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| Riemaia |
Posted: Oct 17 2011, 09:22 AM
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Riemaian Military Daily Rations
Overall Weight: ~1.15kg Base: 400g Pouch of Vegetables 100g Biscuit 2x Plastic Spoon Salt, Pepper, Ketchup packet 2x Sugar packets 50g pack of Jelly (Apple, Grape, Orange, or Peach) 1 Entree, Pouch (350-550g) 50g Dried fruit Flameless chemical heating pad 4x Napkins Coffee/Tea mix Brunch Menu (eaten seperately): Sausage Links (1,3,5) Chicken Strips (2,6) Eggs & Bacon (4,7,8) Main course: Macaroni & Cheese (1) Roast Goat & Gravy (2) Vegetable Stew (3) Spaghetti and Goat (4) Goatloaf (5) Goat and Pepper Chili (6) Chicken and Pepper Chili (7) Goatburger in a can! with fries too!!! (8) Goodies: (3 per ration, packed at random) Extra Coffee/Tea Mix Juice Mix (Grape, Orange, Apple) Condensed Goats Milk Candy bar Chewing gum Hot sauce 3cl Wine (white wine only) Trail mix Graham crackers (4x) Bag of hard candy, small Hard cheese Soy sauce Black bread & Tube of Vegemite (Everything needs more than region buddies to look over, so yea, its getting posted here!) Shelf Life: Sometime between now and three years! (30 months, should be possible) -------------------- Ya know, I never did claim to not be insane.....
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| Lamoni |
Posted: Oct 17 2011, 10:05 AM
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Looks good so far. Looking forward to a write-up, when you have the chance.
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| Munathanura |
Posted: Oct 17 2011, 10:56 AM
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If you don't mind me asking, why do you issue cans of water instead of bottles, canteens or even camelbaks? It seems to me that they would be handier than a can of water.
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| Forza |
Posted: Oct 17 2011, 12:01 PM
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What is the canned water used for exactly? Soldiers drink more than three times that per day; it seems such a little amount to have as drinking water.
-------------------- Qui Patitur Vincit - Who perseveres, conquers.
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| Riemaia |
Posted: Oct 17 2011, 05:49 PM
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The canned water is for a supplement to the canteen/camelbak, and yes bottled would make more sense... have to change that later.
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| Mazara Palani |
Posted: Oct 17 2011, 08:18 PM
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400g Can of Vegetables 100g Biscuit 2x Plastic Spoon Salt, Pepper, Ketchup packet 50g pack of Jelly (Apple, Jelly, Orange, or Peach) 1 Entree, Canned (350-550g) 50g Dried fruit Flameless chemical heating pad 4x Napkins Fixed it for you. You needed more micronutrients in the ration and you had too many carbohyrates relative to the amount of protein in the food. -------------------- 中国制造
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| Riemaia |
Posted: Oct 17 2011, 08:22 PM
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Thankyou thankyou! that works much better, i at least tried to get in all the food groups I just went ahead and changed the OP with that if thats fine -------------------- Ya know, I never did claim to not be insane.....
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| Falls |
Posted: Oct 24 2011, 08:38 PM
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http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/ind...topic=6914&st=0
Mine if you want to look it over for ideas, I know at least MP and I have spent a stupid amount of time on food. |
| mehditerreania |
Posted: Oct 26 2011, 01:35 AM
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I'm actually planning to design my own field rations, and there are two things that I'd like to know if they're practical:
-Doogh: a drink of yogurt, water and mint. It's similar to Yakult, if you've ever had that. Would this be an efficient source of dairy? -Lavashak: a pressed fruit roll made of plums. Very easy to make, can be dried and last for a long time. Would this be a good field ration? Sorry if this is a threadjack, thought it would be appropriate to post here while everyone's on the topic. -------------------- [18:02] <plae2> and tem is completely right
--- <tyre> tbh islolm isn't necessarily bad --- <Mist> i have never met anyone who can talk so endlessly about thing he knows nothing about --- <Temujinn> I have nodesire foryou to send me videos of under age shırtľess boys --- <Temujinn> Ive seen enough Hijabs hit the carpet to know Islam doesnt stop the Teenagers in heat --- <Allanea> LONG LIVE AHMADINEJAD <Allanea> DOWN WITH ZIONIST ENTITY |
| Falls |
Posted: Oct 26 2011, 05:06 AM
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For a field ration the issue is how perishable-- I dont how well doogh is going to keep, now obviously the field kitchen can have it available for regular mess, but as a pack ration not sure- can it be dehydrated and reconstituted? If you can give a doogh pouch mix then yeah should be good, I have had a similar drink by the way and the stuff is soo good, I assume the stuff that isnt sweet. A to the Lavashak - commonly called "Fruit leather" and its an excellent ration snack or accompaniment, I use it in mine. |
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| mehditerreania |
Posted: Oct 26 2011, 11:36 PM
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So...I should use the lavashak/fruit leather for field rations, but the doogh for mess hall? Sounds good.
I don't know if I'm talking out of my ass, but I've got this theory that soldiers should be given "health" foods while behind the lines and high-calorie ones in the field. Feedback on this idea? -------------------- [18:02] <plae2> and tem is completely right
--- <tyre> tbh islolm isn't necessarily bad --- <Mist> i have never met anyone who can talk so endlessly about thing he knows nothing about --- <Temujinn> I have nodesire foryou to send me videos of under age shırtľess boys --- <Temujinn> Ive seen enough Hijabs hit the carpet to know Islam doesnt stop the Teenagers in heat --- <Allanea> LONG LIVE AHMADINEJAD <Allanea> DOWN WITH ZIONIST ENTITY |
| Purpelia |
Posted: Oct 26 2011, 11:57 PM
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While we are on the issue of food can I ask something. Do you know those factory made meals that they cook for you, than freeze and pack in sealed boxes. And when you want to eat them you just heat them up in a microwave. Considering that I am issuing a microwave with each vehicle how practical would these be for field rations.
Obviously, these would not be used for long term over seas deployment but for a defensive purpose there would be a great benefit in that I could gather up supplies from commercial suppliers almost on a moments notice all the while providing my soldiers warm cooked meals to keep morale up. -------------------- Official Representative of the Windir Design Bureau of the Purpelian Government.
The three glorious steps of our design process: Step 1 - The Great Leader draws a picture of what he wants and gives it to the designers with the words: "Make a good X out of this." Step 2 - The designers than go and do their best to make something that works and still looks mostly like what the Great Leader drew. Step 3 - Once finished with that, throw it away and make something that actually works. Always remember: The law is not law because it is just. The law is just because it is the law. Glory and Victory to the Arch Duchy! |
| Falls |
Posted: Oct 27 2011, 12:20 AM
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Purp the sodium content in those meals is ...fucking absurd.
So you could do something like that, just dont use those. Mehdi-- when I say "Mess" understand that an army brings kitchens with it onto the battlefield. YOu will have Mess halls in the rear of your lines and this food will be by and large vastly superior to common rations. I do not know what you mean by "health" foods or by "behind the lines" as that implies in enemy territory. You never give soldiers high calorie foods that are excessive--- soldiers eat high calorie foods because they are doing high calorie burning work. You should be accutely aware of what you are feeding your soldiers, and always be making sure calories are delivered to where they are needed. |
| mehditerreania |
Posted: Oct 27 2011, 12:23 AM
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well theres your problem -------------------- [18:02] <plae2> and tem is completely right
--- <tyre> tbh islolm isn't necessarily bad --- <Mist> i have never met anyone who can talk so endlessly about thing he knows nothing about --- <Temujinn> I have nodesire foryou to send me videos of under age shırtľess boys --- <Temujinn> Ive seen enough Hijabs hit the carpet to know Islam doesnt stop the Teenagers in heat --- <Allanea> LONG LIVE AHMADINEJAD <Allanea> DOWN WITH ZIONIST ENTITY |
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| Purpelia |
Posted: Oct 27 2011, 12:56 AM
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Well the British issue a kettle with theirs and Lyras issues a refrigerator. So what's the difference? Its not like the difference in volume would be great betwen a refrigerator and MW combo as opposed to the refrigerator and kettle combo that Lyras does.
If the sodium content is too high than why would a government not regulate it anyway? I mean, the health of the population and all that. -------------------- Official Representative of the Windir Design Bureau of the Purpelian Government.
The three glorious steps of our design process: Step 1 - The Great Leader draws a picture of what he wants and gives it to the designers with the words: "Make a good X out of this." Step 2 - The designers than go and do their best to make something that works and still looks mostly like what the Great Leader drew. Step 3 - Once finished with that, throw it away and make something that actually works. Always remember: The law is not law because it is just. The law is just because it is the law. Glory and Victory to the Arch Duchy! |
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