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Title: Killroy Class SSDNV
Description: Space Dominance Super Space Dread Naught


Google Rape - May 30, 2010 02:58 PM (GMT)
Killroy Class SDNV (Super Dread Naught Versatile)

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Killroy Class SDNV (Super Dread Naught Versatile)

Specifications

Type: Super Dread Naught Versatile
Role: Naval Dominance
Displacement (Full): 182354.31 Metric Tons
Length: (Overall): 341.77 Metres
Beam: (Overall): 61.95 Metres
Design Draught: 17.81 Metres
Propulsion: 3 x Honeycomb Titanium Pebble Bed Reactor
2 x Ti-10-2-3 Steam Boilers
4 x Ti-10-2-3 Shafts
4 x Honeycomb Titanium Screws with 9 Blades each
Power: 9600 Megawatt
Flank Speed: 60 Kilometres per Hour
Cruise Speed: 15 Kilometres per Hour
Range: 1000000 Kilometres
Armament: 4 x 600 Millimetre L/100 Ti-10-2-3 Electro Thermo Chemical Liquid Propellant Successive Charge Rarefaction Wave Ramjet Assisted Cannon
Countermeasures: 108 x CIWS
22 x Underwater CIWS
Protection: 371.78 Millimetres Honeycomb Titanium Armour Belt
239.14 Millimetres Honeycomb Titanium Armour Deck
Complement: 1 Captain, 2 Officers, 8 Soldiers
Sensors: RADAR, LIDAR, LADAR, SONAR
Aircraft: none
Cost: 10000000000$ or 500000000$ per Year with 20 Year Contract

History

Since its Creation, Google Rape needed a Navy, and Killroy Class SDNV is the Design that answers this Need. Killroy Class SDNV is a Super Dread Naught Versatile Ship, which means it has more Guns and more Battle Power than any other Ship in the Google Navy.

Killroy Class SDNV is a very revolutionary Design and it owes that to advanced Science and Technology brought forward by Google. Several Years ago, Google Scientists made an amazing Discovery. Using Google Scholar Services, they found a new Titanium Alloy, Ti-10V-2Fe-3Al, also known as Ti-10-2-3. It turned out to be one of the strongest of all Titanium Alloys and both lighter and stronger in any Applications than all other Metals except for Honeycomb Titanium.
Because it is generally very rare in the World, almost no one knows about it, but Google Rape got lucky. Upon the Discovery, millions of search Teams, armed with gPhone 700, rigorously searched all available Territories using Google Maps, and vast deposits of Ti-10V-2Fe-3Al were found in Google Rape. Since then, almost Everything in Google Rape is being made of this amazing Metal.

Power and Armament

Since there are way too many Missiles on the Battlefield today, Killroy Class SDNV had to protect against them. Special Structure is used for that - Killroy Class SDNV doesnt have a Hull in the conventional Sense. Instead, it has a Honeycomb Titanium Frame that holds it together and its Skin is built entirely out of CIWS. 108 CIWS of various Calibre protect Killroy Class SDNV from Air Attack and additional 22 Underwater Supercavitating CIWS protect it from all Torpedoes.

Since it has to operate a long Way from Home, Killroy Class SDNV uses Nuclear Power, with three Honeycomb Titanium Pebble Bed Reactors producing 3200 Megawatts of power each. These Reactors are additionally protected by 100 Millimetres of Ti-10-2-3. Their Power is sent to the Screws via Ti-10-2-3 Shafts and the Screws themselves are made of Honeycomb Titanium to resist Torpedoes.

Automation

Because Killroy Class SDNV is a nuclear Ship, its Computers must be protected against Effects of Electromagnetic Pulse. So conventional electronic Computers would be too vulnerable. In Order to overcome that, Killroy Class SDNV uses a large and powerful Mechanical Computer. This Computer is built entirely of Honeycomb Titanium for maximum Strength and Resistance. It is connected to Radars, Lidars, Reactors and all other Parts, and controls all Operations of the Killroy Class SDNV, ensuring maximum Reliability and Performance. The Computer is overclocked when entering Combat for further increased Precision and Capability.

Advanced Automation brought forward by the Multitasking Features of Google Android OS 2.2 and incredible Reliability of the Mechanical Computer have another great Side Effect, as they allow to reduce the Crew to only 8 Soldiers, 2 Officers and a Captain.

Performance

Underwater Supercavitating CIWS offer great Protection, but unfortunately because of their Drag, the Killroy Class SDNV only cruises at 15 Kilometres per Hour. Fortunately, its underwater CIWS are very powerful. If Killroy Class SDNV has to get Somewhere fast, it is the CIWS that actually help it. By firing all the Underwater Supercavitating CIWS with special Honeycomb Titanium Supercavitation Generation Rounds, a massive Thrust is produced, and a sufficient Amount of Supercavitation is created to make the entire Ship supercavitate. That Way, it can reach Speeds as great as 60 Kilometres per Hour.

These powerful long Range Cannons give Killroy Class SDNV the Power truly deserving of a Super Dread Naught. It may be slower than other Ships, but it is fast when it matters, and because it can not be destroyed with Missiles or Torpedoes, the Killroy Class SDNV can always reach its Target and destroy it with a powerful Broadside Artillery Barrage. This ensures that Killroy Class SDNV will remain the most formidable Naval Dominance Surface Combatant throughout the Twenty First Century.

Dinosians - May 30, 2010 04:17 PM (GMT)
FYI Computers are mechanical already.

Also you have quite a few guns there.

And finally it is spelled "Dreadnought".

Mussleburgh - May 30, 2010 04:36 PM (GMT)
What happens if all the guns fire at once?

EDIT: :o Are those chain guns on the underside of the ship?

Mondoth - May 30, 2010 04:43 PM (GMT)
no

Abrakadabra - May 30, 2010 05:38 PM (GMT)
Why, oh why, do you capitalize nouns?

Also, what Mondoth said.

Satirius - May 30, 2010 05:43 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Abrakadabra @ May 30 2010, 06:38 PM)
Why, oh why, do you capitalize nouns?

He could be German, as IIRC German capitalizes all nouns.

Also what Mondoth said. Munchie may also rage once he hears you put pebblebed on a ship.

Abrakadabra - May 30, 2010 05:45 PM (GMT)
German nouns are indeed capitalized. English nouns are not; it just makes it hard to read.

Satirius - May 30, 2010 05:55 PM (GMT)
Also, nuclear reactors don't produce EMP, and "mechanical computer" usually means "Babbage addition machine."

Google Rape - May 31, 2010 04:47 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Mussleburgh @ May 30 2010, 05:36 PM)
What happens if all the guns fire at once?

EDIT: :o Are those chain guns on the underside of the ship?

If all CIWS fire at once it destroys any Missile or Torpedo. Also if all underwater CIWS fire it produces Thrust. Main Guns are not too big 600 mm and I only have 4.
Yes these are big Chainguns I drew them because there were no Stock Parts for Underwater, theyre like other CIWS but with more Barrels.


QUOTE (Satirius @ May 30 2010, 06:43 PM)
Also what Mondoth said. Munchie may also rage once he hears you put pebblebed on a ship.

Is that unusual? I mean Pebblebed on Ship, I have seen a lot of them. I really tried to get this one right so I read through many Draftroom Designs and took all best Ideas I could find.

QUOTE (Satirius @ May 30 2010, 06:55 PM)
Also, nuclear reactors don't produce EMP, and "mechanical computer" usually means "Babbage addition machine."

Yes thats what this is, Babbage Analytical Machine but modern and so runs Android OS 2.2.

sunstar60 - May 31, 2010 04:57 AM (GMT)
There's not a snowball's chance in hell you'd be able to keep all those guns firing for more than thirty minutes. The amount of ammunition storage this would take.... :o

EDIT: I don't care if this ship is a robot, CIWS eat through ammo like Garfield through lasagna.

Mondoth - May 31, 2010 05:47 AM (GMT)
So none of our newer/less-experienced members will waste anymore of their time, I will expand upon my earlier point:

It would be easier to pick out things you got right with this design than to go down the list of things you got completely wrong:
Nothing.

That is, this design fails on Every. Single. Level. There is literally, and I mean that in the dictionary sense of the word, literally no redeeming qualities to this design.

I'd say this vessel wouldn't even float, but that would imply it could be physically constructed in the first place.

Don't waste anymore of your time, there's nothing here to be salvaged.

sunstar:
most CIWS systems don't carry enough ammo to fire for thirty seconds
thirty minutes is entirely out of the question

Google Rape - May 31, 2010 08:03 AM (GMT)
OK then explain me how to make it better! I read all the Threads about SDN and took all best Ideas, why is it still wrong?
And why cant it be constructed isnt Honeycomb Titanium the strongest Metal on Earth, I mean its lighter and stronger than Everything, Everyone on Draftroom uses it?

Mondoth - May 31, 2010 08:29 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Google Rape @ May 31 2010, 02:03 AM)
OK then explain me how to make it better!


Nuke it and start over from scratch.

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I read all the Threads about SDN and took all best Ideas, why is it still wrong?


Because you don't understand what any of those ideas are and are just throwing around buzzwords without any understanding.

An excel spreadsheet could design a more plausible ship than you.

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And why cant it be constructed


Because the physical dimensions of this ship cannot contain all of the crap you've put in it. Unless this is actually a TARDIS, in which case you should make that more clear, and move it over to future-tech.

However, even if it were possible to fit everything onto this ship, there is no conceivable reason to actually do so.

Also, that is not actually how super-cavitation works, nor is that how super-cavitating counter-torpedo guns work

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isnt Honeycomb Titanium the strongest Metal on Earth,


No it isn't.

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I mean its lighter and stronger than Everything,


No it isn't

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Everyone on Draftroom uses it?


No they don't.

m@ - May 31, 2010 11:00 AM (GMT)
The basic design is not flawed. To put 4 60cm cannons on a 180kt ship is not impossible but it is
(1) undesirable
(2) not possible with the amount of other ordnance present.

Killroy Class SDNV is a very revolutionary Design and it owes that to advanced Science and Technology brought forward by Google. Several Years ago, Google Scientists made an amazing Discovery. Using Google Scholar Services, they found a new Titanium Alloy, Ti-10V-2Fe-3Al, also known as Ti-10-2-3. It turned out to be one of the strongest of all Titanium Alloys and both lighter and stronger in any Applications than all other Metals except for Honeycomb Titanium.
Because it is generally very rare in the World, almost no one knows about it, but Google Rape got lucky. Upon the Discovery, millions of search Teams, armed with gPhone 700, rigorously searched all available Territories using Google Maps, and vast deposits of Ti-10V-2Fe-3Al were found in Google Rape. Since then, almost Everything in Google Rape is being made of this amazing Metal.


So you invented a metal? I don't think so. Whatever this new wave of new NSers like Dinosians believe, inventing materials that do not presently exist is strictly non-MT. You can not say "We invented a metal nobody knows about and it's also the best metal in the world." Anyway, titanium is not a win-all metal. It does have very specific advantages over steel but it is also much more expensive which is why it's ordinarily used in important areas of ships that are necessary and have to be protected from seawater, i.e. titanium.

The problem with your design as shown is that there is no space for other systems to operate. Look at this cutaway of Future Surface Combatant: http://navy-matters.beedall.com/imagesbig/fsc-cut.jpg

You will see that very little of the ship is actually consumed by her weapons systems. Most of it is taken up by systems used to support the ship and the crew. You see, a warship is not just guns on floating metal. It is firstly a ship that must contain the fuel and supplies to operate at the specified ranges with the specified crew members. Only then may it contain weaponry, not the other way round.

Nobody really uses honeycomb designs any more because of the amount of internal space they take up (I believe that was the reason for abandoning them; obviously not everyone understood this and just followed suit) and also because there are better ways to design armour.

The problem with this design is:
(1) Too many weapons on too small a platform. 108 CIWS? Really? Just because you can cram it on a shipbucket design it does not make it legitimate.
(2) The metal/hull issue.
(3) The complement. Wth. Automation exists but does not mean a 180kt warship can be handled by like 10 men. Who goes around and fills up the CIWS ammunition? What happens if one small part on one end of the ship breaks, and the same happens on the other? How does damage control operate?

Google Rape: I really hate to be all Nazi, but really, learn proper capitalisation.

Also, hmm, I'm not sure a 180kt ship can really be called a SD, although that's your preference I suppose. And you know, even if this ship was properly designed, it would be pointless because I could sink it with a handful of large SSMs.

Try and make a more conventional battleship first before starting off with a wacky design.

m@ - May 31, 2010 11:15 AM (GMT)
Also, you read all the threads on "SDs"? Rly?

"That then, is the design layout of the belt armour – the next most important is the actual makeup of the armour itself. Materialwise, the best material is steel. There is no substitute – the age of foam and fire extinguisher and all sorts of materials as part of armour layers is no longer. Titanium isn’t great – while it may be light, it also sets fire, and in any case isn’t as durable under the stress of a missile attack as correctly formed steel, which is the point of armour. If you want to design your armour to set alight when a missile explodes rather than penetrating it, thats your choice, but steel is the best material. Tungsten is extremely expensive and is best used in transverse beams to hold up the ship, as I would think it would be far too expensive for longitudinals and perhaps it has a use in TBds, but I personally would just stick to steel. The Japanese used NVNC – New Vickers Non-Cemented, for most of their steel, the Americans used STS (Standard Steel, I think), the British cemented and HT, and the Germans used Wh and Ww (No idea what this is) and Krupp Cemented. It appears that cemented armour is only used on barbettes and in some ships, the deck armour or most things horizontal. I discovered that there was actually a historical KNC armour – Krupp Nickel Something, so for the record “KNC” in my designs stands for Kure Naval Composite, not whatever the German Navy used : P. In conclusion, Cemented (carbonised, basically) and non-cemented steel should make up the vast majority of your armour, not titanium and tungsten composites or alloys and mixtures of foam and whatnot – battleships armour is designed to take hits like a wall, not be soft and bendy like a pillow. Also, if you need to use wood, teak is an extremely strong wood – I have heard that when they tried to look inside the Bismarck in 2001, they had to get special equipment to cut through the teak, so that stuff is strong as hell (obviously not strong enough to take missile hits – its not 1805 ; ))"

Lamoni - May 31, 2010 11:23 AM (GMT)
Google Rape: http://www.stainless-steel-world.net/titan...aspx?pageID=177

Ti-10V-2Fe-3Al already exists.

M@: That said, I very much doubt that he "invented" it. I seem to remember using it in one or more of my own designs. Or at least considering it.

m@ - May 31, 2010 11:40 AM (GMT)
Well if it already exists it's fairly obvious that he didn't invent it, yes. What I might said might be more abstractedly taken to mean that theoretically invented metals are not acceptable, not that this particular metal is not possible.

Lamoni - May 31, 2010 12:01 PM (GMT)
In that case, I agree.

Google Rape - May 31, 2010 12:18 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (m@ @ May 31 2010, 12:00 PM)
Killroy Class SDNV is a very revolutionary Design and it owes that to advanced Science and Technology brought forward by Google. Several Years ago, Google Scientists made an amazing Discovery. Using Google Scholar Services, they found a new Titanium Alloy, Ti-10V-2Fe-3Al, also known as Ti-10-2-3. It turned out to be one of the strongest of all Titanium Alloys and both lighter and stronger in any Applications than all other Metals except for Honeycomb Titanium.
Because it is generally very rare in the World, almost no one knows about it, but Google Rape got lucky. Upon the Discovery, millions of search Teams, armed with gPhone 700, rigorously searched all available Territories using Google Maps, and vast deposits of Ti-10V-2Fe-3Al were found in Google Rape. Since then, almost Everything in Google Rape is being made of this amazing Metal.


So you invented a metal? I don't think so. Whatever this new wave of new NSers like Dinosians believe, inventing materials that do not presently exist is strictly non-MT. You can not say "We invented a metal nobody knows about and it's also the best metal in the world." 

No we didnt invent it we just found it using Google. Ti-10V-2Fe-3Al is a MT Metal it exists and its great, it has over 1300 Megapascal tensile Strength! I saw it used in NS. But they dont use it in the Reality very often, I dont know why, probably its very rare, or maybe Designers in Reality dont know about it.
And so we found vast Deposits of it and now we can use it for Everything.


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Anyway, titanium is not a win-all metal. It does have very specific advantages over steel but it is also much more expensive which is why it's ordinarily used in important areas of ships that are necessary and have to be protected from seawater

Yes I know Titanium is expensive but its at most 30$ per kg that makes 5400000000 still less than the Ship costs. OK thats too much yes but we have vast Deposits.


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(3) The complement. Wth. Automation exists but does not mean a 180kt warship can be handled by like 10 men. Who goes around and fills up the CIWS ammunition? What happens if one small part on one end of the ship breaks, and the same happens on the other? How does damage control operate?

I dont know maybe its all Insides are filled with CIWS Ammunition so you never need to reload it? Also not Men but Androids.

Its built entirely of CIWS so theres Nothing much to break, if one CIWS breaks there are many others. Well not entirely. It is built of 35% Ti-10V-2Fe-3Al, 35% Honeycomb Titanium and 30% CIWS.

And we dont need to control Damage because of all the CIWS it cant be damaged other than by Guns and it has bigger Guns than anything in same Size Class.


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The problem with this design is:
(1) Too many weapons on too small a platform. 108 CIWS? Really? Just because you can cram it on a shipbucket design it does not make it legitimate.

Ah OK I understand but the more CIWS the better so I went through maximum Effort to put as many as I could. I seen others do it like add Shelves and such and took it to next Level.


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Also, hmm, I'm not sure a 180kt ship can really be called a SD, although that's your preference I suppose. And you know, even if this ship was properly designed, it would be pointless because I could sink it with a handful of large SSMs.

Thats why it has so many CIWS, many CIWS means Missiles cant hit. The entire Skin consists all of CIWS I couldnt show it well but its so, nothing exposed and you cant hit CIWS with Missiles!

m@ - May 31, 2010 01:02 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Google Rape @ May 31 2010, 12:18 PM)
QUOTE (m@ @ May 31 2010, 12:00 PM)
Killroy Class SDNV is a very revolutionary Design and it owes that to advanced Science and Technology brought forward by Google. Several Years ago, Google Scientists made an amazing Discovery. Using Google Scholar Services, they found a new Titanium Alloy, Ti-10V-2Fe-3Al, also known as Ti-10-2-3. It turned out to be one of the strongest of all Titanium Alloys and both lighter and stronger in any Applications than all other Metals except for Honeycomb Titanium.
Because it is generally very rare in the World, almost no one knows about it, but Google Rape got lucky. Upon the Discovery, millions of search Teams, armed with gPhone 700, rigorously searched all available Territories using Google Maps, and vast deposits of Ti-10V-2Fe-3Al were found in Google Rape. Since then, almost Everything in Google Rape is being made of this amazing Metal.


So you invented a metal? I don't think so. Whatever this new wave of new NSers like Dinosians believe, inventing materials that do not presently exist is strictly non-MT. You can not say "We invented a metal nobody knows about and it's also the best metal in the world." 

No we didnt invent it we just found it using Google. Ti-10V-2Fe-3Al is a MT Metal it exists and its great, it has over 1300 Megapascal tensile Strength! I saw it used in NS. But they dont use it in the Reality very often, I dont know why, probably its very rare, or maybe Designers in Reality dont know about it.
And so we found vast Deposits of it and now we can use it for Everything.


QUOTE
Anyway, titanium is not a win-all metal. It does have very specific advantages over steel but it is also much more expensive which is why it's ordinarily used in important areas of ships that are necessary and have to be protected from seawater

Yes I know Titanium is expensive but its at most 30$ per kg that makes 5400000000 still less than the Ship costs. OK thats too much yes but we have vast Deposits.


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(3) The complement. Wth. Automation exists but does not mean a 180kt warship can be handled by like 10 men. Who goes around and fills up the CIWS ammunition? What happens if one small part on one end of the ship breaks, and the same happens on the other? How does damage control operate?

I dont know maybe its all Insides are filled with CIWS Ammunition so you never need to reload it? Also not Men but Androids.

Its built entirely of CIWS so theres Nothing much to break, if one CIWS breaks there are many others. Well not entirely. It is built of 35% Ti-10V-2Fe-3Al, 35% Honeycomb Titanium and 30% CIWS.

And we dont need to control Damage because of all the CIWS it cant be damaged other than by Guns and it has bigger Guns than anything in same Size Class.


QUOTE
The problem with this design is:
(1) Too many weapons on too small a platform. 108 CIWS? Really? Just because you can cram it on a shipbucket design it does not make it legitimate.

Ah OK I understand but the more CIWS the better so I went through maximum Effort to put as many as I could. I seen others do it like add Shelves and such and took it to next Level.


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Also, hmm, I'm not sure a 180kt ship can really be called a SD, although that's your preference I suppose. And you know, even if this ship was properly designed, it would be pointless because I could sink it with a handful of large SSMs.

Thats why it has so many CIWS, many CIWS means Missiles cant hit. The entire Skin consists all of CIWS I couldnt show it well but its so, nothing exposed and you cant hit CIWS with Missiles!

If some kid on the internet can find it using a search engine I'm quite sure that real life maritime engineers and material engineers would know about it. The reason it isn't used in real life is because the price is not worth the cost, i.e. the % increase in effect of titanium is not greater than the % increase in price.

I don't think you quite understand what the inside of a ship looks like. I advise you to look up cross-sectional drawings of warships and to take note of all the non-combat elements in the ship that are required for its day to day running. I have a ton on paper that I might be able to upload. You are missing the point here: you need men to run a vessel. Automation works only to an extent because it needs men to maintain it. Men need places to live, food to eat, so on and so forth. They need heating, electrics, showers, etc etc. And the longer you want your ship to be able to operate on the high seas the more space you're going to have to allocate to this sort of thing.

I don't really understand this at all. CIWS are totally unprotected; if a missile hits them they will blow up like anything else. I don't know where you get these following assertions from:
1. "Because of CIWS it can't be damaged other than by guns"
2. "You can't hit CIWS with missiles"

It is a basic rule of surface to air warfare that there is no such thing as a 100% kill rate rate on equal odds.

It's true that a theoretically infinite amount of protection would make something invincible, but this is a comparative trade off. Every time you put more of something on a ship with a set tonnage, you have to take something off. The price you will pay for 108 CIWS on a 180kt hullform is frankly the inability to leave port. If one thing on your ship breaks, you are fucked.

The number one reason why ships are lost at sea is not impact, but failure to control damage. Fire and hull damage that are not properly controlled by damage control crew are the no. 1 cause of ships being sunk. You have 11 crew men. How you expect to run the automation of a 180,000 ton ship and control damage at the same time is beyond me. One hit, from anything, a shell or a missile will make your vessel inoperable.

Precisely which "threads about SDs" did you read?

Praetonia - May 31, 2010 01:26 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (m@ @ May 31 2010, 01:02 PM)
I don't really understand this at all. CIWS are totally unprotected; if a missile hits them they will blow up like anything else. I don't know where you get these following assertions from:
1. "Because of CIWS it can't be damaged other than by guns"
2. "You can't hit CIWS with missiles"

It is a basic rule of surface to air warfare that there is no such thing as a 100% kill rate rate on equal odds.

This is what justified SDs originally, but the logic doesn't really stack up. For one thing, shells are much larger, slower, and follow more predictable paths than missiles, so being invulnerable to missiles doesn't mean still vulnerable to shells, it means being invulnerable to everything. Missiles will have worse interception rates than shells, all else being equal.

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The price you will pay for 108 CIWS on a 180kt hullform is frankly the inability to leave port. If one thing on your ship breaks, you are fucked.

He seems to be saying the hull is actually made of CIWS, presumably a material even stronger than honeycombed titanium nanotubes.

Erid'Lor - May 31, 2010 01:35 PM (GMT)
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And so we found vast Deposits of it and now we can use it for Everything.


How convenient.

In other news,

KILL IT! KILL IT WITH FIRE!

No, seriously. This thing is ridiculous. You keep at it despite Matt, one of the most senior of naval designers on NSD telling you (among numerous, numerous qualified others) it won't work.

Big bold letters... THIS THING DOESN'T WORK. You pretty much need to redesign this COMPLETELY, from the ground up. In fact, Super Dreadnoughts aren't used on NS much anymore... hell, battleships aren't used much anymore. Link To Random Somewhat Related Sticky

Google Rape - May 31, 2010 04:07 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (m@ @ May 31 2010, 02:02 PM)
Precisely which "threads about SDs" did you read?
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You have 11 crew men. How you expect to run the automation of a 180,000 ton ship and control damage at the same time is beyond me. One hit, from anything, a shell or a missile will make your vessel inoperable.

Yes I know I have 11 Crew Men here is what I did
Hood has 7000 Skeleton Crew for displacement of 21,275,700 Ton that makes 0.000329 Skeleton Crew per Ton. I used Skeleton Crew because my Ship is very automated.

For my 182354.31 t that makes 60 Crew exactly. Then I decided my Automation must be better than Hood even at Skeleton Crew, since my Ship runs Android 2.2 OS and Hood only mentions some automatic Sprinklers. So I halved it and that makes 30. Then because we are populated by Androids who dont sleep eat or drink they dont have Shifts and so I reduced it to 10. Then added the Captain.


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Every time you put more of something on a ship with a set tonnage, [b]you have to take something off.

Yes I took off Crew Quarters and also used Titanium.

Mistalinam - May 31, 2010 04:23 PM (GMT)
user posted image


IT DOESNT WORK LIKE THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sunstar60 - May 31, 2010 05:59 PM (GMT)
Google, just stop arguing.....

Cuk - May 31, 2010 06:45 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Google Rape @ May 30 2010, 03:58 PM)
Killroy Class SDNV (Super Dread Naught Versatile)



Looks like some kind of a militant gay parade dildo.

EDIT: Also GRape, seriously stop the mindless rant for a second and think, this ship is ridiculously implausible and impractical.

Satirius - May 31, 2010 08:02 PM (GMT)
GRape=NSD Kalasparata

no endorse - May 31, 2010 08:53 PM (GMT)
lol

m@ - May 31, 2010 09:55 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Google Rape @ May 31 2010, 04:07 PM)
QUOTE (m@ @ May 31 2010, 02:02 PM)
Precisely which "threads about SDs" did you read?
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You have 11 crew men. How you expect to run the automation of a 180,000 ton ship and control damage at the same time is beyond me. One hit, from anything, a shell or a missile will make your vessel inoperable.

Yes I know I have 11 Crew Men here is what I did
Hood has 7000 Skeleton Crew for displacement of 21,275,700 Ton that makes 0.000329 Skeleton Crew per Ton. I used Skeleton Crew because my Ship is very automated.

For my 182354.31 t that makes 60 Crew exactly. Then I decided my Automation must be better than Hood even at Skeleton Crew, since my Ship runs Android 2.2 OS and Hood only mentions some automatic Sprinklers. So I halved it and that makes 30. Then because we are populated by Androids who dont sleep eat or drink they dont have Shifts and so I reduced it to 10. Then added the Captain.


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Every time you put more of something on a ship with a set tonnage, [b]you have to take something off.

Yes I took off Crew Quarters and also used Titanium.

A modern battleship like Iowa has a 1,800 man complement and about 52,000 tons of weight. 0.0346 personnel per ton.

Your problem is looking at NS ships designed between three and an astonishing six years ago. We have learnt much since then; most of those ancient designs would need total rework or just abandoning because of their inaccuracy. I can tell you now that in the old days we vastly under-estimated the amount of crew necessary to man a superdreadnought.

At Iowa levels, your ship would need 5,200 personnel on board. At present it has space for 10. In other words, your vessel is 52,000% undermanned.

If we assume that you have vastly superior automation to Iowa -- let's say you can make your vessel twice as automated, you're still 26,000% undermanned, that is you need to clear 26,000x more space for crew than you presently do. But that's a fallacy. It's a nonsense. You do not achieve automation by just slotting in an OS.

However, you have seemed to claim that you are populated by androids who don't eat or sleep, so I'm going to go ahead and move this thread to FT since this is now an FT design.

sunstar60 - May 31, 2010 10:02 PM (GMT)
That facepalm photo is EPIC!!

Feazanthia - May 31, 2010 11:21 PM (GMT)
What the...

...wet navy...
...no surface-to-orbit weapons capability...
...ETC guns...

This is not FT! Get out!

Satirius - May 31, 2010 11:23 PM (GMT)
Propulsion by means of recoil not FT enough feaz

Feazanthia - May 31, 2010 11:24 PM (GMT)
Kill it with fire!

It uses pebblebeds for chrissake. Whoever moved this to FT is gonna get flogged.

Praetonia - May 31, 2010 11:25 PM (GMT)
It's crewed by robots.

But if you hadn't been paying attention, we're in paradies.

Feazanthia - May 31, 2010 11:26 PM (GMT)
KILL IT WITH FIYAH

Edit: It's not even a good parody. Be more subtle, man.

m@ - May 31, 2010 11:54 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Feazanthia @ May 31 2010, 11:24 PM)
Kill it with fire!

It uses pebblebeds for chrissake. Whoever moved this to FT is gonna get flogged.

O rly?

It is manned by robots and thusly does not belong in our MT realm. Why can't there be wet ships in FT? Do you not have water or something?

Google Rape - June 1, 2010 12:18 AM (GMT)
m@ no there wont Everyone will be using Flying Subs.

OK, for all you Spacemen, here is the Space Version.



Killroy Class SSDNV (Super Space Dread Naught Versatile) IN SPACE
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Killroy Class SSDNV (Super Space Dread Naught Versatile) IN SPACE

Specifications

Type: Super Space Dread Naught Versatile
Role: Space Dominance
Displacement (Full): 182,354.31 Star Tons
Length: (Overall): 341.77 Star Miles
Beam: (Overall): 61.95 Star Miles
Height: 17.81 Star Miles
Propulsion: 3 x Space Honeycomb Titanium Antimatter Queen Sized Bed Reactor
2 x Tritanium Space Boilers
4 x Tritanium Space Shafts
4 x Honeycomb Tritanium Space Propellers
Fuel: 15,000 Star Tons of Space Honey
Power: 9,600 Terawatt
Flank Speed: 60 Parsecs per Hour
Cruise Speed: 15 Parsecs per Hour
Range: 1,000,000 Parsecs
Armament: 4 x 600 Star Inches Electro Thermo Chemical Liquid Propellant Successive Charge Rarefaction Wave Ramjet Assisted Mass Driver
Countermeasures: 108 x Space CIWS
22 x Subspace CIWS
Protection: 371.78 Star Inches Space Honeycomb Titanium Armour Belt
239.14 Star Inches Space Honeycomb Tritanium Armour Deck
Complement: 1 Captain, 1 Officers, 1 Spaceman
Sensors: Space RADAR, Space LIDAR, Space SONAR
Spacecraft: none
Cost: 100 Star Credits

History

Since its move to Space, Google Rape needed a Starfleet, and Killroy Class SSDNV is the Design that answers this Need. Killroy Class SDNV is a Super Space Dread Naught Versatile Ship, which means it has more Mass Drivers and more Battle Power than any other Spaceship in the Google Starfleet.

Killroy Class SDNV is a very revolutionary Design and it owes that to advanced Science and Technology brought forward by Google.

Several Years ago, Google Scientists made an amazing Discovery. Using Google Search, they discovered a new Species: Space Bees. These Space Bees roamed the vast expanses of Space, Subspace, Hyperspace and Quasispace, collecting Interstellar Matter and converting it into Titanium. Then they used this Titanium to build Honeycombs in their Hives. These Honeycombs turned out to be made of the strongest form of Titanium ever discovered, 10 times stronger than any other Titanium Alloy and 3 times stronger than Tritanium.

Because it is generally very rare in the Galaxy, almost no one knows about it, but Google Rape got lucky. Upon the Discovery, millions of search Teams, armed with Space Phone 7000, rigorously searched all available Quadrants using Google Space Maps. This Search was fruitful, as vast numbers of Space Bee Hives were found in Google Rape's Sector of the Galaxy! Since then, Everything in Google Rape is made of the amazing Space Honeycomb Titanium.

Power and Armament

Since there are way too many Missiles in Space today, Killroy Class SSDNV had to protect against them. To do that, Killroy Class SSDNV is built entirely of Space Honeycomb Titanium Frame and then coated with a thick layer of Space CIWS.

If it takes Damage, 200 additional Spray Cans of top grade Space CIWS are available onboard.

Since it has to operate many Parsecs from Homeworld, Killroy Class SSDNV uses Antimatter Power, with three Queen Sized Bed Reactors running on Space Honey.

Automation

Because Killroy Class SSDNV is an Antimatter Ship, its Computers must be protected against Effects of Annihilation. So conventional Optronic Computers would be too vulnerable. In Order to overcome that, Killroy Class SSDNV uses a humongous Mechanical Computer. This Computer is built entirely of Space Honeycomb Titanium and is overclocked when entering Combat.

Advanced Automation brought forward by the Multitasking Features of Google Android OS 123.6 and incredible Reliability of the Mechanical Computer have another great Side Effect, as they allow to reduce the Crew.

Since it was discovered that the Stingers of Space Bees can accelerate one by as much as 1000 times, Killroy Class SSDNV only has 3 Men onboard. Namely, the Captain gives the Orders, the Officer puts a Space Bee Stinger into the Spaceman's Ass, and the Spaceman does all the Work.


Performance

Subspace Supergravitating CIWS offer great Protection, but because of their Space Drag, the Killroy Class SSDNV only cruises at 15 Parsecs per Hour. But by firing all the Subspace Supergravitating CIWS with special Space Honeycomb Titanium Supergravitation Generation Rounds, a sufficient amount of Supergravitation is created to make the entire Ship supergravitate. That way, it can reach speeds as great as 60 Parsecs per Hour.

The powerful long range Mass Drivers give Killroy Class SSDNV the Power truly deserving of a Super Space Dread Naught. It may be slower than other Spaceships, but it is fast when it matters, and because it can not be destroyed with Star Missiles, Star Torpedoes or Star Fighters, the Killroy Class SSDNV can always reach its Target and destroy it with a powerful Broadside Mass Driver Barrage.

This ensures that Killroy Class SSDNV will remain the most formidable Space Dominance Combatant throughout the Thirty First Century.

Erid'Lor - June 1, 2010 01:13 AM (GMT)
Although by now it's fairly obvious that "Google Rape" isn't Google Rape but a troll (who's probably Prae, considering that post about "paradies")... I had to laugh at what's been done to make it "spaceworthy".

Space RADAR! Space SONAR! Space LIDAR! LMAO

Satirius - June 1, 2010 01:36 AM (GMT)
Dat super battleship yamato aesthetic

sunstar60 - June 1, 2010 02:32 AM (GMT)
Last I checked, screws don't work in space....




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