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 Secret Weapon, WWII Era Last Ditch weapon
Mael
Posted: Mar 15 2011, 05:30 AM


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I need a visual design for a Japanese type minisub fitted with castaway ramjets and wings and reinforced structurally to survive being jettisoned into the ocean at low level.

The object being a long range flight of shore based squadrons of these submarines to launch their 2 torpedoes at an approaching fleet without the agony of piloting slowly through Anti-aircraft fire to launch a single torpedo.

This weapon will represent my Nation's crazy wonder weapon of desperation. So the idea of Recovering the minisubs will be something that is not a priority.
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VTC
Posted: Mar 15 2011, 05:47 AM


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...WOW.


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Anemos Major
Posted: Mar 15 2011, 07:23 AM


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just go faster than missiles lol

In all honesty, you might want to modify the Kaiten design a little and stick two torpedoes to that.
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Izistan
Posted: Mar 15 2011, 07:29 AM


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im huigh as fuukc

nig4lysfe bitches

granted im ghey for air launched mini subs and i believe there was a actual martin merrywhateverthefuck napkinwaffe plane/sub and like its in fiction and shit and what am i typing about


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@RatedRsupeRme actually its fosforus technology fosforus when it melts through anything like shooting through paper its used in at4hs ammo now and it basically has a delayed ignition an is like a volcano erupting and spewing melting white hot fosforus tottaly melting anyone in its way so ur really behind on military tech

<+medicus> izistan
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<+medicus> you'd never hear me say this
<+medicus> but thank god for israel and the united states
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Tarsas
Posted: Mar 15 2011, 07:33 AM


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Launch entire sub.


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Izistan
Posted: Mar 15 2011, 07:37 AM


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it needs to have a 100mm gun in a remote weapons staion carry 16 special forces and have treads

then it can fly around in a ground support roll for urban fighting


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<+Praetonia> beset on all sides by triads, hell's angels and corrupt RCMP
<+Praetonia> not to mention hordes of nazis
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@RatedRsupeRme actually its fosforus technology fosforus when it melts through anything like shooting through paper its used in at4hs ammo now and it basically has a delayed ignition an is like a volcano erupting and spewing melting white hot fosforus tottaly melting anyone in its way so ur really behind on military tech

<+medicus> izistan
<+medicus> i heard
<+medicus> you'd never hear me say this
<+medicus> but thank god for israel and the united states
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Izistan
Posted: Mar 15 2011, 07:38 AM


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canals and shit like venice so it could land and move around in them


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<+Praetonia> izi lives in a bizarre dystopian parallel canada
<+Praetonia> beset on all sides by triads, hell's angels and corrupt RCMP
<+Praetonia> not to mention hordes of nazis
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@RatedRsupeRme actually its fosforus technology fosforus when it melts through anything like shooting through paper its used in at4hs ammo now and it basically has a delayed ignition an is like a volcano erupting and spewing melting white hot fosforus tottaly melting anyone in its way so ur really behind on military tech

<+medicus> izistan
<+medicus> i heard
<+medicus> you'd never hear me say this
<+medicus> but thank god for israel and the united states
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Sumer
Posted: Mar 15 2011, 12:58 PM


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QUOTE (Mael @ Mar 15 2011, 01:30 AM)
I need a visual design for a Japanese type minisub fitted with castaway ramjets and wings and reinforced structurally to survive being jettisoned into the ocean at low level.

The object being a long range flight of shore based squadrons of these submarines to launch their 2 torpedoes at an approaching fleet without the agony of piloting slowly through Anti-aircraft fire to launch a single torpedo.

This weapon will represent my Nation's crazy wonder weapon of desperation. So the idea of Recovering the minisubs will be something that is not a priority.

Impossible, and actually an operationally useless weapon. Just use Okha and be done with it.


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Sersapin
Posted: Mar 15 2011, 05:50 PM


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QUOTE (Sumer @ Mar 15 2011, 12:58 PM)
Impossible

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! You just killed it! I could have been beautiful!


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Mael
Posted: Mar 15 2011, 09:09 PM


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While its admittedly a bad idea, going full Okha is out of the question. The weapon as a concept works just fine, as the Kaiten and Okha are of similar weight to say the V1.

Its not that far out there to have a nation combine the concepts out of desperation. A plane with a minisub fuselage which is jetisoned at low level to engage shipping.

It may require a larger ramjet engine, or two VI engines, But In the realm of crazy WWII concepts this thing isnt that radical.
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Satirius
Posted: Mar 15 2011, 09:43 PM


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This is somehow cheaper to produce than a harpoon how


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Mael
Posted: Mar 15 2011, 09:50 PM


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Harpoon is an anachronism. This weapon is for WWII era.
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Praetonia
Posted: Mar 15 2011, 09:58 PM


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There's nothing useful that can be said about this.


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Sumer
Posted: Mar 16 2011, 02:42 AM


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QUOTE (Mael @ Mar 15 2011, 05:09 PM)
While its admittedly a bad idea, going full Okha is out of the question. The weapon as a concept works just fine, as the Kaiten and Okha are of similar weight to say the V1.

Its not that far out there to have a nation combine the concepts out of desperation. A plane with a minisub fuselage which is jetisoned at low level to engage shipping.

It may require a larger ramjet engine, or two VI engines, But In the realm of crazy WWII concepts this thing isnt that radical.

Except.... it is impossible.

Consider the weight needed, due to the structure you need to have to have the sub part survive crashing into the water.

It's just not going to happen. Use Okha.


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Well...next to Sumer's juggernaut of death, the MCA-7G.
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Mael
Posted: Mar 16 2011, 03:55 AM


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A Kaiten isnt much more than a torpedo and they survive the drop very well. I would be more concerned with the pilot remaining conscious.

off the top of my head. chute deployment. Now were in the the territory of splashdown except without the added stresses of coming to a halt on the surface, since the torpedo/minisub would be expected to dive into the water in any case.

Im just not sold on the impossibility of this weapon when all the pieces exist and function reliably in the WWII era.
Throw in a hydropneumatic recoil devise for the pilot's seat...
chutes...
weight is not an issue as minisubs are well within the power range of the engines.
Im just not being sold on impossible. Not useful or effective in combat I can understand. The weapon fills that role in fact.
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