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Title: #d: Draftroom Chatroom Rules and Policies


Macabees - April 13, 2009 09:39 PM (GMT)
In light of recent chaos in #draftroom, our forum's channel, I have decided to write this post in order to provide a clear ruling on how the channel is to operate and what is allowable and what isn't. In the spirit of liberty, there are no topics which cannot be discussed, under the condition that they do not break Espernet's rules. This includes "dissent" against channel operators. It should be noted that Espernet explicitly disallows spamming, and this method of "political manifestation" is prohibited in #draftroom, as a result. So, these are the few rules that all users agree to abide by when they join the channel:
  • Don't spam.
  • Only ops have the power to voice and devoice users. If you are autovoiced, don't voice users.
  • Do not post links to porn, or other content prohibited by Espernet.
Of course, any other action which detracts or threatens the liberty of other users is also offensive.

Spamming, unless consistent (that is, the user spams after repeated temporary banishment), cannot result in a permanent banishment from #draftroom.

And so, this is a message to channel operators: dissent, including through spamming, does not warrant a permanent banishment. This is especially true if their spam is only a reaction to trolling on part of a portion of the channel. In this case, both the spammer and the troll should be temporarily banned. Any permanent banishment on these grounds will be rescinded after due time (that is, the time of the temporary banishment as a result of spamming) by myself. Continued disrespect for my rules will be met with your operator privileges being taken away.

However, if a new user fails to "identify" his NS nation, it may result in a ban.

Anti-Spiz Act: This gives the ops the right to establish permanent bans on members who are overly pedantic.

Anti-Aeq Act: "Ur mom" jokes result in 7 day bans.

Anti-Idiots Act: Giving a stupid answer when someone perfectly reasonably ask someone with an unfamiliar nick who they are will result in a short temp ban.

no endorse - April 13, 2009 10:04 PM (GMT)
The necessity of directing this at channel operators as well begs the question of their qualification for that position.

Macabees - April 13, 2009 10:08 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (no endorse @ Apr 13 2009, 10:04 PM)
The necessity of directing this at channel operators as well begs the question of their qualification for that position.


It does, but I don't feel that the time has yet come of replacing them. This is especially true since I wasn't present for the most recent trouble, and I really don't know the true story. I've tried to be "fair" in the sense that I have just really absolved all parties of blame and just returned the channel the conditions prior to whatever happened.

These new regulations are simply to avoid future problems, including operator misconduct, as opposed to punishing past issues.

Izistan - April 13, 2009 11:21 PM (GMT)
Well what about democratically elected operators with term limits?

omganliberty

Cravan - April 13, 2009 11:41 PM (GMT)
It's a fucking irc channel. There's no need to complicate it by giving it a damned electoral system and whatnot.

Izistan - April 13, 2009 11:46 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Cravan @ Apr 13 2009, 11:41 PM)
It's a fucking irc channel. There's no need to complicate it by giving it a damned electoral system and whatnot.

no u

TWSP - April 14, 2009 02:41 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Cravan @ Apr 13 2009, 11:41 PM)
It's a fucking irc channel. There's no need to complicate it by giving it a damned electoral system and whatnot.

You weren't the one getting banned for being "tyranny" (by agreeing with the Mods over at NS), Crave.

Macabees - April 14, 2009 02:45 AM (GMT)

There is already a check in place against ops, so I don't see the need for democratic elections (which would just complicate matters; and, I cannot be deopped since I am the founding op).

The Peoples Freedom - April 14, 2009 03:06 AM (GMT)
Who got banned at NS?

Macabees - April 14, 2009 03:08 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (The Peoples Freedom @ Apr 14 2009, 03:06 AM)
Who got banned at NS?


That I know of: Franberry, Praetonia, Willink, Talost's nation and a bunch of other people.

Mondoth - April 14, 2009 03:13 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Macabees @ Apr 13 2009, 08:45 PM)
There is already a check in place against ops, so I don't see the need for democratic elections (which would just complicate matters; and, I cannot be deopped since I am the founding op).

what checks are those again?

Macabees - April 14, 2009 03:15 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Mondoth @ Apr 14 2009, 03:13 AM)

what checks are those again?


Me.

The Peoples Freedom - April 14, 2009 03:37 AM (GMT)
nvm

Mondoth - April 14, 2009 03:59 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Macabees @ Apr 13 2009, 09:15 PM)
QUOTE (Mondoth @ Apr 14 2009, 03:13 AM)

what checks are those again?


Me.

clearly the system works.

Macabees - April 14, 2009 04:13 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Mondoth @ Apr 14 2009, 03:59 AM)

clearly the system works.


Clearly, it has. Because, otherwise the permabans carried out would have never been rescinded. The problem is the appearance of apathy in regards to their own policies. I don't think it will happen again, and I have already warned that their op powers will be eliminated if they continue to ban people based on their political ideologies, or to fuel a meme used for general trolling (i.e. "liberty").

Evvonia - April 14, 2009 05:23 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (TWSP @ Apr 13 2009, 09:41 PM)
QUOTE (Cravan @ Apr 13 2009, 11:41 PM)
It's a fucking irc channel. There's no need to complicate it by giving it a damned electoral system and whatnot.

You weren't the one getting banned for being "tyranny" (by agreeing with the Mods over at NS), Crave.

You shouldn't troll the ops and act like a general asshat then

Izistan - April 14, 2009 07:07 AM (GMT)
posters of draftroom unite

we have nothing to lose but our chains

Olmedreca - April 14, 2009 07:13 AM (GMT)
#dRAMA D:<

Izistan - April 14, 2009 07:37 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Olmedreca @ Apr 14 2009, 07:13 AM)
#dRAMA D:<

no u

Mondoth - April 14, 2009 08:32 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Evvonia @ Apr 13 2009, 11:23 PM)
QUOTE (TWSP @ Apr 13 2009, 09:41 PM)
QUOTE (Cravan @ Apr 13 2009, 11:41 PM)
It's a fucking irc channel. There's no need to complicate it by giving it a damned electoral system and whatnot.

You weren't the one getting banned for being "tyranny" (by agreeing with the Mods over at NS), Crave.

You shouldn't troll the ops and act like a general asshat then

if the ops can't take it, they shouldn't dish it.

TWSP - April 14, 2009 02:05 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Evvonia @ Apr 14 2009, 05:23 AM)
QUOTE (TWSP @ Apr 13 2009, 09:41 PM)
QUOTE (Cravan @ Apr 13 2009, 11:41 PM)
It's a fucking irc channel. There's no need to complicate it by giving it a damned electoral system and whatnot.

You weren't the one getting banned for being "tyranny" (by agreeing with the Mods over at NS), Crave.

You shouldn't troll the ops and act like a general asshat then

Excuse me, Kampf, but I wasn't the one posting "OUST TWSP!" over and over, now was I?

Macabees - April 14, 2009 02:11 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Mondoth @ Apr 14 2009, 08:32 AM)

if the ops can't take it, they shouldn't dish it.


Agreed.

Macabees - April 14, 2009 02:12 PM (GMT)

Let's stop spamming the thread with what has already happened. Nobody has been punished for the trolling and spamming which took place two days ago. Let's move on.

Franberry - April 14, 2009 08:39 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (The Peoples Freedom @ Apr 14 2009, 12:06 AM)
Who got banned at NS?

it expires later today or tomorrow

really its pointless to wahh about it and that goes to everyone involved

Jeuna - April 14, 2009 08:54 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (TWSP @ Apr 14 2009, 09:05 AM)
QUOTE (Evvonia @ Apr 14 2009, 05:23 AM)
QUOTE (TWSP @ Apr 13 2009, 09:41 PM)
QUOTE (Cravan @ Apr 13 2009, 11:41 PM)
It's a fucking irc channel. There's no need to complicate it by giving it a damned electoral system and whatnot.

You weren't the one getting banned for being "tyranny" (by agreeing with the Mods over at NS), Crave.

You shouldn't troll the ops and act like a general asshat then

Excuse me, Kampf, but I wasn't the one posting "OUST TWSP!" over and over, now was I?

oust twsp from life

Macabees - April 14, 2009 09:28 PM (GMT)

Let's not flame or troll on this thread, please.

Hogsweat - January 17, 2010 06:49 PM (GMT)
Also, mattocracy itt.

Clandonia - April 11, 2010 10:09 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Hogsweat @ Jan 17 2010, 06:49 PM)
Also, mattocracy itt.

The benevolent libertadic-tyrant mattocrat speaks the truth.

1010102 - April 11, 2010 11:47 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Clandonia @ Apr 11 2010, 05:09 PM)
QUOTE (Hogsweat @ Jan 17 2010, 06:49 PM)
Also, mattocracy itt.

The benevolent libertadic-tyrant mattocrat speaks the truth.

benevolent my ass

smash the mattocrat

Praetonia - April 11, 2010 11:51 PM (GMT)
user posted image

Death to all revisionist enemies of the mattocrat.

Okie - April 20, 2010 03:15 AM (GMT)
user posted image

tyrandis - August 14, 2010 06:12 AM (GMT)
i would like to propose the Anti-Neufagen Act, wherein persons filling the following criteria:

1. new
2. retarded

are banished from #d's hallowed halls.

Macabees - August 16, 2010 04:11 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (tyrandis @ Aug 14 2010, 06:12 AM)
i would like to propose the Anti-Neufagen Act, wherein persons filling the following criteria:

1. new
2. retarded

are banished from #d's hallowed halls.


Motion denied.




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