Title: S-114
Great Valencia - December 26, 2010 04:19 PM (GMT)

Rate of Fire: 75 RPM
Magazine: 10 Rounds
Effective Range: 3,100 M
Semi-Automatic
Price per gun: $1,000 NSD
This time, I admit that this is a bit horrible. Now, Im actually ASKING YOU for help with this. Before you go on about the writeup, Im re-doing my entire storefront with writeups, more realistic stats and such. As you can see, I'm missing quite a few stats, that's where you come in. I originally had a .30 caliber bullet, but was told that would not work. Before you go on about bullet drop, wind speed, wind direction, etc etc, that awesome little scope up there calculates that for you. We call it an automatic scope, it locks onto a target, calculates everything, then tell you where to aim; assuming the target continues on that course.
Yes, I know theres no bolt there and the magazine looks off, as well as the barrel, but those are minor screwups.
Bloody_Sahara - December 26, 2010 04:57 PM (GMT)
Where are the batteries for this scope? include in your writeup.
What action does it use? the same as the sr-25 you've apparently based it on? write it up.
wait a minute. the scope calculates wind speed and tells you where to aim? so there's like a computer hiding on the other side of the gun, and it's a thermal scope? (not that calculating bullet drop is impossible. but locking on and stuff isn't really done with small arm scopes)
Andorianus\Dystopianus - December 26, 2010 06:43 PM (GMT)
4500 meters is just way too much, GV. Not a single man-portable system reaches that far, in fact most IFV and tank guns don't even reach 4 km.
With the bipod leaning on the barrel, accuracy will be limited because the barrel goes upwards a bit. It's just a minor thing really, but it can affect your aim. I suggest putting it on the tacrails, so you can remove it when desired.
What calibre does it use? This is a vital stat.
How are you planning to do that whole calculating scope? It sounds horribly complicated and I doubt it would work. It's more like the sci-fi stuff.
Still needs a lot of work, but I sure hope this works out for you, GV. If it does, you finally got a good system. That will compensate for the less successful designs you posted before on NSD.
Bloody_Sahara - December 26, 2010 07:25 PM (GMT)
also, find lyras's ly21 page and figure out at least all the information on his statblock. but you'll still need a proper write-up after that.
Decide on a action for it.
Maybe you need some information?
How an ar-15 works (direct impingement)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSqYvWib1ogHow an acr works: (short stroke gas piston)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WP9i2ADdiQAHow an ak47 works (long stroke gas piston)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sNDTdKQNVU&feature=relatedhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z29pmY9SKQMI strongly recommend using one of those actions, they're quite simple.
Ekraysia - December 26, 2010 07:34 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Great Valencia @ Dec 26 2010, 04:19 PM) |
| Before you go on about bullet drop, wind speed, wind direction, etc etc, that awesome little scope up there calculates that for you. We call it an automatic scope, it locks onto a target, calculates everything, then tell you where to aim; assuming the target continues on that course. |
o rly
Great Valencia - December 26, 2010 07:50 PM (GMT)
I was hoping someone here could tell me the correct bullet caliber, and I will shorten it down to say, 3350 meters? Keep In mind that Im PMT.
Ill put the mount on the rail, I dont know why I keep putting it on the barrels...
The scope is just on there, Im not making a writeup for that specific thing. It's already in service and used on every sniper we have, it's very sensitive so it can calculate all that stuff.
@Bloody Sahara;
It doesn't technically "lock on", it just finds the target you aim at, and then calculates where you need to aim.
Great Valencia - December 26, 2010 07:57 PM (GMT)
Updated picture and range; I know the barrel is disconnected but... screw it
EDIT: Fixed barrel
EDIT2: I know the bipod looks weird, but let's just pretend that it belongs there... :shoop:
Bloody_Sahara - December 26, 2010 09:01 PM (GMT)
okay... you can't determine effective range without knowing the round...
Purpelia - December 26, 2010 11:25 PM (GMT)
Also, how does the scope know about the wind speed and other factors?
I mean, is there like a small wetter station hiding inside that thing?
Boreal Tundra - December 26, 2010 11:51 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Great Valencia @ Dec 26 2010, 08:50 PM) |
| I was hoping someone here could tell me the correct bullet caliber, and I will shorten it down to say, 3350 meters? Keep In mind that Im PMT. |
Until you're shooting energy pulses/beams in FT ballistics and physics aren't going to change. 12.7x99mm or similar large calibre match rounds will give 1500-2000m tops.
| QUOTE |
The scope is just on there, Im not making a writeup for that specific thing. It's already in service and used on every sniper we have, it's very sensitive so it can calculate all that stuff.
@Bloody Sahara; It doesn't technically "lock on", it just finds the target you aim at, and then calculates where you need to aim. |
How does "it" find the target? Assuming the sniper finds the target and then it does it's calculations,... Where does the data come from? Snipers check wind speed/direction at multiple locations to the target using "rule of thumb" estimations. Even with those ballistic calculators Chey-Tac sells with their system, the data has to be input from somewhere, somehow.
no endorse - December 26, 2010 11:55 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Great Valencia @ Dec 26 2010, 03:50 PM) |
| I was hoping someone here could tell me the correct bullet caliber, and I will shorten it down to say, 3350 meters? Keep In mind that Im PMT. |
Last I heard, PMT is hardly an excuse to claim whatever number sounds good.
Ballistics is ballistics is ballistics. Effective ranges of over 2000m are unlikely, and most snipers can't take full advantage of these ranges to begin with.
Purpelia - December 26, 2010 11:55 PM (GMT)
Well, presumably finding a target would be like say integrating a laser range finder into the thing or something.
But that is the easy part. And it's not so much of a lock on target as it is giving the computer an idea of the range to it.
Pres. Kalashnikov - December 27, 2010 12:07 AM (GMT)
I'd use the Barrett Optical Ranging System (BORS) as a ''range finder'' which costs... well, in the 10,000s of dollars but attaches to the top of a scope and using a computer, accurately gives ranges in (I believe) meters. Might be wrong on some points.
Rich and Corporations - December 27, 2010 12:27 AM (GMT)
Quite clearly he uses a sophisticated gyrojet design utilizing depleted uranium, fusion ramjets, and handwavium as part of it's design.
Great Valencia - December 27, 2010 01:27 AM (GMT)
Never mind the bloody scope, I wanted help with the gun itself.
That's why I hate coming here; good day.
Satirius - December 27, 2010 02:17 AM (GMT)
Well to be honest you need to see at the 3 kilometers (lol mortar range) and the scope is a vital tool (tool as in implement, not tool as in you). Forgive us for questioning how the fuck you're going to see that far to make a shot in the first place.
Most standard caliber rifles cap at eight hundred meters, and most high-caliber rifles are between 1 and 2 kilometers (see NTW-20). You're going to have to actually think (I know, it's not something you do often) to make it work.
Ender - December 27, 2010 02:30 AM (GMT)
I would shorten the max range and would go for a .338 lapua mag or a .300 Winchester mag for the heavy end. unless of course you want limited anti-material capabilities.
Bloody_Sahara - December 27, 2010 03:25 AM (GMT)
i must agree with everything said above; what about it gives it it's rremarkable range and its scope it's computing powers? do you have an iphone attached?
CuriousCatgirl - December 27, 2010 03:31 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Rich and Corporations @ Dec 27 2010, 01:27 AM) |
| Quite clearly he uses a sophisticated gyrojet design utilizing depleted uranium, fusion ramjets, and handwavium as part of it's design. |
Chromium, too.
Boreal Tundra - December 27, 2010 05:01 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Great Valencia @ Dec 27 2010, 02:27 AM) |
Never mind the bloody scope, I wanted help with the gun itself.
That's why I hate coming here; good day. |
You don't like that we're trying to make the whole system better rather than ignore the problems with the scope so you can have a lulz scope on a good rifle,...
Yeah OK, whatever, good day to you too.
Minnysota - December 27, 2010 05:30 AM (GMT)
Guys, I'm trying to talk to GV via TG to get him to cooperate. If you do want to help him, I suggest you don't act like total dicks to him (doesn't mean you have to be all nice and shit, but like the stuff on the Talaskin destroyer thread).
Crookfur - December 27, 2010 11:51 AM (GMT)
Well the scope thign is a none issue as it can be done. Basically its the XM-25 sight with a gyroscopic (well motion sensor based) lead predictor built in and it really should be in its own write up.
Now to the rifle there are a couple of thigns you need to think about:
1. What is PMT about the rifle? Does it use normal ammunition but is built out of fantastic PMT materials? Does it have soem kind of super cartridge i.e. is it casless, cased telescoped, some kind of well controleld propellant burn or does it even have propellant i.e. is it a rail/coil gun
2. Leaving aside the first question the next question is the intended role: is it a "normal" sniper/precision rifle i.e. nicely accurate out to 1000m and farily light, is it a long range anti personnel rifle ie about 1500-1600m range, a very long range precision rifle i.e. 2000m range or is it an antimaterial rifle i.e. 1500-2000m range with big stonking rounds fired from a big stonking gun.
As to calibre recommendations for the above there is plenthy of potential cross over but rough (very rough) sizes would be as follows:
Sniper rifle: 6-8mm
Long rnage anti personnel rifle: 8-9mm
Very long range rifle: 9-12mm
Anti amterial 12-20mm
once you have the above sorted you can start to think about the design requirments and how they are going to impact the design of the rifle itself particularly in regard to operating mechanism etc.
Now obviously you have more or less side stepped this a bit by presenting an image of a semi autoamtic rifle so next you need to start thinkign about what kind of semi autoamtic mechanism you want to use. pretty much all of the current mechanisms have been used in some kind ofsniper rifle so the choice really is yours.
As to stat block I would of course suggest mine over Lyras's mainly due to my issues with people including muzzle velocity figures.
My stat block is as follows with examples from my SX27 sniper rifle:
Round: 8x63mm CFC
Barrel length: 800mm
Rifle twist: 1/10inchs
Overall length: 1360mm
Weight (gun empty, without scope): 6.1kg
Magazine capacity: 10 rounds
Fire modes: bolt action
Features: Adjustable stock with rear support, S-RIS, high efficiency muzzle break.
Ekraysia - December 27, 2010 02:16 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Great Valencia @ Dec 27 2010, 01:27 AM) |
Never mind the bloody scope, I wanted help with the gun itself.
That's why I hate coming here; good day. |
Honestly, What The Fuck Do You Expect?
We tell you to be realistic because you use PMT to claim whatever you damn well please and then you storm off.
Don't be such as asinine self-righteous moron, or GTFO.
Calbaria - December 27, 2010 09:42 PM (GMT)
btw whats with the 75 rpms? is it automatic? if so, why such a slow rate of fire?
Colosseum - December 27, 2010 10:38 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Great Valencia @ Dec 26 2010, 07:27 PM) |
Never mind the bloody scope, I wanted help with the gun itself.
That's why I hate coming here; good day. |
good go away and do not come back you fucking retard