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Macabees - March 9, 2009 03:44 PM (GMT)
[Like the music thread and similar to the review thread in the 'Library', but for general topics.]

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Meltdown: A Free-Market Look at Why the Stock Market Collapsed, the Economy Tanked, and Government Bailouts Will Make Things Worse
Thomas E. Woods Jr.

I'm on page 87 (out of only 160 which are prose) and the book has already captivated me. It drew me because it was a free-market perspective on the current economic recession (and, coincidentally, my economics term paper is on the the current economic recession and the government's bailout [and parallels with the Great Depression and New Deal]), but insofar I've gotten more out of it than I thought I would've. Unlike books with a Chicago school or Keynesian perspective Thomas E. Woods Jr. can actually explain what's going on and why it has happened. Like Austrian school economists he doesn't just rely on real factors and on psychological factors, but on a mixture of both (although, he puts weight on real factors, such as the federal reserve).

The book covers the federal reserve and the role of government in today's economy, the housing bubble and the bailout. He also covers the Austrian Business Cycles in a way that the common reader can understand, and refers back to the Japanese bust of the 1980s (and how the government's bailout and interference drew it out, and how it's similar to the current bailout plan) and the dot-com bust. After that Woods covers the myths of the Great Depression. The last two chapters of his book are on money (inflation and deflation; I haven't read this chapter yet, but it seems that his opinion on deflation is similar to early Rothbard's or de Soto's) and what the government should do (a compromise, of course, of sorts).

Meltdown is currently #11 on the New York Times' Bestseller List, which shows how persuasive Wood's writing is. In a country full of interventionist, or people who don't know better, it's a feat within itself that this book, written from the Austrian perspective, can be so widely sold. Even if you disagree with the Austrian school of thought, or that it was the government who created the housing bubble and the consequent bust, I would recommend this book to anybody interested in economics and the current recession. It is certainly a perspective that's worth knowing, and you might be persuaded - you never know (regardless, a good Austrian economists is well read on Keynes, so the opposite applies, as well).

Admittedly, the book was published in 2009 and so does not cover current events (i.e. the progression of the bailout bill). But, it's still a very good reference on what happened between 1990 and 2008 (it's mostly up to date to October 2008, although it was published in early 2009). The information on the Japanese bust is particularly startling (although the book does not really cover what ultimately brought the economy out of the bust, nor does the book really cover the Great Depression and what solved it in depth, either).

You can buy it on the Mises website for $21. The price in a store is $27. Amazon sells it for ~$19 (where I bought it from). It is a worthwhile investment.

Falls - March 9, 2009 03:52 PM (GMT)
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http://www.spacevulture.com/
Just finished Space Vulture, a great bit of Pulp Fiction.

Now i am starting over again with:
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http://www.amazon.com/Looming-Tower-Al-Qae...1/dp/037541486X
Which I found to be an excellent book very well researched and written with little bias. The research for this book definitely spans several volumes of work and this is an excellent introduction to the MIddle East Radicals for the Neophyte.

Mussleburgh - March 9, 2009 04:31 PM (GMT)
The Politics of Greed from 1986 there's no where to buy it and no picture on the internet.

A Kestrel for a Knave about a boy in a 1980s coal mining town. Very depressing.

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The Floodgates of Anarchy from 1970 again I don't think you can buy it and I googled pictured it and no result.

layarteb - March 9, 2009 04:44 PM (GMT)

Doomingsland - March 9, 2009 04:55 PM (GMT)
Dante's Inferno.

Pontinia - March 9, 2009 05:20 PM (GMT)
Fatal Revenant, by Stephen Donaldson. Second book in the Last Chronicles of Thomas Covenant - if you ever wanted a hefty yet totally worthwhile series, the Covenant books are definitely the ones to read.

Crookfur - March 9, 2009 07:35 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Mussleburgh @ Mar 9 2009, 04:31 PM)
The Politics of Greed from 1986 there's no where to buy it and no picture on the internet.

A Kestrel for a Knave about a boy in a 1980s coal mining town. Very depressing.

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The Floodgates of Anarchy from 1970 again I don't think you can buy it and I googled pictured it and no result.

Kes/ A Kestrel for a Knave gets better towards the end.

But i would never have read it if it wasn't for school.

Currently i'm reading Under Enemy Colours by Sean Thomas Russell

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So far so Sharpe at sea.

Really it has it all.
A central "outsider" character
A motley crew that needs knocking into shape.
Incompetant senior officers who have nothign better to do than make life miserable for the protagonist
Assorted Cookie cutter freinds (the marine officer with a sharp sense of humor, the old pro sailign amster, the slightly less able best mate whose career is much further along becuase he isn't an outsider and the old former commander, heck even the first Secretary of the Admiralty is apparently the same person as Wellington in the Sharpe series).

Ah but enough moaning its a nice read and a good change of pace from the John Ringo and books about afghanistan I have been reading lately.

Central Prestonia - March 9, 2009 07:40 PM (GMT)
The Great Gatsby for school. Need to find The Gulag Archipelago and/or some decent non-Clancy MT warfics.

layarteb - March 9, 2009 08:22 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Central Prestonia @ Mar 9 2009, 02:40 PM)
The Great Gatsby for school. Need to find The Gulag Archipelago and/or some decent non-Clancy MT warfics.

Great book.

Crookfur - March 9, 2009 08:28 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Central Prestonia @ Mar 9 2009, 07:40 PM)
The Great Gatsby for school. Need to find The Gulag Archipelago and/or some decent non-Clancy MT warfics.

Read Dale Brown his stuff is made of total awesome...




Fail.

Unless you are relaly into bombers, airborne lasers and power suits...

Nianacio - March 9, 2009 08:37 PM (GMT)
I'm currently researching primarily non-military design in the Third Reich -- product design, architecture, interior design, typography, graphic design, fashion, whatever -- after more reading I'll post something in more detail if anyone's interested.

Evvonia - March 9, 2009 09:15 PM (GMT)
For school I'm reading 5 books over the history of western civilization to 1660 and 5 more over the history of England. Some of them are textbookish, others arent. My other books are more standard textbooks.

Outside of class I'm reading Bird by Bird (after reccomendation by my graduate hall director).

Macabees - March 9, 2009 09:28 PM (GMT)
[Just finished Meltdown.]

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New Deal or Raw Deal?: How FDR's Economic Legacy Has Damaged America
Burton Folsom Jr.

QUOTE (Amazon.com)

In this shocking and groundbreaking new book, economic historian Burton W. Folsom exposes the idyllic legend of Franklin D. Roosevelt as a myth of epic proportions. With questionable moral character and a vendetta against the business elite, Roosevelt created New Deal programs marked by inconsistent planning, wasteful spending, and opportunity for political gain -- ultimately elevating public opinion of his administration but falling flat in achieving the economic revitalization that America so desperately needed from the Great Depression. Folsom takes a critical, revisionist look at Roosevelt's presidency, his economic policies, and his personal life.

Elected in 1932 on a buoyant tide of promises to balance the increasingly uncontrollable national budget and reduce the catastrophic unemployment rate, the charismatic thirty-second president not only neglected to pursue those goals, he made dramatic changes to federal programming that directly contradicted his campaign promises. Price fixing, court packing, regressive taxes, and patronism were all hidden inside the alphabet soup of his popular New Deal, putting a financial strain on the already suffering lower classes and discouraging the upper classes from taking business risks that potentially could have jostled national cash flow from dormancy. Many government programs that are widely used today have their seeds in the New Deal. Farm subsidies, minimum wage, and welfare, among others, all stifle economic growth -- encouraging decreased productivity and exacerbating unemployment.

Roosevelt's imperious approach to the presidency changed American politics forever, and as he manipulated public opinion, American citizens became unwitting accomplices to the stilted economic growth of the 1930s. More than sixty years after FDR died in office, we still struggle with the damaging repercussions of his legacy.



Falls - March 9, 2009 10:03 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Nianacio @ Mar 9 2009, 08:37 PM)
I'm currently researching primarily non-military design in the Third Reich -- product design, architecture, interior design, typography, graphic design, fashion, whatever -- after more reading I'll post something in more detail if anyone's interested.

Very interested.

Otagia - March 9, 2009 10:22 PM (GMT)
Elantris, by Brian Sanderson.

Ato-Sara - March 9, 2009 10:57 PM (GMT)
Worlds by Joe Haldeman

Granate - March 10, 2009 01:36 AM (GMT)
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American Lion: Andrew Jackson in the White House by Jon Meacham

no endorse - March 10, 2009 02:12 AM (GMT)
The idiotic quotes from #d people keep posting in #nsarms.

Sumer - March 10, 2009 03:24 AM (GMT)
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For the third time in a week.

Greal - March 10, 2009 03:46 AM (GMT)
Currently I'm reading two books.

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Otagia - March 10, 2009 03:59 AM (GMT)
Cornwell's gonna keep milking that sucker until blood comes out of its nipples, isn't he.

Ato-Sara - March 10, 2009 09:33 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Otagia @ Mar 10 2009, 03:59 AM)
Cornwell's gonna keep milking that sucker until blood comes out of its nipples, isn't he.

Er.... He hasn't written a Sharpe book in ages.

Praetonia - March 10, 2009 12:36 PM (GMT)
I have read every Sharpe book pip pip huzzah. Ato's right, I think he's stopped writing them. However he probably does alright off the random new TV versions they keep making. Plus he writes other books now which are supposedly just the same with varying settings and nationalities, but not having read them I won't comment...

Right now Im reading this:

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fun fun fun




Mussleburgh - March 10, 2009 03:10 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Crookfur @ Mar 9 2009, 07:35 PM)
Kes/ A Kestrel for a Knave gets better towards the end.

But i would never have read it if it wasn't for school.

:o Lies the endings sick! His brother kills his hope and he gives up on his life!

Izistan - March 10, 2009 04:43 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Sumer @ Mar 10 2009, 03:24 AM)
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For the third time in a week.

omgomgomgomg

Crookfur - March 10, 2009 08:33 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Praetonia @ Mar 10 2009, 12:36 PM)
I have read every Sharpe book pip pip huzzah. Ato's right, I think he's stopped writing them. However he probably does alright off the random new TV versions they keep making. Plus he writes other books now which are supposedly just the same with varying settings and nationalities, but not having read them I won't comment...

Right now Im reading this:

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fun fun fun

Well the Starbuck Cronicles were the worst for that.

Cornwell's stone henge book was pretty good and i have heard good stuff about his Arthurian series.

Crookfur - March 10, 2009 08:38 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Mussleburgh @ Mar 10 2009, 03:10 PM)
QUOTE (Crookfur @ Mar 9 2009, 07:35 PM)
Kes/ A Kestrel for a Knave gets better towards the end.

But i would never have read it if it wasn't for school.

:o Lies the endings sick! His brother kills his hope and he gives up on his life!

Well it has been about 15 years since I read it and I vaguely remebered it getting a bit better.

Most of the depression in it likely got obscured by the sheer despair that was Death of a Salesman, the Inheritors and the poetry we got in higher english.

And my teacher wondered why I read a LOT of space opera that year...

Sumer - March 10, 2009 09:00 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Izistan @ Mar 10 2009, 12:43 PM)
QUOTE (Sumer @ Mar 10 2009, 03:24 AM)
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For the third time in a week.

omgomgomgomg

Add that I own and have read this at least a million times:

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Plus various other craptacular sources. And I must be the foremost expert on Japanese tanks and tank tactics on NSD.

Nianacio - March 10, 2009 09:54 PM (GMT)
Haha, Japanese tank tactics are fun. Yes, you can successfully use tanks in SE Asia, and no, your experiences with China are not applicable to the USSR. ^_^ I take it those books are worth the read? Osprey books would be good for me now -- not much time, but I need something different to read for a little bit at a time.

Sumer - March 10, 2009 10:05 PM (GMT)
Very good. I've basically gotten lazy and decided to buy as many of them as I can since they're great reference books.

Also, ironically, through experiences in China against the Chinese and Soviets, the Japanese formed what has got to be the single best combined arms doctrine of the second world war.....

.... And then never implemented it in practice.

Izistan - March 12, 2009 06:18 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Sumer @ Mar 10 2009, 09:00 PM)
QUOTE (Izistan @ Mar 10 2009, 12:43 PM)
QUOTE (Sumer @ Mar 10 2009, 03:24 AM)
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For the third time in a week.

omgomgomgomg

Add that I own and have read this at least a million times:

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Plus various other craptacular sources. And I must be the foremost expert on Japanese tanks and tank tactics on NSD.

I demand a thread on this.

Also anyone know any good books about the war in China? I can't find any. :(

layarteb - March 12, 2009 06:48 PM (GMT)
While you're at it how about books on Lebanon during the Civil War in the 1980s and what involved the US had as well as the fundamentals of it? I can't find shit on it anywhere!

Macabees - March 12, 2009 07:02 PM (GMT)

I used to have a number of articles available through JSTOR, but they were all deleted. :(

layarteb - March 12, 2009 08:33 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Macabees @ Mar 12 2009, 02:02 PM)
I used to have a number of articles available through JSTOR, but they were all deleted. :(

It's almost as if nothing happened there. Amazon.com doesn't even have squat!

East Glacia - March 12, 2009 09:02 PM (GMT)
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Admittedly I finished the book about a month ago, but eh, I don't read to often. Still a greeeaaaatttt book. But seriously, it is.

Greal - March 12, 2009 09:36 PM (GMT)
The Forever War is an awesome book. I first read it three years ago. :)

Anyway, here is my reading. Awesome book.

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I love it when Artemis goes to Taiwan. :D

Willink - March 13, 2009 12:00 AM (GMT)
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new kereptica - March 13, 2009 12:14 AM (GMT)
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I only wish that I could get them all in one volume.

Macabees - March 13, 2009 06:31 AM (GMT)
I got to #7 and stopped reading. This was about six years ago. I would get back into them, since they were really good books, but I'd have to start from book #1.

Jeuna - March 13, 2009 06:46 AM (GMT)
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