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BMP/BMPT, Crazy Combination Car| Kyiv |
Posted: Aug 8 2012, 06:17 PM
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This + This + This A heavy IFV with a cannon of some sort in a remote turret, two AGL's and two side mounted MG's. This came to me when I was looking at different BMPT concepts and realized the ability of the pictured vehicle to engage multiple targets all around wasn't that different from the original intent of IFV's; and the squad provided enough gunners that engaging ~5 different targets simultaneously wasn't a big deal. Obviously it would lose it's hull weapons when the squad dismounted. But then the dismounts would be engaging enemy infantry. --------------------
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| Samozaryadnyastan |
Posted: Aug 8 2012, 06:53 PM
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I'm personally sketchy about the worth of hull firing ports on the move.
If you've broken down or become stuck, sure, but if you've let enemy infantry get close enough to need them, you're probably already dead. -------------------- One day, I will actually know what the fuck I'm talking about. Samozniy Military Industries Starting alliances and ending wars since 2011.
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| Allanea |
Posted: Aug 8 2012, 07:37 PM
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 You have way too much time on your hands ... Group: Moderators Posts: 3,729 Member No.: 88 Joined: 27-May 07 |
1. You're not 'already dead' as long as there's a man on board capable of pulling the trigger. Inquire into the Attack of the Dead. 2. Urban combat. Trench warfare. Ambushes. --------------------   "That's fucking epic!" ~~ Scandavian States, on my translations " Fucking awesome. Do more." ~~Questers, on my translations |
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| Kyiv |
Posted: Aug 8 2012, 08:29 PM
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My tank is umbrella! Group: Members Posts: 2,903 Member No.: 401 Joined: 3-June 08 |
What firing ports? I see no firing ports on any of the pictures I linked. --------------------
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| Purpelia |
Posted: Aug 8 2012, 10:02 PM
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So wait, you want a normal NS IFV with a remote controlled gun turret. But you also want to mount machine guns and grenade launchers on the side? Would this be something like the IFV version of those interwar many turreted heavy tanks? Or would it be something like the bow machine guns on the BMP-3.
-------------------- Official Representative of the Windir Design Bureau of the Purpelian Government.
The three glorious steps of our design process: Step 1 - The Great Leader draws a picture of what he wants and gives it to the designers with the words: "Make a good X out of this." Step 2 - The designers than go and do their best to make something that works and still looks mostly like what the Great Leader drew. Step 3 - Once finished with that, throw it away and make something that actually works. Always remember: The law is not law because it is just. The law is just because it is the law. Glory and Victory to the Arch Duchy! |
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| Kyiv |
Posted: Aug 8 2012, 10:09 PM
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My tank is umbrella! Group: Members Posts: 2,903 Member No.: 401 Joined: 3-June 08 |
Refer to the third picture.
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| Purpelia |
Posted: Aug 8 2012, 10:13 PM
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70% Armaments Designer Group: Members Posts: 1,409 Member No.: 1,014 Joined: 7-November 10 |
If your side mounting refers to the way that thing has firing ports on the side and you want the stick MG's in there. Since that's the image I am getting from your description. Won't mounting MG's in such places give them very bad elevation and sighting capabilities?
-------------------- Official Representative of the Windir Design Bureau of the Purpelian Government.
The three glorious steps of our design process: Step 1 - The Great Leader draws a picture of what he wants and gives it to the designers with the words: "Make a good X out of this." Step 2 - The designers than go and do their best to make something that works and still looks mostly like what the Great Leader drew. Step 3 - Once finished with that, throw it away and make something that actually works. Always remember: The law is not law because it is just. The law is just because it is the law. Glory and Victory to the Arch Duchy! |
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| Kyiv |
Posted: Aug 8 2012, 11:14 PM
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My tank is umbrella! Group: Members Posts: 2,903 Member No.: 401 Joined: 3-June 08 |
Didn't I just say those aren't gunports? They are stabilized remote mountings.
Yes they have limited fire arcs, but they are only meant to cover a limited sector. --------------------
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| Purpelia |
Posted: Aug 9 2012, 11:50 AM
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70% Armaments Designer Group: Members Posts: 1,409 Member No.: 1,014 Joined: 7-November 10 |
Where would those be mounted on and how? I am having a hard time picturing it? On the roof? Sponsons?
-------------------- Official Representative of the Windir Design Bureau of the Purpelian Government.
The three glorious steps of our design process: Step 1 - The Great Leader draws a picture of what he wants and gives it to the designers with the words: "Make a good X out of this." Step 2 - The designers than go and do their best to make something that works and still looks mostly like what the Great Leader drew. Step 3 - Once finished with that, throw it away and make something that actually works. Always remember: The law is not law because it is just. The law is just because it is the law. Glory and Victory to the Arch Duchy! |
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| Samozaryadnyastan |
Posted: Aug 9 2012, 12:08 PM
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I felt it was implied in your actual post. -------------------- One day, I will actually know what the fuck I'm talking about. Samozniy Military Industries Starting alliances and ending wars since 2011.
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| Falls |
Posted: Aug 9 2012, 03:24 PM
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you didnt look at his post at all...its wasnt even remotely implied. I mean it wasnt implied if you read the entire post. |
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| Samozaryadnyastan |
Posted: Aug 9 2012, 06:01 PM
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85% Armaments Designer Group: Members Posts: 1,701 Member No.: 1,101 Joined: 13-April 11 |
When I saw 'lose its hull weapons when the squad dismounted', it seemed to imply to me that the squad were taking them with them, further implying the use of firing ports. This clearly isn't the case. -------------------- One day, I will actually know what the fuck I'm talking about. Samozniy Military Industries Starting alliances and ending wars since 2011.
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| CuriousCatgirl |
Posted: Aug 9 2012, 08:39 PM
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The dismounts act as gunners while mounted. --------------------
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