What Against He, really HIGH magic

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how can i defeat whit 1 of the a HE list whit teclis and 2 other mages?

elves are t3

our bows s2

our lords s7

our heros s6

our tunnelers s5

our giants can go as high as s8

i think you get it

(just crush him with high strenght)

Just DON'T crush him with high strength. S5 is enough to wound on 2's, so maximize your S5 attacks. Why pay for S8 when S5 gets the job done too?

Bow's aren't S2, they are S3. And ours hit always on 5s, that means lots of dead elfs.

TK with flail of skulls, collar of shapesh, brooch and light armour all for 268pts. That can kill even the really high armoured heroes, dragons, etc.

Against High Elves Magic i would suggest using 1 or 2 SSC (or casket) with 2-3 Scorpions, TK can outfire HE, simply try to be out of range the first turn --> deploying on your edge of the bord, this way he has to move his army towards you since all his spells are 24" (high magic), turn 2 you kill his warmachines with scrops (if they surface turn2 that is), just play a very shooty magic list and he will falter, When our magic phase is at its peak even HE cannot shut it down, hinder it alot yes, shutting down no.

Aslo Teclis is alot of points, sided with 2 mages there wont be much place for many units.

You could also try the fast cavalry/chariots list, but against high elves this could be tricky.

All elves hate our chariots. Fast cav chariots, run down elves. As for tough peeps on dragons. King with golden ankrha and blade of setep. That will make quick work of the elf, and work over the dragon rather well.

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Where does one get that bows are S2? Our bows are S3.

A ton of magic is rough, as is a ton of dispel. What you have to do against HE is try and kill the mages.

You are going to have to accept casualties, particuarly among chariot units. Hope that he tries to move forward. You HAVE to move forward, you can't afford to play the counterpunching game.

Against teclis and two mages?

Two mages naked plus Teclis is 820pts.
That is more than 40% of a 2000pt army.
I'll assume you are playing 2000pts.

First of all, you NEED to take out his magic dominance.

Okay, so Teclis is shooting spells at unlimited range. With that much high elf magic, you need to rely on basic troops (grimace), plain stats, and not magic items. Otherwise you'll be sucking down ulimited range "Vauls unmaking" on all your characters.

I'll assume he's using level 1 mages, mainly to max out his dispel dice, rather than level 2 mages. That would kick it up to 890pts on three characters.

I'll assume that he's using 2xdispel scrolls on one hero, and probably an annulian crystal on the other to counter your magic.

That gives him 2 base + 2 Teclis + 1 mage + 1 mage + 1 crystal = 7 dispel dice.
Now a LHP with Fererra's plaques is worth about 6 or 7 dice on it's own.

Unfortunately, dispelling fortune is fickle and flames of the phoenix is next to impossible in your turn, because you only have 1 power dice to use. Take Enkhil's kanopei and pull it out as a surprise one round to break his RIP spells. If he takes some of his lower mages with a different school this may be critical!

Take a LHP with plaques plus at least one other priest. Take at least two dispel scrolls, possibly even more.

with no lord level mages, at least they can't take the book of hoeth, so you should get quite a few chances to dispel.

Now don't bother taking magical weapons/armour, because they will be unmade before you get into combat. Take banner of the Undying legion, and if you take two LPs, then the ravening staff is awesome against elves.

A LHP with 2xdispel, cloak of dunes & Ferrara's
A LP with Ravening
A LP with Enkhil's Kanopi + Dispel scroll

costs you 665pts (only slightly more than Teclis) and allows you to take out three spells, and flush out around 11 - 12 dice worth of 'native' dispelling, excluding scrolls.

For your tomb prince, a great weapon is a good choice.
But with this much invested in magic on his side, it is really

1200(including prince) vs 1180 to 1030
Elven units aren't cheap, so you are likely to be facing something like:
20 x Lothern Sea Guard (FC)
10 x Archers
10 x Archers
7 x Silverhelms (all upgrades, FC)
and a bolt thrower

Not exactly a lot for 2000pts

While magic is nasty, it doesn't really pay for non-TK armies to invest to much in it, especially with the 'new' miscast tables being as harsh as they are.

magic heavy armies can't fight.
They usually have one hard hitter to countercharge or as a threat and the rest of the units will be either shooty or hiding blocks for the mages.

So the one thing you need to do is to get in close combat FAST. And, of course, try to kill his mages first.

The game will be magehunting.

Take carrions, scorpions and swarms. As many as you own. They are excelent mage hunters. Once in close combat, direct all their attacks to the mages even if that means that you will lose the combat. A death mage means that you will be able to cast more incantations and that will win you the game.

Then take your fastest units:
Chariots, chariots, and some support (screen) horsemen.
Remember, you want to be in close combat FAST. Take as many fast units as you own. You need to be in combat by turn 2

Don't forget his support unit:
It is very likely that he takes a unit of cavalry. You will need strength. Use your scorpions after they kill the mages and a well equipped hero/lord.

Don't leave home with magic items... not fighty as you wont need them. But magical ones:
BoUL
dispel scroll and brooch of the great desert
Maybe magic resistance (never liked this item but could work)
Staff of ravening
Kenopi
Plaques of incantations (for a high liche)
Jar

Remember, you want to get into close combat SOON. Take anything that take you there faster. From fast units to more magic.

I would sugest an all mounted list.

The flail of skulls is the most overrated item in our list against most armies, ok its great against ogres but against elves (and every other army which is primarily single wound models) it's practically useless. Its only going to affect characters and the odd chariot because everything else in the HE army is single wound!

The crook and flail of radience is the top enti-elf weapon of choice, more attacks, still strength 5 (so wounding almost everything on 2s) and the king still gets to hit first if he gets stuck in combat, which could happen vs those bloody spearmen.

Chariots will be key, their impact hits can really mess elves up, as well as their mobility. Elven shooting could be a problem though, they are much better shooters than us, esp with those bolt throwers and their arrow attraction spell. I'm hoping a casket of souls can even the ranged odds in my game next week and that my carrion flock can take out those bolt throwers in half the time it would take a tomb scorpion.