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 Need Specialty Aircraft
Shazbotdom
Posted: Mar 10 2012, 11:39 PM


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Okay. I know that this is going to be a pain in the ass program but I need a specialty aircraft made. I was wondering if someone could design an aircraft that will carry 12 ODST type Drop Pods. Also, could it be made to go above the height that the SR-71 was able to achieve.
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Posted: Mar 11 2012, 01:39 AM


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Do you want us to paint a giant target on it? Or are you content with enemy radar doing that on their own?


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Rich and Corporations
Posted: Mar 11 2012, 03:10 AM


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QUOTE (no endorse @ Mar 11 2012, 01:39 AM)
Do you want us to paint a giant target on it? Or are you content with enemy radar doing that on their own?

I think his proposal needs gigantic active radar.


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San-Silvacian
Posted: Mar 11 2012, 04:04 AM


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No offence intended, but that sounds, to be honest, like a horrible idea.

If what you are asking for is a PMT/FT type craft. I'd suggest going for a space station with drop pod capability or if you are FT, I'd go with a space shit capable of near-orbit flight.


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Hurtful Thoughts
Posted: Mar 11 2012, 05:17 AM


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B-52 + several D-21 drones = Deploy.

Alternately the Teldyne Compass-Cope (or even Global-Hawk refit /w/ J79), Pegassus Launch-vehicle, or just a straight-up nuclear cruise-missile seem all equally affordable alternatives to SUSTAIN.

Although by that point, why not employ the down-low in the tallgrass approach and have your 'Special-Forces' deployed via sea-skimming hypersonic cruise-missile?


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Posted: Mar 11 2012, 06:16 AM


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QUOTE (no endorse @ Mar 11 2012, 01:39 AM)
Do you want us to paint a giant target on it? Or are you content with enemy radar doing that on their own?

Now now munchy, he only specified that it exceed the height of the SR-71, not that it have engines so jawesometastic that the exhaust shows up on radar.


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Posted: Mar 11 2012, 07:14 AM


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QUOTE (RRoan @ Mar 11 2012, 01:16 AM)
QUOTE (no endorse @ Mar 11 2012, 01:39 AM)
Do you want us to paint a giant target on it? Or are you content with enemy radar doing that on their own?

Now now munchy, he only specified that it exceed the height of the SR-71, not that it have engines so jawesometastic that the exhaust shows up on radar.

At those altitudes, the only sufficiently hilarious propulsion systems to provide reasonable thrust and exhaust velocities..... oh.



OH.



OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH.



hehehehe I like your thinking Roan. Yes, this can be done. I can do it cheaper than anyone else in this thread. AND probably using existing infrastructure you have.


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Posted: Mar 11 2012, 12:05 PM


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Spying on an interesting thread...


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Purpelia
Posted: Mar 11 2012, 12:22 PM


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Let's for a moment forget all the technical problems and focus instead on the doctrinal ones. Looking at that article and your post I came to the fallowing two conclusions. 1) You will be using this to deploy some sort of special forces/supper soldiers. 2) You will be deploying 12 man squads. So, knowing all this I have to ask why not just drop them all at once?

If you drop one at a time in seperate landers you risk a 12 fold increse in the chances that one of them will be shot down. Worse yet, you risk them being seperated on the ground like paratropers in WW2. And finally, your resulting landers will be too small to fit anything other than the soldier in question. On the other hand if you drop them all at once in a single lander you ensure that they all land in one place and can come out fighting imediately. Furthermore, as your lander is now larger you can add some extra space for support weapons and stealth systems or ECM (FT, you know you want to) and more powerfull engines making the craft much harder to hit. So instead of a rig that drops a squad all over the place and with what weapons that can carry you get one that drops the same squad with full equipment right where you want them to be.

Seriously, you are a gaming fan. Remember one game with single person drop pods that did not have you facing off the enemy alone and having to locate half your squad half way across the map instead of just bursting out of the pod with a HMG and them covering your back.

And while we are at it. Is there any real advantage in a one way non recoverable drop pod that a VTOL gunship Mil-24 style does not provide? Seriously, do that and you can go from supersonic one way single person to supersonic two way whole squad with support weapons and fires at the enemy to support the mission.


So my advice to you would be to ditch the drop pod idea entirely and go for something that is far more awesome. A MIL-24 meats Dyna-Soar.


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QUOTE (no endorse @ Mar 11 2012, 07:14 AM)
QUOTE (RRoan @ Mar 11 2012, 01:16 AM)
QUOTE (no endorse @ Mar 11 2012, 01:39 AM)
Do you want us to paint a giant target on it? Or are you content with enemy radar doing that on their own?

Now now munchy, he only specified that it exceed the height of the SR-71, not that it have engines so jawesometastic that the exhaust shows up on radar.

At those altitudes, the only sufficiently hilarious propulsion systems to provide reasonable thrust and exhaust velocities..... oh.



OH.



OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH.



hehehehe I like your thinking Roan. Yes, this can be done. I can do it cheaper than anyone else in this thread. AND probably using existing infrastructure you have.

I can do it even cheaper than you, since you only figured out one of the two ways I thought of. tongue.gif

Albeit not as lulzily.


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Posted: Mar 11 2012, 08:12 PM


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Lol @ Purp-post.

QUOTE (RRoan @ Mar 11 2012, 01:43 PM)
I can do it even cheaper than you, since you only figured out one of the two ways I thought of. tongue.gif

Albeit not as lulzily.

Hydrogen bombers, amiright?

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Forget aerocarriers: Air-to-air refueling, hot-air-ballon style.

Air-to-air lift bag refilling and hole patching. Someone do this.

That sounds like something that Hurty might do.

It'll be amongst Hurty's unwritten designs never made.

Right next to the steam-powered military transport-plane, powered by wood and forged from steel penises by a fighter-jet made of biceps.

For the reffereance-challeneged. This.


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Posted: Mar 11 2012, 08:35 PM


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@Purp: it's a dumb fuck idea, but it's Shaz. Ignore the blithering doctrinal stupidity and consider the cool engineering that can go into this.



QUOTE (RRoan @ Mar 11 2012, 02:43 PM)
I can do it even cheaper than you, since you only figured out one of the two ways I thought of. tongue.gif

Albeit not as lulzily.

Verne guns are hard in a "crew puree" way, launch loop gliders are hard to steer, and Orion makes other states sad. ICBP is the only way to go.


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Posted: Mar 13 2012, 12:33 AM


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QUOTE (Purpelia @ Mar 11 2012, 12:22 PM)
If you drop one at a time in seperate landers you risk a 12 fold increse in the chances that one of them will be shot down.

what


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Purpelia
Posted: Mar 13 2012, 12:54 AM


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QUOTE (Sennacherib @ Mar 13 2012, 12:33 AM)
QUOTE (Purpelia @ Mar 11 2012, 12:22 PM)
If you drop one at a time in seperate landers you risk a 12 fold increse in the chances that one of them will be shot down.

what

Simple logic. 12 landers = 12 targets. 1 lander = 1 target. Given an enemy air defense chances are greater they will hit something if you throw more things at it. It's much easier to hit 1 out of 12 than 1 out of 1.

But as no endorse said. I won't bother you with it any further.


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Sennacherib
Posted: Mar 13 2012, 01:10 AM


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1 out of 12 is nothing. 1 out of 1 is catastrophic failure. do you also carry entire divisions in mega-apcs because you think they are less likely to get shot at?


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