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layarteb - July 22, 2011 02:33 PM (GMT)
Breaking news right now, hope for AQs sake it wasn't AQ otherwise Norwegian military is going to deploy more than just SOF to A-Stan.

http://www.aftenposten.no/
http://www.nrk.no/

Samozaryadnyastan - July 22, 2011 03:08 PM (GMT)
Google Translate clearly isn't great.
QUOTE
Rods of increasing areas
A huge røyksy rose several hundred feet in the air

Translated from:
QUOTE
Stenger av stadig større områder
En svær røyksy steg flere hundre meter opp i været.

Can I get a human translation on that?

Also, whoah.
I doubt it's going to lead to a force buildup in the 'Stan though.

Franberry - July 22, 2011 06:00 PM (GMT)
its definitely local since they've got people specifically attacking a Labor party youth camp

layarteb - July 22, 2011 06:36 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Samozaryadnyastan @ Jul 22 2011, 11:08 AM)
Google Translate clearly isn't great.
QUOTE
Rods of increasing areas
A huge røyksy rose several hundred feet in the air

Translated from:
QUOTE
Stenger av stadig større områder
En svær røyksy steg flere hundre meter opp i været.

Can I get a human translation on that?

Also, whoah.
I doubt it's going to lead to a force buildup in the 'Stan though.

Basically means Norway won't just be sending SOF to A-Stan.

Falls - July 22, 2011 07:45 PM (GMT)
Well istand corrected since it seems Haji is responsible. I am thinking Norway however wont knuckle to intimidation like this, I could be wrong though.

Andorianus\Dystopianus - July 22, 2011 08:50 PM (GMT)
First thing that came up in my mind.

O shit.

Really though, that stuff looks pretty bad. Why Norway?

Izistan - July 22, 2011 11:22 PM (GMT)
latest info suggests neonazis or a dude acting alone.looks like it had been intented to kill the pm.

Lamoni - July 23, 2011 04:49 AM (GMT)

Milograd - July 23, 2011 07:50 AM (GMT)
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People at the camp said the man arrived Friday on the boat that ferries visitors across the 3/4-mile of water from the mainland and told campers that he was carrying out a security check, Labour Party member Bjorn Jarle Roberg-Larsen told CNN.

"After just a few minutes, he took a handgun and started to shoot people," Roberg-Larsen said. "A panic broke out; people tried to hide; some jumped into the water and tried to swim ashore."

Others took shelter in caves or bushes, or climbed trees. "And he went after them," the party member said. "Unfortunately, a lot of people are wounded and also a lot of people are dead."

That is just...beyond awful. :(

Ekraysia - July 23, 2011 10:00 AM (GMT)
Things like this remind me of a new philosophy I'm developing. The world and everything in it are increasingly wrong.

What did this even intend to achieve? Assuming this is the far right, nothing has actually happened or will really happen in Norway as a result of murdering 91 people.

Franberry - July 23, 2011 10:43 AM (GMT)
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Samozaryadnyastan - July 23, 2011 10:46 AM (GMT)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Holy. Fucking. Shit.

Praetonia - July 23, 2011 11:04 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Ekraysia @ Jul 23 2011, 10:00 AM)
Things like this remind me of a new philosophy I'm developing. The world and everything in it are increasingly wrong.

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Kyiv - July 23, 2011 12:59 PM (GMT)
News breaks shooter is white (and therefor not scary moslem), stormfronts website collapses under the weight of a million trolls.

:lol:

Ekraysia - July 23, 2011 02:36 PM (GMT)
In my opinion,

If this is indeed a reactionary attack, it can only be bad for the entire world. Extremism breeds extremism; it's like society is a cart. With one kind of popular extremism, one wheel falls off. We have to make do on the other three, which means it still stands, at least, but goes nowhere. Reactionism is another wheel. The cart tips over and everyone falls off. I hope I'm ranting and this isn't a precedent.

How he managed to shoot over 84 people is beyond me; the fact he surrendered rather than shot himself (quite possibly kinder than the life he will now lead), to me, says a lot.
This person is not a civilian.

Kyiv - July 23, 2011 02:48 PM (GMT)
I think there's a silver lining here.

If you listen closely you can hear the air leaking from legions of racist windbags.

"No, Adolf. You are the terrorists."

Praetonia - July 23, 2011 02:59 PM (GMT)
brave freedom fighters of the reich

Satirius - July 23, 2011 04:09 PM (GMT)
ss hauptsturmfuhrer breivik

recipient of the iron cross with golden oak leaves, swords and diamonds

Rich and Corporations - July 23, 2011 08:39 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Ekraysia @ Jul 23 2011, 03:36 PM)
In my opinion,

If this is indeed a reactionary attack, it can only be bad for the entire world. Extremism breeds extremism; it's like society is a cart. With one kind of popular extremism, one wheel falls off. We have to make do on the other three, which means it still stands, at least, but goes nowhere. Reactionism is another wheel. The cart tips over and everyone falls off. I hope I'm ranting and this isn't a precedent.

How he managed to shoot over 84 people is beyond me; the fact he surrendered rather than shot himself (quite possibly kinder than the life he will now lead), to me, says a lot.
This person is not a civilian.

Such things happen in times of economic crisis.

morrdh - July 23, 2011 09:10 PM (GMT)
The tragic events in Norway takes second place in the British news media to a crack addicted, failed singer who offed herself. <_<

Why the fuck do people think AmyCrackheadFuckingWinehouse kicking the bucket is more important than 90 odd people in Norway killed by a crazed gunman?

Praetonia - July 23, 2011 09:12 PM (GMT)
Amy Winehouse was a productive member of society, unlike politicians. otoh she wasn't murdered.

morrdh - July 23, 2011 09:48 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Praetonia @ Jul 23 2011, 10:12 PM)
Amy Winehouse was a productive member of society, unlike politicians.

Not Sure If Serious... :unsure:

Praetonia - July 23, 2011 09:53 PM (GMT)
Amy Winehouse produced music that was apparently enjoyed by many.

Izistan - July 23, 2011 10:17 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Kyiv @ Jul 23 2011, 02:48 PM)
I think there's a silver lining here.

If you listen closely you can hear the air leaking from legions of racist windbags.

"No, Adolf. You are the terrorists."

they have never pretended to be nonviolent.

shit some are active pedos

Jeuna - July 23, 2011 11:45 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (morrdh @ Jul 23 2011, 01:48 PM)
QUOTE (Praetonia @ Jul 23 2011, 10:12 PM)
Amy Winehouse was a productive member of society, unlike politicians.

Not Sure If Serious... :unsure:

prae is in constant economist mode; there are no value judgements, only what is successful and not

Franberry - July 23, 2011 11:47 PM (GMT)
I am seriously irl grieving the death of Amy Winehouse

i srsly couldnt care less about 80+ proles being shot up on some viking youth camp island, i mean norway is just going to ban civil liberties but w/e :vikingpatriotact:

Allanea - July 24, 2011 12:09 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (morrdh @ Jul 23 2011, 04:10 PM)
The tragic events in Norway takes second place in the British news media to a crack addicted, failed singer who offed herself. <_<

Why the fuck do people think AmyCrackheadFuckingWinehouse kicking the bucket is more important than 90 odd people in Norway killed by a crazed gunman?

Why are some people still cunts who thinks drug users are subhuman and deserve to die?

Rich and Corporations - July 24, 2011 06:06 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Izistan @ Jul 23 2011, 11:17 PM)
QUOTE (Kyiv @ Jul 23 2011, 02:48 PM)
I think there's a silver lining here.

If you listen closely you can hear the air leaking from legions of racist windbags.

"No, Adolf. You are the terrorists."

they have never pretended to be nonviolent.

shit some are active pedos

Kyiv - July 24, 2011 07:51 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Izistan @ Jul 23 2011, 05:17 PM)
they have never pretended to be nonviolent.

shit some are active pedos

You can't drag outright hitler-heilers down any lower, but with luck he can pull down the ones who pretend to be respectable.

He was after all a former member of the Progress Party, the second biggest party in Norwegian Parliament.




Izistan - July 24, 2011 09:20 AM (GMT)
He ain't a lone wolf. Page 1378 of his book.

QUOTE
An NS or racist/anti Jewish movement was completely out of the question, as
they represented much of what I oppose. I came in contact with Serbian cultural
conservatives through the internet. This initial contact would eventually result
in my contact with several key individuals all over Europe and the forming of
the group who would later establish the military order and tribunal, PCCTS,
Knights Templar. I remember they did a complete screening and background check
to ensure I was of the desired calibre. Two of them had reservations against
inviting me due to my young age but the leader of the group insisted on my
candidature. According to one of them, they were considering several hundred
individuals throughout Europe for a training course. I met with them for the
first time in London and later on two occasions in Balticum. I had the privilege
of meeting one of the greatest living war heroes of Europe at the time, a
Serbian crusader and war hero who had killed many Muslims in battle. Due to EU
persecution for alleged crimes against Muslims he was living at one point in
Liberia. I visited him in Monrovia once, just before the founding session in
London, 2002.

I was the youngest one there, 23 years old at the time. One of the key
founders instructed the rest of the group about several topics related to the
goal of the organisation. I believe I scribbled down more than 50 full pages of
notes regarding all possible related topics. Much of these notes are forwarded
in the book 2083. It was basically a detailed long term plan on how to seize
power in Western Europe. I did not fully comprehend at the time how privileged I
was to be in the company of some of the most brilliant political and military
tacticians of Europe. Some of us were unfamiliar with each other beforehand so I
guess we all took a high risk meeting face to face. There were only 5 people in
London re-founding the order and tribunal (1 by proxy) but there were around
25-30 attending in Balticum during the two sessions, individuals from all over
Europe; Germany, France, Sweden, the UK, Denmark, Balticum, Benelux, Spain,
Italy, Greece, Hungary, Austria, Armenia, Lebanon and Russia. Electronic or
telephonic communication was completely prohibited, before, during and after the
meetings. On our last meeting it was emphasised clearly that we cut off contact
indefinitely. Any type of contact with other cells was strictly prohibited.

This was not sessions were regular combat cells were created. It was more
like a training course for pioneer cell commanders. We were not instructed to
attack specific targets, quite the opposite. We were encouraged to rather use
the information distributed to contribute to build and expand the so called
”cultural conservative anti-Jihad movement, either through spreading propaganda,
provide funding for the creation of new groups through various forums or by
recruiting other people directly. All individuals attending the sessions learned
about PCCTS, the Knights Templar but they were not specifically instructed to
represent that particular order and tribunal. Everyone was encouraged but at the
end, it was their own decision how they decided to manifest their resistance. A
special emphasis was put on the long term nature of the struggle (50-100 years).
Our task was to contribute to a long term approach and not to act prematurely.
If there was a large scale attack the next 10 years it was said, we should avoid
any immediate follow up attacks as it would negate the shock effect of the
subsequent attacks. A large successful attack every 5-12 years was optimal
depending on available forces.

This was not a stereotypical “right wing” meeting full of underprivileged
racist skinheads with a short temper, but quite the opposite. Most of them were
successful entrepreneurs, business or political leaders, some with families,
most of them Christian conservatives but also some agnostics and even atheists.
I remember it struck me how impressed I was regarding how they had set up the
screening parameters (for accepting new candidates). They obviously wanted
resourceful pragmatical individuals who were able to keep information away from
their loved ones and who were not in any way flagged by their governments. Every
one of them was supportive of a Judeo Christian Europe and did not have any
reservations against cooperating with non-European Christians Hindu or Buddhist
nationalists. I had or have a relatively close relationship with at least one of
them, an Englishman, who became my mentor. He was the one who first described
the “perfect knight” and had written the initial fundament for this compendium.
I was asked, not only once but twice, by my mentor; let’s call him Richard, to
write a second edition of his compendium about the new European Knighthood. As
such, I spent several years to create an economic platform which would allow me
to study and write a second edition. And as of now, I have spent more than three
years completing this second edition. Perhaps, someone out there will be able to
contribute by creating a third edition one day.

Praetonia - July 24, 2011 09:22 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Jeuna @ Jul 23 2011, 11:45 PM)
QUOTE (morrdh @ Jul 23 2011, 01:48 PM)
QUOTE (Praetonia @ Jul 23 2011, 10:12 PM)
Amy Winehouse was a productive member of society, unlike politicians.

Not Sure If Serious... :unsure:

prae is in constant economist mode; there are no value judgements, only what is successful and not

Nothing wrong with value judgements. Amy Winehouse pretty clearly contributed to society. She also took drugs. So what? She bought them with her own money, which she earned doing something that apparently brought happiness to millions. I don't see what everyone's problem is with her.

Izistan - July 24, 2011 09:45 AM (GMT)
Oh and:

QUOTE

“Decisive-blow” campaigns – high grade anthrax mailing campaigns

Provided we have established a laboratory in Europe and the necessary equipment, we would be able to launch a “decisive-blow-campaign”.

This operation will involve at least 21 individuals (depending if we already have the necessary amount of high grade anthrax) and will require a complete database of all category A and B traitor names, addresses etc. Personnel needed: 1 administrator, 20 for distribution.

Would require 818(409) kilograms of anthrax (2(1) grams of anthrax per targeted individual):

France – 65 650 category A and B traitors
Germany – 82 820
United Kingdom – 62 216
Netherlands – 16 665
Belgium – 10 807
Sweden – 9393
Norway – 4848
Luxembourg – 498
Switzerland – 7777
Spain – 47 167
Italy – 60 600
Portugal – 10 807
Denmark – 5555
Ireland – 6060
Greece – 11 312
Finland – 5353
Iceland – 322
Cyprus – 800
Malta – 417


Denmark, Greece, Finland, Iceland and perhaps Italy should be excluded from the list.

There are a total of 409 067 category A and B traitors in Western Europe according to the current classification system (1010 per million).

Ekraysia - July 24, 2011 09:52 AM (GMT)
thread ruined somewhere

Kyiv - July 24, 2011 10:13 AM (GMT)
What I meant was, hopefully, this will create a blowback against the far-right organizations and parties that try to masquerade as "legit" organizations (like say the progress party) because now someone undeniably associated with them has gone an shattered the notion (and one of their favorite talking points) that terrorists=muslims.





Praetonia - July 24, 2011 10:19 AM (GMT)
That makes about as much sense as saying no one should vote democrat because of 9/11.

Izistan - July 24, 2011 10:35 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Kyiv @ Jul 24 2011, 10:13 AM)
What I meant was, hopefully, this will create a blowback against the far-right organizations and parties that try to masquerade as "legit" organizations (like say the progress party) because now someone undeniably associated with them has gone an shattered the notion (and one of their favorite talking points) that terrorists=muslims.

haha no


Izistan - July 24, 2011 10:37 AM (GMT)

Franberry - July 24, 2011 11:19 AM (GMT)
this thread is now about amy winehouse

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if you gonna hate get out

Vault X - July 24, 2011 11:31 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Ekraysia @ Jul 23 2011, 02:36 PM)
How he managed to shoot over 84 people is beyond me; the fact he surrendered rather than shot himself (quite possibly kinder than the life he will now lead), to me, says a lot.
This person is not a civilian.

Well, from his viewpoint, why not surrender? He's not insane, and there's no DP, the worst he can get is a partial-life sentence. Norway is a civilized country, which has proper rehabilitative prisons, not US crapholes. People can do a lot of things there, and since Anders is clearly into writing, he'll be working on further developing his works.

It's hard to support what he did, but I can't help but be impressed by just the sheer nonchalance of the execution, by how calmly he did it. And at the same, seeing how Anders knew exactly what he was doing, it's hard to see what he was trying to accomplish. He's clearly not thinning out the lefties to any measurable extent with 90 kills, and at their age there still was chance for rehabilitation. The shooting itself might cause political backlash, and, worst of all, potential threat to gun rights - though his guns were almost certainly illegal.

The only good I see coming from this is that fewer parents might be inclined to send their children to these brainwashing camps to be turned into political zombies. But that might have very little effect with just one shooting, since it doesn't establish a pattern (and, as any zombie aficionado can attest, zombies know no fear.) It's ironic, I certainly don't wish for another shooting, but if it doesn't happen, these deaths might end up being in vain. Anyway, that's probably not what he had in mind.

I hope though they have a televised trial. Anders clearly has no defense, and will get 21 indeterminate, but it would still be interesting to hear just what can be said in such a venue. And hey, if we are to find a bright side - should it be followed through, with interviews, documentary and fictionalized movies, video games, other merchandise, it might even make enough contribution to popular culture to balance out the loss of Amy Winehouse. People more concerned about the death of one celebrity than 92 civilians aren't griefing for the person, they are griefing for themselves not getting to pirate her next album.

Praetonia - July 24, 2011 11:48 AM (GMT)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12...h-new-jail.html

Related, Norway's newest maximum security prison:

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[can just about see the flatscreen, and the remote on the bedside table]

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[Note: en-suite]

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VX, have you seen his manifesto ("European Declaration of Independence")? Since it's you, I presume you have. The point seems to be to disseminate that book and to breed more cells.




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