| · Portal |
Help
Search
Members
Calendar
|
| Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register ) | Resend Validation Email |
| Welcome to Nsdraftroom. We hope you enjoy your visit. You're currently viewing our forum as a guest. This means you are limited to certain areas of the board and there are some features you can't use. If you join our community, you'll be able to access member-only sections, and use many member-only features such as customizing your profile, sending personal messages, and voting in polls. Registration is simple, fast, and completely free. Join our community! If you're already a member please log in to your account to access all of our features: |
| Pages: (3) [1] 2 3 ( Go to first unread post ) | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
| San-Silvacian |
Posted: Apr 24 2012, 01:17 AM
|
||||
|
25% Armaments Designer Group: Members Posts: 506 Member No.: 1,243 Joined: 13-November 11 |
Image
Type: Nuclear Superdreadnaught Displacement (Full): 3,600,000 tons Length: (Overall): 1,700 feet Beam: (Overall): 500 feet Design Draught: 41 feet Complement: 300 Officers, 8,000 Enlisted, 1,300 Air Group. Propulsion: 2 SD5R Nuclear reactors 1,500,000hp (1,153 MW) Flank Speed: 34 knots Cruise Speed: 28 knots Range: Virtually unlimited (Reactor life ~15 years) Armament: x8 57mm Bofors Mk. 2 Naval Cannons x42 AK-630 Close In Weapons Systems x218 Mk-41 Strike VLS cells (13,952 Missiles) Countermeasures: Coming soon Protection: 2 inch to 5.5 inches Sensors: Super-SAMPSON multi-function Active Electronically Scanned Array radar, N2012 Early Warning Radar, Land Radar, FCS, Hull-mounted sonar, bow mounted sonar Aircraft: 5 SH-60s, 30 F-35Bs Cost: 60,500,000,000USD this is srs bns guise. I'm kinda serious in this to be honest, I'm working out the details of the SSAMPSON (For now think double the range of SAMPSON and 3 times the target capability) and the other electronics. This is for NS ofc. --------------------
|
||||
| Praetonia |
Posted: Apr 24 2012, 01:25 AM
|
||
![]() Aristobrat Group: Members Posts: 5,204 Member No.: 59 Joined: 21-April 07 |
You call that a superdreadnought? More like a super missile ketch or something. This is a superdreadnought: ![]()
That's not rly how it works. SAMPSON is practically horizon limited, not power limited, so you can't do much to increase the range. You also see the problem of making a ship that is prospectively 3x better while costing 1000x as much? (your price is missing some zeroes) These mega arsenal ships if anything make less sense than the gun ships. They have the same structural problems, but at least with the gunships the size aided function in some way. -------------------- ![]() <dtn> hopefully plae won't follow me into my dreams |
||
| Danton |
Posted: Apr 24 2012, 01:59 AM
|
|
Unregistered |
![]() This was a pretty dumb idea (dumber than the Zumwalt!) even without 14,000 missile tubes, ski-jumps and a l:b ratio of 3.4:1. |
|
|
| San-Silvacian |
Posted: Apr 24 2012, 05:33 AM
|
||||||||
|
25% Armaments Designer Group: Members Posts: 506 Member No.: 1,243 Joined: 13-November 11 |
This is utterly beautiful. Anyway, I made this...thing, really early in the morning (No excuse, but meh). Its supposed to be a response to a new, even more dakka super ship that someone in NS built thats worse than the Longsword (Its twice the length, 30,000 VLS cells that have auto loaders, over 80 guns 5'' to 32'' or some shit and an air group the size of a Nimitzs. All in a supposedly MT ship.) I'm just going to go create an AShM that can fit in a P-500/1000 tube but comes in at a 90 degree angle as to avoid CIWs. Sound possible? --------------------
|
||||||||
| Kyiv |
Posted: Apr 24 2012, 06:21 AM
|
||||
![]() My tank is umbrella! Group: Members Posts: 2,910 Member No.: 401 Joined: 3-June 08 |
If a CIWS shot down a P500 it would be something of a miracle. A bunch of holes don't change the fact it's huge, fast and hurtling towards your ship. It also has armor.
The AEGIS/Standard Missile combo exists for the explicit purpose of countering large supersonic AShM's. It works. Which is partly why when they talk about modernizing the Kirovs they talk about rearming them with Yakhonts. --------------------
|
||||
| Danton |
Posted: Apr 24 2012, 06:43 AM
|
|
Unregistered |
![]() Here's what the 57,000 ton 31-knot Iowa would look like if built to the proportions of your 3.6 megaton 34-knot superdreadnaught. |
|
|
| San-Silvacian |
Posted: Apr 24 2012, 06:54 AM
|
||||||
|
25% Armaments Designer Group: Members Posts: 506 Member No.: 1,243 Joined: 13-November 11 |
But when fired in a salvo of 4/8/16, wouldn't it strain the AEGIS/Standard Missiles? Also, this missile would out of the tube, go up to 20,000 feet, then before it strikes its target, go up 5,000 more feet and then hurtle down on the ship, smashing a 1,250 pound warhead in whatever it hits. @Danton Thats why I'm abandoning this for a fleet of Slava-style cruisers filled with Anti-Shipping Missiles. --------------------
|
||||||
| Danton |
Posted: Apr 24 2012, 07:06 AM
|
|
Unregistered |
Like a Scud missile that flies lower and slower?
|
|
|
| San-Silvacian |
Posted: Apr 24 2012, 07:20 AM
|
||||||
|
25% Armaments Designer Group: Members Posts: 506 Member No.: 1,243 Joined: 13-November 11 |
Fuck it i'm just going to lul spam the hell out of the P-1000. --------------------
|
||||||
| Danton |
Posted: Apr 24 2012, 09:15 AM
|
|
Unregistered |
Yeah, those look really good on paper.
|
|
|
| Allanea |
Posted: Apr 24 2012, 10:53 AM
|
|
You have way too much time on your hands ... Group: Moderators Posts: 3,729 Member No.: 88 Joined: 27-May 07 |
Dudes?
Assuming his ship is a box [it would actually have less displacement than a box because none of its sides are straight, it would be 34,850,000 cubic feet in volume. That means it would be 986 842.104 cubic meters in volume, with a displacement of only [only! Hahahaha! ] under a million of tons. If it weighed 3.6 million tons it would go down like a rock. A superdreadnaught 457 meters long is laughable of course. -------------------- ![]() ![]() "That's fucking epic!" ~~ Scandavian States, on my translations " Fucking awesome. Do more." ~~Questers, on my translations |
| Allanea |
Posted: Apr 24 2012, 11:03 AM
|
|
You have way too much time on your hands ... Group: Moderators Posts: 3,729 Member No.: 88 Joined: 27-May 07 |
Before designing superdreadnoughts of your own, I suggest you look at existing SDN designs:
Doujin Class Command Battleship [984 meters] Nietzsche SDN [1000 meters] Dreadfire-class SDN 1300 meters Feathermore-class SDN - 1376 meters Gestalt-class Superdreadnought [1666 meters] Hood Class SDN 1876 meters [currently built under license for Allanean use] -------------------- ![]() ![]() "That's fucking epic!" ~~ Scandavian States, on my translations " Fucking awesome. Do more." ~~Questers, on my translations |
| Kyiv |
Posted: Apr 24 2012, 11:43 AM
|
||||||
![]() My tank is umbrella! Group: Members Posts: 2,910 Member No.: 401 Joined: 3-June 08 |
The P500/P1000 were fast but not fast enough to have a serious chance of defeating the Aegis on speed alone. The Soviets were aware of the problem but were still looking for a solution for their next generation of large AShM's when they collapsed. They considered stealth (plasma generators on the Meteorit, which also cruised at Mach 3, had a design range of 5,000km and was lulzy all around), way more speed (Bolide, the successor to the P700, dumped the turbofan for a ramjet and was supposed to cruise at Mach 4 while the Kh-32 would have extended the range of the Mach 3.5 Kh-22 to over 800km) or just strapping a MaRV to a RSD-10 and dropping that on the carriers (name escapes me). --------------------
|
||||||
| San-Silvacian |
Posted: Apr 24 2012, 08:11 PM
|
||||
|
25% Armaments Designer Group: Members Posts: 506 Member No.: 1,243 Joined: 13-November 11 |
What about the Dong Feng? I looked it up when confronted with it during an RP and its supposedly a Chinese Carrier killer. I have my doubts about such a claim, and that its only launched from land.
What is Aegis? I'm looking it up but I don't understand. Its a battle management program? --------------------
|
||||
| Andorianus\Dystopianus |
Posted: Apr 24 2012, 09:00 PM
|
||||||
![]() 79% Armaments Designer Group: Members Posts: 1,596 Member No.: 924 Joined: 25-June 10 |
@OP: Or even better, don't start with superdreads at all as they are completely ridiculous and unworkable and make no sense at all.
Aegis is the control system for the larger American destroyers, Ticonderoga and Arleigh Burke specifically. Also in use on destroyers in other nations such as Japan (Kongo, Atago, which both are basically Burkes) and Spain. Aegis controls pretty much all the (weapons) systems aboard. -------------------- How to recognize a troll:
Why research (or at a least basic knowledge about the shit you're talking about) is important:
|
||||||
Pages: (3) [1] 2 3 |
![]() ![]() ![]() |