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| UchihaMadara971 |
Posted: Nov 15 2011, 06:49 AM
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Can anyone design me a main battle tank image for this new tank I have in mind?
Weight: 76 tonnes Length (with gun extended forward): 12.56 m Height: 3.21 m Width: 4.25 m Length of gun: 9 m Track width: 805 mm Ground clearance: 600 mm Maximum speed: 100 km/h Cross country speed: 83 km/h Speed 10% Slope: 35 km/h Speed 60% slope: 27 km/h Acceleration: (0 to 46 km/h) 3.1 seconds Range: 750 km Range (external tank fuel): 950 km Trench crossing: 4.05 m Vertical obstacle: 2.14 m Fording without preparation: 1.83 m Fording with preparation: 3.71 m Suspension: PLA-119 Type A-II Hydropneumatic Active suspension Main armament: 1x Japan Steel L75 175-mm ETC/Thermobaric Double-Cannon Secondary armament: 1x Type Shiro 40-mm Electro-magnetic rail cannon; with/or 1 x Ishikawajima IH-119 Type B-IIA Heavy Metal Storms Pod RWS - einsteinium rounds - 40-mm Tertiary/Additional armaments: 1 x Arisaka Type 100 heavy machine gun 4 x Sumitomo NTK_62 machine guns; using 7.62x51mm NATO rounds; up to 750 rounds per minute Co-axial 1x Gryazev-Shipunov GSh-6-23M (Modernized variant) 23×115-mm autcannon (10,000 rpm), OR Co-axial 1x GIAT 30 (30-mm) autocannon (2,500 rpm) 1 x Remote Weapon System - ballistic einsteinium 60-mm Type 11 Reichmetall This post has been edited by UchihaMadara971 on Nov 15 2011, 11:55 PM |
| Forza |
Posted: Nov 15 2011, 08:39 AM
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Welcome to NSD.
Firstly, this isn't how the board works. What actually happens: people on this board examine your design, offer advice on how it could be improved and point out any flaws with it. For that to happen, you need to post the specifications and the write up for it otherwise our help is very limited. Secondly, visit the LINC forums for help on drawing an image. http://z13.invisionfree.com/LineartInc/index.php? -------------------- Qui Patitur Vincit - Who perseveres, conquers.
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| RRoan |
Posted: Nov 15 2011, 11:34 AM
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| Praetonia |
Posted: Nov 15 2011, 01:43 PM
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A number of people have tried to commission complete drawings and the bottom line is that unless it is either very simple or someone who can draw knows and likes you already you're almost certainly not going to get a good tank drawing (equivalent to at least several hours' work) for free.
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| Satirius |
Posted: Nov 15 2011, 03:53 PM
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It's probably a bad idea to join NSD and make your first post one that asks for a drawing with very little information on what to draw.
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| UchihaMadara971 |
Posted: Nov 15 2011, 11:05 PM
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0% Armaments Designer Group: Members Posts: 9 Member No.: 1,244 Joined: 15-November 11 |
I have fixed it. The specifications have been added.
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| Allanea |
Posted: Nov 15 2011, 11:37 PM
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You have way too much time on your hands ... Group: Moderators Posts: 3,729 Member No.: 88 Joined: 27-May 07 |
Please explain. Are you actually joking or do you seriously want to mount nine S-400 Triumphs on a tank? -------------------- ![]() ![]() "That's fucking epic!" ~~ Scandavian States, on my translations " Fucking awesome. Do more." ~~Questers, on my translations |
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| Crookfur |
Posted: Nov 15 2011, 11:40 PM
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You have way too much time on your hands ... Group: Moderators Posts: 3,509 Member No.: 6 Joined: 10-April 07 |
To be perfectly frank I doubt anyone on NSD would ever want to have anything to do with your design as is.
Not that NSD is for art requests, thats is what LINC is for: http://z13.invisionfree.com/LineartInc/index.php? --------------------
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| Allanea |
Posted: Nov 16 2011, 12:03 AM
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You have way too much time on your hands ... Group: Moderators Posts: 3,729 Member No.: 88 Joined: 27-May 07 |
1. What is a doublecannon?
2. Where do the HellFire missiles fit? 3. What is the hull length of the tank? What ground pressure does it exert? In other terms, how do you ensure the mobility of a 75-ton tank? 4. Can you list your tank's weapons in a more legible way? -------------------- ![]() ![]() "That's fucking epic!" ~~ Scandavian States, on my translations " Fucking awesome. Do more." ~~Questers, on my translations |
| Purpelia |
Posted: Nov 16 2011, 12:05 AM
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Hm... where do I start?
This is a tad long for a tank. Not impossible but a tad long.
7m rule. Any gun barrel longer than 7 meters has the combat effectiveness of a wet noddle. (Vibrations from the long barrel mess things up)
With 76 tons? Er... I guess if you installed rocket busters on it. Maybe you are using the S-400 engines for the bust?
I have seen hovertanks that can't match that.
Given a 175mm gun you are already severely entering the huge tank destroyer category. Its not that it cant be done. But th massive shells will be grossly overkill for any use and will cut down your ammunition stocks to the point where you will be lucky to carry a handfull of them in your tank.
Please tell me double cannon does not mean two gun barrels put together? Please...
If you are doing FT and railguns, than why are you bothering with ETC guns? Or realism? Seriously, just mount a railgun for your main weapon.
Either you have been playing way too much Red Alert 2 or reading way too many Polsen War books. One machine gun per tank is fine, two is good, 5 is so much over the top that the Landship Committee would be proud of you.
I would advise you against using multiple barreled gatling canons meant for aircraft on tanks. The type of requirement posed for one platform (rapid discharge of huge amounts of rounds to hit a hugely fast target from a massively fast moving platform) is radically different than that of the other (precise bursts of fire to kill slow moving vehicles and blow up houses and stuff.) But at this point your tank is starting to look less like a Leo2 and more like a bloody porcupine. Or maybe the bastard love child of a gunsmith and a hedgehog. I have seen motor rifle platoons with less firepower than that thing.
Er... no. You are not fitting a 60mm autocanon on a RWS on top of your main turret. Well, you could. But than the RWS would be as large as the turret of a modern IFV. And so you would have a turret on top of a turret. Recursion!
Just to make something clear to you. This is a S-400. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:S-400_Triumf_SAM.png Might as well mount a Topol on it while you are going.
Er... no. You are not mounting 20 hellfires on a tank. You could mount 20 hellfires on a tank but not on a tank with 5 machine guns, 2 autocanons, a light canon, a heavy canon and 9 missiles that barely fit on the back of a 5 ton truck each.
See above. Seriously, just what is this thing supposed to be? It has more guns than a freaking baneblade and is about the size of modern tanks. Judging by what you want to cram into it, you won't be looking at this: THIS but this:THIS Seriously, I think that last image would fit you perfectly. -------------------- Official Representative of the Windir Design Bureau of the Purpelian Government.
The three glorious steps of our design process: Step 1 - The Great Leader draws a picture of what he wants and gives it to the designers with the words: "Make a good X out of this." Step 2 - The designers than go and do their best to make something that works and still looks mostly like what the Great Leader drew. Step 3 - Once finished with that, throw it away and make something that actually works. Always remember: The law is not law because it is just. The law is just because it is the law. Glory and Victory to the Arch Duchy! |
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| Allanea |
Posted: Nov 16 2011, 12:07 AM
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You have way too much time on your hands ... Group: Moderators Posts: 3,729 Member No.: 88 Joined: 27-May 07 |
What now. People have done eight. IRL. -------------------- ![]() ![]() "That's fucking epic!" ~~ Scandavian States, on my translations " Fucking awesome. Do more." ~~Questers, on my translations |
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| Allanea |
Posted: Nov 16 2011, 12:09 AM
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You have way too much time on your hands ... Group: Moderators Posts: 3,729 Member No.: 88 Joined: 27-May 07 |
Perhaps use this, scaled to fit your tank.
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| Purpelia |
Posted: Nov 16 2011, 12:10 AM
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People have done many things IRL. Does not make them smart things. -------------------- Official Representative of the Windir Design Bureau of the Purpelian Government.
The three glorious steps of our design process: Step 1 - The Great Leader draws a picture of what he wants and gives it to the designers with the words: "Make a good X out of this." Step 2 - The designers than go and do their best to make something that works and still looks mostly like what the Great Leader drew. Step 3 - Once finished with that, throw it away and make something that actually works. Always remember: The law is not law because it is just. The law is just because it is the law. Glory and Victory to the Arch Duchy! |
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| Allanea |
Posted: Nov 16 2011, 12:14 AM
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You have way too much time on your hands ... Group: Moderators Posts: 3,729 Member No.: 88 Joined: 27-May 07 |
I suggest the following solution:
1. If you insist on the ability to launch ATGMs, make the main gun a combination gun/ATGM launcher. Then you can just store the ATGMs with your ordinary tank ammunition. At this stage you can have a main gun, and two coaxial guns - a slow-firing autocannon, and a machinegun. 2. Add an RWS. Usually a single commander's RWS is enough. This can carry two more guns, perhaps an AGL and a machinegun of some kind. But if you want to go totally craz it can have AGL/heavy machinegun/medium machinegun. 3. Possibly (not necessarily desirable) you can give the tank driver an RWS of his own. 4. Add as many frag grenade launchers as you want. These will be one-shot. This will leave you with a very well-armed tank and anywhere between 3-4 machineguns. -------------------- ![]() ![]() "That's fucking epic!" ~~ Scandavian States, on my translations " Fucking awesome. Do more." ~~Questers, on my translations |
| Allanea |
Posted: Nov 16 2011, 12:15 AM
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You have way too much time on your hands ... Group: Moderators Posts: 3,729 Member No.: 88 Joined: 27-May 07 |
NSD isn't here to advise people on what's smart. If a person wants to have a modern IS-7 ripoff in their nation that's their call. -------------------- ![]() ![]() "That's fucking epic!" ~~ Scandavian States, on my translations " Fucking awesome. Do more." ~~Questers, on my translations |
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