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 Deck Concepts, I'll just leave these here
TheDarkFuzz
Posted: Feb 19 2011, 01:42 PM


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I've thought of a few EDH deck concepts over the past week and I wanted to write them all down before my sleep-deprived mind moved on to other things and forgot about them. Consider this my EDH to-do list, and feel free to chime in with relevant cards and stuff.

1) Cat Deck - The one with the cat pictures. I need to not forget about this. I have a big list of all the viable cards written down somewhere, I just need to sit down and whittle it into a deck. Also, considering making up a General since no existing legend fits...needs to be five colors and a kitty. Oh, and of course it needs to have general approval and consensus and so forth so there's no bitching when I destroy fools with it.

2) Gloryscale Viashino - I was rifling through my big box thinking about pauper EDH while I watched 30 Rock and this guy seems like he could be just an amazing General for a common/uncommon deck. I love me some multicolored nonsense. Jaydelon in EDH? YES PLEASE.

3) Myr - So much myr tribal right now and I don't think anyone has a deck yet. This can only mean that you're all fools and my invincible myr plan is both glorious and infallible. Need to find a deck idea to stick this into. Gonna need a lot of artifact recursion and untapping.

4) Skeleton Ship/Ramirez diPietro EDH - Sygg deck has been wonderful, but I've been playing it less and less. Mostly because it's a little too overstuffed with overcosted goodies and a lack of acceleration. So I figure it needs an overhaul, or just to be turned into something else altogether. Then I thought, Rogues were cool, but you know what's really cool? A billion dollars. No wait, I mean pirates. And ships. And booty! Also, note to self: Piracy + Rishadan Cutpurse = BROKESAUCE.

5) Dromar - Pretty low on the priority list, but I've had a Dromar deck on my mind for a while now. Comes into play effects and self-bounce galore using all the extra half-themed stuff out of Selenia, which frees up space to put more total jerk cards in. Winter Orb goes well with Icy right?
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Posted: Feb 19 2011, 02:05 PM


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QUOTE (TheDarkFuzz @ Feb 19 2011, 01:42 PM)

1) Cat Deck - The one with the cat pictures. I need to not forget about this. I have a big list of all the viable cards written down somewhere, I just need to sit down and whittle it into a deck. Also, considering making up a General since no existing legend fits...needs to be five colors and a kitty. Oh, and of course it needs to have general approval and consensus and so forth so there's no bitching when I destroy fools with it.


Herpty Derpty Dum
Here's a rule of thumb
Bring a fake card to play
And I'll **** up your day
Herpty Derpty Dum
-- Derp Creed

Now I might be willing to ignore the Derp creed if the cat general was named Pussy Galore. In fact that would be awesome.

Also the art should totally be Aisha Klan Klan from Outlaw Star (or a sensually posed furry)

user posted image

Plus I'm all for Winter Orb cards. They could really be useful in slowing me and other ramp-obsessed players down.
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AvatarofManaScrew
Posted: Feb 19 2011, 02:54 PM


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Best idea ever: Alter Atogatog to be Catogcatog. Also alter his ability to be sacrifice a Cat(tog crossed out): Catogcatog gets +X/+X until end of turn where X is the sacrificed Cat(tog crossed out)'s power.

EDIT: Also, whiskers on all the atogs in the art, obv.
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Posted: Feb 19 2011, 02:57 PM


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QUOTE (AvatarofManaScrew @ Feb 19 2011, 02:54 PM)
Best idea ever: Alter Atogatog to be Catogcatog. Also alter his ability to be sacrifice a Cat(tog crossed out): Catogcatog gets +X/+X until end of turn where X is the sacrificed Cat(tog crossed out)'s power.

EDIT: Also, whiskers on all the atogs in the art, obv.

That might be too broken. Just think of the power it has with Waiting in the Weeds!
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Posted: Feb 19 2011, 03:01 PM


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On the other hand, you would get to play with a general named CATOGCATOG with altered art to have ears and whiskers on him! Who could complain about losing to something that ridiculous? Also, sac'ing your board to one shot someone hardly seems like an upside. If concerned with ridiculousness, give him "this creature does not deal general damage" or something.
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The Duressed
Posted: Feb 19 2011, 03:34 PM


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I guess the option for playing a real general would just be taking a page out of Don's book by going with Karona. I figure most of the cards that make this deck will probably be cat type, even if some definitely won't be.
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I_Eat_Days
Posted: Feb 19 2011, 05:42 PM


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Cat-alya, Samite Master, with a modified casting cost of WUBRG

EDIT: this was a terrible idea and I feel terrible about it.

That being said, "Me-Ow!"
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TheDarkFuzz
Posted: Mar 30 2011, 08:31 PM


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6) Actually Big - Typical "big creatures" decks make use of a wide variety of 5/5s and 6/6s, because there are a ton of them and they're all pretty great. Plus, Shards gave us some great "5 power or higher" love, which really helps to enable viable large creature strategies without making them non-competitively slow. However, it means that you tend to see more creatures at those two common sizes than any other. I haven't delved into this too deep, but it would be cool to try out a deck that uses only creatures that are 7/7 or larger.

7) Explore! - While looking into putting together a Pirates list, I found out that there are a whopping sixty-some Scouts in Magic and some of them aren't terrible. There's a Scout deck themed around exploration, maps, and discoveries out there, and I'm gonna try and find it.
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TheDarkFuzz
Posted: Apr 10 2011, 06:50 PM


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8) Rayne, Academy Chancellor EDH - a deck themed around knowledge and research, with a full library of Tomes, Folios, and Scrolls. Probably needs a way to win.
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Posted: Apr 10 2011, 07:17 PM


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Cursed Scroll. Done.
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Posted: Apr 19 2011, 11:12 PM


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is this your personal concept thread or may others add to it?
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TheDarkFuzz
Posted: Apr 20 2011, 01:34 AM


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Go for it!

Unless your concepts are dumb.

Also:

9) Artist Deck - Rebecca Guay is the only artist I could think of whose body of work is both prolific and distinctive enough to make a whole EDH deck out of it. Would probably need to break some rules about general colors to play everything it wants to play. Does anyone know any other artist that would fit the bill?

10) Myr, Artificers, and Golems, oh my! - Finally, a chance to build Ayesha Tanaka! No, but seriously, this would probably be a Hanna redux, artificer tribal with a myr and golem subtheme (see (3) above, and golems are all over New Phyrexia). Although...damn, it would be unfortunate if I put together a Golem deck without Bosh or an Artificer deck with Goblin Welder...who came up with these stupid EDH color rules anyways?
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Posted: Apr 20 2011, 08:38 AM


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all edh deck concepts should be dumb(no one likes playing against the smart ones)

pete venters(WITH DRAWN TOGETHER)

1M) Ambassador Laquatus- a self milling laquatus deck that runs all the good blue/artifact graveyard stuffs.(i dont think there is a critical mass for this yet so i patiently wait)


2M) Melira- if she works the way she seems to her+ persit mans+sac outlet seems silly(pretty sure this wont be a unique concept by the time she is released)
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Posted: Apr 20 2011, 11:06 AM


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Mason,

There may be a functional difference between "return it [a creature with persist] to the battlefield under its owner's control with a -1/-1 counter on it." and

Skinrender 2BB (4)
Creature — Zombie (3/3)

When Skinrender enters the battlefield, "put three -1/-1 counters on target creature."

But we'll see. From my count, there're only two Mono Green nautral persist creatures (Woodfall Primus and Aerie Ouphs (which can wrath fliers with Melira)). One of these is decidedly more broken than the other.

Of course, there are multiple ways to give creatures persist (Antler Skulkin and Cauldron of Souls).

What may even be more exciting is other little things.

For instance, would Melira's ability prevent you from activating Devoted Druid, or would the ability still trigger?

"Put a -1/-1 counter on Devoted Druid: Untap Devoted Druid."

Creatures like Arberoth become funny. (3GG for a 9/9, cumulative upkeep: Put a -1/-1 counter on him). Again, not sure if Melira works like that.

This seems good too:

Witherscale Wurm 4GG (6)
Creature — Wurm (9/9)

Whenever Witherscale Wurm blocks or becomes blocked by a creature, that creature gains wither until end of turn. (It deals damage to creatures in the form of -1/-1 counters.)

Whenever Witherscale Wurm deals damage to an opponent, remove all -1/-1 counters from it.

But those are just stupid tricks.

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poggydude
Posted: Apr 20 2011, 12:36 PM


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yeah i dont know how it works, my guess is it works in a way tha allows primus+melira+sac out to insta win, but i could be wrong
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TheDarkFuzz
Posted: Apr 20 2011, 02:24 PM


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Not 100% on this, but relatively certain that Melira prevents you from activating Devoted Druid and doesn't affect cards that ETB with -1/-1 counters (ex. Morselhoarder or persist creatures)

Plus side, you can play Lichenthrope!
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Posted: Apr 20 2011, 02:50 PM


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QUOTE
Not 100% on this, but relatively certain that Melira prevents you from activating Devoted Druid and doesn't affect cards that ETB with -1/-1 counters (ex. Morselhoarder or persist creatures)


According to the MBS FAQ on Melira's Keepers I think you can infer that with Melira out your persist dudes are the stone cold nuts. I saw an "if this creature would ETB with a counter it instead doesn't."

As for the Druid, it would be the same as trying to pay life with Platinum Empirion out in that you can't pay the cost due to a restriction.
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Posted: Apr 22 2011, 01:41 PM


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Josh Mullins, how do you like the card Night Dealings in your Sygg deck? Someone asked about that card on Twitter and I'm pretty sure you play it, or you used to.

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Posted: Apr 22 2011, 01:59 PM


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I've got it in my proliferate deck. At worst (i.e. 0 counters) you can find pacts and such with it, but it's really so rediculously easy to get counters on it that it's basically several beseech the queens. if you've got an earthquake style effect, it basically becomes a repeatable diabolic tutor.
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TheDarkFuzz
Posted: Apr 22 2011, 05:00 PM


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Jon Richmond, I have found Night Dealings to be an excellent card.

As our good friend Noah Cohen noted, with a few sources of damage handy it is essentially a repeatable Diabolic Tutor - a Planar Portal at 2 less mana and no tapping to activate. It's ridiculously easy to end up with a "buttload" of counters on it.

In Sygg, I've always found that it can be very mana intensive, but Sygg is also a low-cost deck with very little acceleration that rarely breaks 10 mana before the game ends. I'd be interested in seing how it performs in a deck that typically ends up with a great deal of mana.
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Posted: Apr 23 2011, 11:38 AM


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It seems me lira rocks with persist but I wanted to say aberoth probes doesn't as it is a cost...really am looking forward to her FAQ and karns
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QUOTE (TheDarkFuzz @ Apr 20 2011, 01:34 AM)

9) Artist Deck - Rebecca Guay is the only artist I could think of whose body of work is both prolific and distinctive enough to make a whole EDH deck out of it. Would probably need to break some rules about general colors to play everything it wants to play. Does anyone know any other artist that would fit the bill?


Dang, the one artist you choose that doesn't get hosed by Persecute Artist.
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Posted: Jan 22 2012, 08:41 PM


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QUOTE (TheDarkFuzz @ Apr 20 2011, 01:34 AM)
9) Artist Deck - Rebecca Guay is the only artist I could think of whose body of work is both prolific and distinctive enough to make a whole EDH deck out of it. Would probably need to break some rules about general colors to play everything it wants to play. Does anyone know any other artist that would fit the bill?

Whoa! I forgot you said this! As it turns out, I built this deck! It's so terrible. Lol.
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Asian Rob
Posted: Jan 22 2012, 10:12 PM


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And the cards are pretty bad too. *Rim shot*
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TheDarkFuzz
Posted: Jan 23 2012, 12:58 PM


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Well I had the idea and no one else in the world has ever had it before so Ryan Fisher I guess you owe me royalties.

Also, yeah, I kind of imagine the deck would be terrible. Rebecca Guay does fantastic art but not for anything super powerful. (Bitterblossom best RG card?) Still, just like Cat deck it must be fantastic to have that feeling of artistic unity throughout the entire deck.
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