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Andrew

Posted: Sep 25 2007, 06:03 AM

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I said "to support idiocy". Does the CIA engage in idiocy?

That doesn't make any sense. You act like only conservatives are calling Iran Terrorists. When Iran is recognized by the CIA as a Terrorist nation.

Ducc, does the US support violence against civilians or not? It is not a complicated question.

Ahmadinejad Appearance Prompts Criticism of Columbia University Public-Speaking Decisions

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Columbia University said it would welcome any notable figure visiting the United States — even Adolf Hitler himself — to speak to students and faculty at the Ivy League college.

But there are those who question what the New York college's standards are. They ask why a school that will not allow an ROTC program to be part of its curriculum would allow Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, one of America’s avowed enemies, onto its campus.

Critics wonder why the leader of a nation that exports terrorism is allowed to speak, but the leader of an American organization that seeks to secure U.S. borders was not.

On Monday, Columbia will play host to Ahmadinejad, who has called the Holocaust "a myth," encouraged the destruction of Israel and who leads a nation that has supported Hezbollah terrorists in the Middle East and insurgents in Iraq...

...Minuteman founder and president Jim Gilchrist said he now feels "sweet and sour" toward Columbia after an invitation to participate in an Oct. 4 talk was taken away last week. Gilchrist appeared at Columbia last year, but his speech was thwarted when students and other opponents stormed the stage as he took the podium.

"I've always respected Columbia, but I've relegated it to a gutter school after that incident," Gilchrist said in a phone interview. "They've stopped free speech. That's worse than killing people. With that, you can kill an entire nation."

So like Dan pointed out the great "liberal" Columbia university censors and bans the ROTC from their campus? And you support such hypocrisy? They then take away the Minutemen's Oct 4 talk? They support free speech my ass. You should be ashamed for supporting such hypocrisy.

Columbia University - School of Terrorism

No gays in Iran, says Ahmadinejad (Video)

Ducc

Posted: Sep 25 2007, 08:53 AM

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That doesn't make any sense. You act like only conservatives are calling Iran Terrorists. When Iran is recognized by the CIA as a Terrorist nation.

What? I made an off-hand remark that people drop the word terrorism to support their stupid argument, and you respond with this? I don't even know what you're getting at. Who cares that the CIA called Iran a 'terrorist nation'? I'm not saying all uses of the word terrorism are wrong, I'm saying using the word to deny a speaker is ridiculous.

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So like Dan pointed out the great "liberal" Columbia university censors and bans the ROTC from their campus?

Censors? When did they do that? And banning ROTC from practicing is like banning the Dixie Chicks from playing. They are a private school, they can ban anyone. It's not a freedom of speech issue. Columbia is there to educate people, not train them for military practice. What are you guys trying to argue here?

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They then take away the Minutemen's Oct 4 talk?

I have no idea why they did that. It would be borderline retarded for you to guess.

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You should be ashamed for supporting such hypocrisy.

I see no hypocrisy. By allowing some, Columbia has no responsibility to allow all. Get a clue.

Andrew	Posted: Sep 25 2007, 09:18 AM
Chief of Staff Group: Admin Posts: 8,999 Member No.: 1 Joined: 17-November 04	So not allowing the ROTC on campus to speak and talk to students is acceptable? I thought you were about "freeeedom of speeech"? It is blatant Hypocrisy! It is obvious that Columbia is not about Freedom of Speech.

Ducc	Posted: Sep 25 2007, 09:32 AM
O-4 Major Group: Founders Posts: 2,453 Member No.: 4 Joined: 18-November 04	Hold the hell on. Who said Columbia MUST allow everyone who wants to speak?? They are a private institution, and can allow whoever they want, for whatever purpose they want! You have no right to say who they can and can't allow on their campus. Freedom of speech is one thing. Complete access to speak in their buildings is a damn sight different. In case you forgot, the argument for whether or not to allow Ahmadinejad to speak has nothing to do with 'freeeedome of speeeech', as you put it. The question is whether or not it's a good idea for Columbia to allow him to speak. The president of Columbia made a very good argument for it, and I'm proud he has the wisdom and balls to ignore the people who can't understand it.

Andrew	Posted: Sep 25 2007, 09:34 AM
Chief of Staff Group: Admin Posts: 8,999 Member No.: 1 Joined: 17-November 04	So you accept the ROTC being banned from campus? It doesn't seem like they have much balls at all.

Ducc	Posted: Sep 25 2007, 10:06 AM
O-4 Major Group: Founders Posts: 2,453 Member No.: 4 Joined: 18-November 04	Accept it? I dunno. Why would I care? it's their prerogative. I think you're grasping for straws.

Andrew	Posted: Sep 25 2007, 05:59 PM
Chief of Staff Group: Admin Posts: 8,999 Member No.: 1 Joined: 17-November 04	Do you think it is acceptable that Columbia bans the ROTC from campus? This is not a complicated question.

Ducc	Posted: Sep 25 2007, 06:11 PM
O-4 Major Group: Founders Posts: 2,453 Member No.: 4 Joined: 18-November 04	Of course I do. Do you think Columbia is required to accept any group that wants to be a part of its system? Do you think Columbia is required to let in anyone who wants to speak? These are not complicated questions.

Andrew	Posted: Sep 25 2007, 06:40 PM
Chief of Staff Group: Admin Posts: 8,999 Member No.: 1 Joined: 17-November 04	So you are a hypocrite.

Ducc	Posted: Sep 25 2007, 07:12 PM
O-4 Major Group: Founders Posts: 2,453 Member No.: 4 Joined: 18-November 04	What? Why?

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