Title: soul control
Description: might be what i sleeve up in 3 weeks
poggydude - February 12, 2012 11:36 PM (GMT)
looks really strong, imo pretty similar to what max sleeves up, i was testing it on cockatrice and i loved how it played. basically i am wondering what people have to lend, and any suggestions for improvements. the one change i will likely make is adding at least 2 to 3 more o-ring for the maindeck.
ManOfTheKoth - February 13, 2012 01:20 AM (GMT)
I like this deck a lot and I'm seriously considering it over Tokens.
Just glancing at it, I'd probably play:
-2 Gideon +1 Sun Titan +1 Grave Titan
-2 Snapcaster +2 Skinrender
-1 Doom Blade +1 Oblivion Ring
-1or2 Sorin +1or2 Forbidden Alchemy
-1 Elspeth Tirel +1 Dissipate
I've played Gideon before and he feels like a fog half the time. There has to be better.
I think Sorin's playable in a control deck, but the guy didn't seem too enthusiastic about it. Also Forbidden Alchemy + Lingering Souls looks amazing.
Snapcaster is still good, but honestly i think Skinrender is just better now partly because of Thalia. And he's a more relevant 3/3.
I've never tested elspeth. She's normally vulnerable to flying... but you have lingering souls. Maybe I should really be increasing her to 2. Using her to board wipe seems really good right now.
...Yeah I'm going to go build this.
poggydude - February 13, 2012 02:04 AM (GMT)
what the fuck, this was gonna be my thing...anyways... i think you are underestimating just how good walkers are. gideon really goes to town on a lot of deck and landin 2 or more walkers at a time is unfair
poggydude - February 13, 2012 02:06 AM (GMT)
also your build might be different enough from mine that we can pull this off, if we get zack on board we could sleeve up team psu soul control :o
poggydude - February 13, 2012 10:04 PM (GMT)
significantly less excited about soring now that i have been informed that his tokens dont fly...took me this long to get that... :/
ManOfTheKoth - February 14, 2012 02:06 AM (GMT)
Pat - February 14, 2012 03:37 AM (GMT)
He'd probably be as good/better than Elspeth if the tokens flew. Let Mason design the next planeswalker.
ManOfTheKoth - February 23, 2012 01:34 AM (GMT)
Yeah most of my changes weren't the best. I tried to add more targets for sun titan, but this plan wasn't as strong as mass planeswalkers (I know Elspeth and Gideon are both 5 mana but they are really sweet together). Your manabase is low on blue, so dissipate is right out, but I still like running 4 forbidden alchemy. And for versatility (for game day level), you want snapcaster over skinrender. Turns out the guy on the pro tour who designed the deck knows it better than I do.
I think I would change the deck for game day level by adding 1 or 2 alchemy, taking out 1 doom blade and maybe a snapcaster or think twice.
poggydude - February 23, 2012 02:31 AM (GMT)
i have been repeatedly testing this on cockatrice and as you have said the mass of walkers is pretty sweet. i also, as stated before, like your idea of 2x elpeth a lot. if you want to sell them or trade them away i would like to get them. even though i dont have enough blue for dissipate i may want to have 4 in the board to switch with my mana leaks, because i believe there are some matchups where leak is a massive dong.
ManOfTheKoth - February 23, 2012 03:03 AM (GMT)
I doesn't matter how good it is if you can't cast it, and in what matchup is mana leak bad and dissipate good? I think you're underestimating mana leak.
poggydude - February 23, 2012 04:02 AM (GMT)
some control matchups leak was just a massive penis