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 Real Life Exo suites, An idea i'm working on
Biop
Posted: Jul 10 2012, 10:05 PM


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Ok before i get laughed out because I'm Biop. Hear me out.

I have been toying with this idea for a few years (Gradually becoming less iron man, and more... ...More realistic)

The Basic idea is an Aluminium and steel frames with Hydraulic joints. (Like a Car Jack) So that way they don't need external power. The Smaller cylinder would be on both sides, as would the larger cylinder (For picking up and putting down)

The legs would have to be probably powered to keep a reasonable speed (Not super human, But able to match what you can reasonably do) And that can be easily provided with a diesel generator on a carry behind cart.

This isn't supposed to be for Combat, But for things like Construction, Mining stuff like that. And i'm sorry i don't even have doodles anymore as my notebook got shredded.


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Vault X
Posted: Jul 10 2012, 10:30 PM


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First mistake: Materials. Anything other than BFRP/CFRP is way too heavy.
Second issue: Hydraulics. They need power.
Third issue: ...So if you have a diesel generator, how come you say it doesn't need power?



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Biop
Posted: Jul 10 2012, 10:32 PM


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QUOTE (Vault X @ Jul 10 2012, 10:30 PM)
First mistake: Materials. Anything other than BFRP/CFRP is way too heavy.
Second issue: Hydraulics. They need power.
Third issue: ...So if you have a diesel generator, how come you say it doesn't need power?

BFRP/CFRP?

They do? Other than the Input i never remembered plugging a car jack in.

I was saying the Arm's wouldn't need electrical power, but i can't think of a way to make the legs work fast enough without external power


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Danton
Posted: Jul 11 2012, 12:01 AM


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Maybe the next step would be to put these construction and mining tools on some kind of vehicle.
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Posted: Jul 11 2012, 01:31 AM


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BFRP: Boron Fiber Reinforced Plastics

CFRP: Carbon-Fiber-Reinforced Plastics


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Falls
Posted: Jul 11 2012, 02:32 AM


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QUOTE (Biop @ Jul 10 2012, 09:32 PM)
QUOTE (Vault X @ Jul 10 2012, 10:30 PM)
First mistake: Materials. Anything other than BFRP/CFRP is way too heavy.
Second issue: Hydraulics. They need power.
Third issue: ...So if you have a diesel generator, how come you say it doesn't need power?



They do? Other than the Input i never remembered plugging a car jack in.


Do you recall eating breakfast? then laying your hands on the jack and cranking away at it...power, youre welcome.

Ill also note its a significant amount of power/energy for a rather insignificant amount of movement to go with the tremendous strength...so your analogy speaks to the efficiency of the idea.
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Posted: Jul 11 2012, 02:35 AM


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there have been real suits suggested for construction and industrial work, and they all invariably run off an external power source (quite frankly for a reason)

Also, to my knowledge, none of them have actually worked. But that small detail aside, it is possible.



You have a really hard time justifying it when dedicated machinery like forklifts are orders of magnitude cheaper and are less likely to inject the operator full of hydraulic fluid when there's a leak. It's frankly not worth it. No, I don't mean "it's not conventional so ignore it," I mean "lol yeah right, don't bother, then end product will be shit" from an engineering standpoint.


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Biop
Posted: Jul 11 2012, 10:41 PM


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QUOTE (Falls @ Jul 11 2012, 02:32 AM)
QUOTE (Biop @ Jul 10 2012, 09:32 PM)
QUOTE (Vault X @ Jul 10 2012, 10:30 PM)
First mistake: Materials. Anything other than BFRP/CFRP is way too heavy.
Second issue: Hydraulics. They need power.
Third issue: ...So if you have a diesel generator, how come you say it doesn't need power?



They do? Other than the Input i never remembered plugging a car jack in.


Do you recall eating breakfast? then laying your hands on the jack and cranking away at it...power, youre welcome.

Ill also note its a significant amount of power/energy for a rather insignificant amount of movement to go with the tremendous strength...so your analogy speaks to the efficiency of the idea.

*Facepalms* I was thinking Eletrical standpoint. And yeah i see your point... I'm trying to get a 1 to 1 movement with a much stronger output. Welp back to the drawing board with me.

Dose anyoen know a way to get the 1 to 1 by the way?


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Samozaryadnyastan
Posted: Jul 12 2012, 09:16 AM


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QUOTE (no endorse @ Jul 11 2012, 01:35 AM)
there have been real suits suggested for construction and industrial work, and they all invariably run off an external power source (quite frankly for a reason)

Also, to my knowledge, none of them have actually worked. But that small detail aside, it is possible.



You have a really hard time justifying it when dedicated machinery like forklifts are orders of magnitude cheaper and are less likely to inject the operator full of hydraulic fluid when there's a leak. It's frankly not worth it. No, I don't mean "it's not conventional so ignore it," I mean "lol yeah right, don't bother, then end product will be shit" from an engineering standpoint.

Some of the more serious Japanese concepts are looking at minor augmentation to nominal human strength, in order to make human carrying limits into a steady ability. Improving 'strength' as an endurance thing.

As demonstrated on James May's Big Ideas, one such concept is a powered exoskeleton that would allow a carer to lift patients about, presumably all day. Whereas today they use lifts and cranes which have limited speed, limited mobility (and destinations) and can only be used one patient at a time, since there will only be a single rail.
Moving them by hand requires a team of four, maybe six carers and a trolley.


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Allanea
Posted: Jul 12 2012, 11:11 AM


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Yes, there are Japanese.... things that are used in hospitals and the like to help lift patients because frankly you ain't going to be using a forklift to help an old lady out of bed.


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