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 Unnamed Folding Sub machine gun, Folding body for 10mm machine pistol
The Phoenix Milita
  Posted: Sep 15 2008, 09:13 PM


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Name: Undecided
Designed by: Phoenix Dynamix
Caliber: 10mm Auto, 10mm Caseless
Action: SA/DA - auto/burst/semi
Cyclic ROF 450RPM Full Auto, 900RPM (3 round burst)
Barrel 7.4 inches
Capacity: 12 rounds(flush mag); 27 rounds extended mag
Effective Range: 50-80 meters
This is a basically a folding SMG body for the PHX OHS(10mm offensive handgun system, made DA/SA/select fire variants). Partial disassembly of the host pistol is required, however over 60% parts commonality is retained between handgun and folding submachine gun systems. A special version of the OHS with a rounded trigger guard(bottom in pic) is optimized for installation into the body.
Reflex sights, lights and lasers can be installed on the carrying handle/iron sight. The forward finger guard can act as a forward grip and the barrel can accept a suppressor.





The concept is based on a real prototype weapon.

Would like to hear input as to a reasonable weight, and please include your rationale behind such weight.


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Sumer
Posted: Sep 15 2008, 09:55 PM


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I may be very very wrong, but Magpul's FMG-9 weighs I think 2kg unloaded.


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The Phoenix Milita
Posted: Sep 15 2008, 10:11 PM


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That weight seems to be consistent with the Ares FMG/M-21 as well, but the Russians seems to have gotten away with 1.83 kg. So since this is 10mm, and contains many pistol components, would 5lbs be more appropriate?


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Sumer
Posted: Sep 15 2008, 10:24 PM


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I've seen between 1.8kg and 2.25 with both systems. To be honest I'd just say put it at 1.9-2.1kg and be fine, that extra hundred grams or so will not really hurt, nor will anyone complain much.


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roef
Posted: Sep 16 2008, 02:53 PM


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I think it is a fine thing, but with these "rounds" how many bullets are a round, and i suppose that noe round can be loaded into it at ne time, you cant load 20 rounds in 1 gun i suppose... But it is nice!
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Zinaire
Posted: Sep 16 2008, 03:19 PM


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QUOTE (roef @ Sep 16 2008, 05:53 AM)
I think it is a fine thing, but with these "rounds" how many bullets are a round, and i suppose that noe round can be loaded into it at ne time, you cant load 20 rounds in 1 gun i suppose... But it is nice!

Uh....one bullet = one round.
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Otagia
Posted: Sep 16 2008, 03:56 PM


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Not usually much of a fan of DoGA for MT stuff, but that's some spiffy work you've got there. Might have to reinstall the ol' girl...


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