul 12 2012, 02:09 AM


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QUOTE (Jimmy @ Jul 12 2012, 03:05 AM)
Big hat for you or the Tomb King?? wink.gif

Both. Almost an obligation!
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