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Posted: Apr 15 2011, 05:55 PM
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Rebuttal to "Analysing the ‘900 papers supporting climate scepticism’: 9 out of top 10 authors linked to ExxonMobil"
When confronted with the irrefutable fact that an overwhelming number of peer-reviewed papers exist supporting skeptic arguments, desperate alarmists like Christian will always turn to whatever smear they can come up with, in this case the tired old one that the authors were "funded" by oil companies. What is falsely implied is that these scientists are corrupt and oil companies are paying them to be skeptical. This is an easy argument to prove, you simply need to show that these scientists changed their position on ACC/AGW after receiving a monetary donation from an oil company. Alarmists never show this because they cannot. These scientists all held a skeptical position prior to receiving any monetary donations. Any monetary donations these scientists received was because the donor agreed with the scientific position that the scientist already held. Alarmists cannot comprehend this irrefutable logic because they emotionally refuse to accept that there are credentialed scientists who do not share their beliefs.
All of Christian's lies are completely debunked in this article,
Are Skeptical Scientists funded by ExxonMobil?
The claims of this article have not been shown to be true. It is falsely implied that if a scientist went to a meeting for coffee and donuts hosted by an organization that in the last 20 years received a $5 donation from a fossil fuel company that scientist is now "funded by the fossil fuel industry".
- Please provide actual documents irrefutably demonstrating energy company funding for any scientist.
- Then provide actual documents showing what fraction of their overall funding this is.
- Finally prove that the same scientist changed their scientific position regarding ACC/AGW due to this funding and did not hold a skeptical position prior to the funding.
If these requirements are not met then evidence of corruption cannot be demonstrated.
1. Christian completely ignores Alarmist funding sources,
Climate Money: The Climate Industry: $79 billion so far – trillions to come (PDF) (Joanne Nova, B.S. Microbiology)
Funding Flows for Climate Change Research and Related Activities (PDF) (Jeff Kueter, M.A. Science & Technology Studies)
2. Christian makes no attempt to dispute any of the facts or arguments presented by the authors in any of the peer-reviewed papers.
3. Christian attempts to smear Dr. Idso, who is the most published skeptic with impeccable credentials,
Sherwood B. Idso, B.S. Physics Cum Laude, University of Minnesota (1964), M.S. Soil Science, University of Minnesota (1966), Ph.D. Soil Science, University of Minnesota (1967), Research Assistant in Physics, University of Minnesota (1962), National Defense Education Act Fellowship (1964-1967), Research Soil Scientist, U.S. Water Conservation Laboratory, Agricultural Research Service, U.S. Department of Agriculture (1967-1974), Editorial Board Member, Agricultural and Forest Meteorology Journal (1972-1993), Secretary, American Meteorological Society, Central Arizona Chapter (1973-1974), Vice-Chair, American Meteorological Society, Central Arizona Chapter (1974-1975), Research Physicist, U.S. Water Conservation Laboratory, Agricultural Research Service, U.S. Department of Agriculture (1974-2001), Chair, American Meteorological Society, Central Arizona Chapter (1975-1976), Arthur S. Flemming Award (1977), Secretary, Sigma Xi - The Research Society, Arizona State University Chapter (1979-1980), President, Sigma Xi - The Research Society, Arizona State University Chapter (1980-1982), Member, Task Force on "Alternative Crops", Council for Agricultural Science and Technology (1983), Adjunct Professor of Geography and Plant Biology, Arizona State University (1984-2007), Editorial Board Member, Environmental and Experimental Botany Journal (1993-Present), Member, Botanical Society of America, Member, American Geophysical Union, Member, American Society of Agronomy, ISI Highly Cited Researcher, President, Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change (2001-Present)
Christian apparently ignores but still links to Dr. Idso's clear explanation that funding does not influence his work,
What Motivates the Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change?
4. Christian attempts to smear Dr. Michaels, who is another well published skeptic with impeccable credentials,
Patrick J. Michaels, A.B. Biological Sciences, University of Chicago (1971), S.M. Biology, University of Chicago (1975), Ph.D. Ecological Climatology, University of Wisconsin-Madison (1979), Research and Project Assistant, Center for Climatic Research, University of Wisconsin (1976-1979), Assistant Professor of Environmental Sciences, University of Virginia (1980-1986), Virginia State Climatologist (1980-2007), President, Central Virginia Chapter, American Meteorological Society (1986-1987), Executive Board, American Association of State Climatologists (1986-1989), Associate Professor of Environmental Sciences, University of Virginia (1986-1995), President, American Association of State Climatologists (1987-1988), Chair, Committee on Applied Climatology, American Meteorological Society (1988-1999), Senior Fellow in Environmental Studies, Cato Institute (1992-Present), Visiting Scientist, Marshall Institute (1996-Present), Member, American Association for the Advancement of Science, Member, Association of American Geographers, Member, Sigma Xi, The Scientific Research Society, Professor of Environmental Sciences, University of Virginia (1996-Present), Contributor and Expert Reviewer, IPCC (1990, 1992, 1995, 2001, 2007)
This is an easy argument to prove, you simply need to show that Dr. Michaels changed his position on AGW after receiving a monetary donation from an oil company. Christian never shows this because he cannot. Any monetary donations he received was because the donor agreed with the scientific position that he already held.
5. Christian pathetically tries to smear Dr. Kimball who has impeccable credentials simply because he co-authored papers with Dr. Idso,
Bruce A. Kimball, B.S. Soil Physics, University of Minnesota (1963), M.S. Soil Physics, Iowa State University (1965), Ph.D. Soil Physics, Cornell University (1970), Soil Scientist, U.S. Water Conservation Laboratory, Agricultural Research Service, U.S. Department of Agriculture (1969-1991), Certificate of Merit, U.S. Department of Agriculture (1974, 1992, 1998), Associate Editor, Soil Science Society of America Journal (1977-1982), Associate Editor, Transactions of the ASAE (1984-1987), Fellow, American Society of Agronomy (1987), Fellow, Soil Science Society of America (1987), Associate Editor, Agronomy Journal (1989-1991), Soil Scientist, Arid-Land Agricultural Research Center, Agricultural Research Service, U.S. Department of Agriculture (1991-Present), National Program Leader for Global Change, Agricultural Research Service, U.S. Department of Agriculture (1999), Fellowship, Science and Technology Agency of Japan (2000), ISI Highly Cited Researcher; Expert Reviewer, IPCC (2007)
6. Christian lies about the purpose of the list, "The "900+ papers" list is supposed to be proof that a large number of different scientists reject the scientific consensus on climate change"
The purpose of the list is explicitly stated, "Purpose: To provide a resource for peer-reviewed papers that support skepticism of ACC/AGW or ACC/AGW Alarm and to prove that these papers exist contrary to widely held beliefs". It is also explicitly stated in the disclaimer that no personal position is applied to any of the authors, "Disclaimer: The inclusion of a paper in this list does not imply a specific personal position to any of the authors.". Thus the list has nothing to do with showing any number of scientists holding any position, the list is about showing that peer-reviewed papers exist supporting skeptic arguments.
7. Christian just spouts lies and propaganda, "a good proportion of this new list is made up of a small network of individuals who co-author papers and share funding ties to the oil industry. There are numerous other names on the list with links to oil-industry funded climate sceptic think-tanks, including more from the International Policy Network (IPN) and the Marshall Institute."
When the best he could come up with is Dr. Idso authored 68 papers and Dr. Michaels authored 28. The funding "ties" propaganda means Christian uses Google to desperately find any organization any of the author's ever wrote an op-ed for and then if the organization received a $1 donation from an oil company in the last 30 years, that author now has "funding ties to the oil-industry". Not only is it absurd attempting to smear reputable scientists based on this nonsense, it is a smear on the energy companies who make donations to institutes who share their free-market values. Receiving a donation from an energy company does not make you "evil" or corrupt. Donations are not illegal and corruption needs to be proven. Christian fails to provide a single piece of evidence for any corruption from any of the authors.
8. Christian makes a strawman argument comparing the list to a report. "Compiling these lists is dramatically different to the process of producing IPCC reports, which reference thousands of scientific papers."
The list is a resource and no claims are made that it is a report nor is any comparison made to the IPCC reports. However there is an 868 report written by credentialed scientists that disputes the alarmist conclusions of the IPCC report,
Climate Change Reconsidered (868 pgs) (NIPCC Report)
9. Christian lies that , "We found that nine of the ten have direct links to ExxonMobil. Eight are affiliated to Exxon-funded organisations,"
No he hasn't. He has not produced any documentation showing checks written or bank deposits made to any of them, let alone that any of their positions on AGW changed because of a monetary donation. All the scientists he lists have impeccable credentials,
Wei-Hock "Willie" Soon, B.Sc. University of Southern California (1985), M.Sc. University of Southern California (1987), Ph.D. (Thesis: Non-equilibrium kinetics in high-temperature gases), University of Southern California (1991), Graduate Scholastic Award, IEEE Nuclear and Plasma Sciences Society (1989), Rockwell Dennis Hunt Scholastic Award, University of Southern California (1991), Adjunct Professor, Department of Science and Environmental Studies, University of Putra, Malaysia; Member, American Astrophysical Society; Member, American Geophysical Union; Member, International Astronomical Union; Receiving Editor, New Astronomy Journal; Astronomer, Mount Wilson Observatory (1992-Present), Astrophysicist and Geoscientist, Solar, Stellar, and Planetary Sciences (SSP) Division, Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics (1992-Present)
John R. Christy, B.A. Mathematics, California State University (1973), M.S. Atmospheric Science, University of Illinois (1984), Ph.D. Atmospheric Science, University of Illinois (1987), NASA Exceptional Scientific Achievement Medal (1991), American Meteorological Society's Special Award (1996), Member, Committee on Earth Studies, Space Studies Board (1998-2001), Alabama State Climatologist (2000-Present), Fellow, American Meteorological Society (2002), Panel Member, Official Statement on Climate Change, American Geophysical Union (2003), Member, Committee on Environmental Satellite Data Utilization, Space Studies Board (2003-2004), Member, Committee on Surface Temperature Reconstructions for the last 2,000 years, National Research Council (2006), Distinguished Professor of Atmospheric Science, University of Alabama in Huntsville (1991-Present), Director of the Earth System Science Center, University of Alabama in Huntsville (2000-Present), Contributor, IPCC (1992, 1994, 1996, 2007), Lead Author, IPCC (2001)
Ross McKitrick, B.A. (Hons) Economics, Queen's University, Canada (1988), M.A. Economics, University of British Columbia, Canada (1990), Ph.D. Economics, University of British Columbia, Canada (1996), Assistant Professor of Economics, University of Guelph, Canada (1996-2001), Associate Professor of Economics, University of Guelph, Canada (2001-2008), Member, Academic Advisory Board, John Deutsch Institute, Queen's University (Canada), Member, Global Warming Policy Foundation (UK), Senior Fellow, Fraser Institute (Canada), Professor of Environmental Economics, University of Guelph, Canada (2008-Present), Expert Reviewer, IPCC (2007)
Indur M. Goklany, B.Tech. Electrical Engineering, Indian Institute of Technology, Bombay, India (1968), M.S. Electrical Engineering, Michigan State University (1969), Ph.D. Electrical Engineering (1973), Julian Simon Fellow, Property and Environment Research Center (2000), Visiting Fellow, American Enterprise Institute (2002-2003), Julian Simon Award (2007), Principal Author, IPCC (1990), Advisor, IPCC (1992), Expert Reviewer, IPCC (2007), Assistant Director of Programs & Science & Technology Policy, U.S. Department of the Interior (Present)
S. Fred Singer, BEE, Ohio State University (1943), A.M. Physics, Princeton University (1944), Ph.D. Physics, Princeton University (1948), Research Physicist, Upper Atmosphere Rocket Program, Applied Physics Laboratory, Johns Hopkins University (1946-1950), Scientific Liaison Officer, U.S. Office of Naval Research (1950-1953), Director, Center for Atmospheric and Space Physics, and Professor of Physics, University of Maryland (1953-1962), White House Commendation for Early Design of Space Satellites (1954), Visiting Scientist, Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Cal Tech (1961-1962), First Director, National Weather Satellite Center (1962-1964), First Dean of the School of Environmental and Planetary Sciences, University of Miami (1964-1967), Deputy Assistant Secretary (Water Quality and Research), U.S. Department of the Interior (1967-1970), Deputy Assistant Administrator, U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (1970-1971), Federal Executive Fellow, The Brookings Institution (1971), Professor of Environmental Science, University of Virginia (1971-1994), U.S. National Academy of Sciences Exchange Scholar, Soviet Academy of Sciences Institute for Physics of the Earth (1972), Member, Governor of Virginia Task Force on Transportation (1975), First Sid Richardson Professor, Lyndon Baines Johnson School for Public Affairs, University of Texas (1978), Vice Chairman and Member, National Advisory Committee on Oceans and Atmospheres (1981-1986), Senior Fellow, The Heritage Foundation (1982-1983), Member, U.S. Department of State Science Advisory Board (Oceans, Environment, Science) (1982-1987), Member, Acid Rain Panel, White House Office of Science and Technology Policy (1982-1987), Member, NASA Space Applications Advisory Committee (1983-1985), Member, U.S. Department of Energy Nuclear Waste Panel (1984), Visiting Eminent Scholar, George Mason University (1984-1987), Chief Scientist, U.S. Department of Transportation (1987-1989), Member, White House Panel on U.S.-Brazil Science and Technology Exchange (1987), Distinguished Research Professor, Institute for Space Science and Technology (1989-1994), Guest Scholar, Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars, Smithsonian Institute (1991), Guest Scholar, National Air and Space Museum, Smithsonian Institute (1991), Distinguished Visiting Fellow, The Hoover Institution, Stanford University (1992-1993), Distinguished Research Professor, Institute for Humane Studies, George Mason University (1994-2000), Commendation for Research on Particle Clouds, NASA (1997), Research Fellow, Independent Institute (1997), Director and President, The Science and Environmental Policy Project (1989-Present), Expert Reviewer, IPCC (2001)
Richard S. Lindzen, A.B. Physics Magna Cum Laude, Harvard University (1960), S.M. Applied Mathematics, Harvard University (1961), Ph.D. Applied Mathematics, Harvard University (1964), Research Associate in Meteorology, University of Washington (1964-1965), NATO Post-Doctoral Fellow at the Institute for Theoretical Meteorology, University of Oslo (1965-1966), Research Scientist, National Center for Atmospheric Research (1966-1967), Visiting Lecturer in Meteorology, UCLA (1967), NCAR Outstanding Publication Award (1967), AMS Meisinger Award (1968), Associate Professor and Professor of Meteorology, University of Chicago (1968-1972), Summer Lecturer, NCAR Colloquium (1968, 1972, 1978), AGU Macelwane Award (1969), Visiting Professor, Department of Environmental Sciences, Tel Aviv University (1969), Alfred P. Sloan Fellowship (1970-1976), Gordon McKay Professor of Dynamic Meteorology, Harvard University (1972-1983), Visiting Professor of Dynamic Meteorology, Massachusetts Institute of Technology (1975), Lady Davis Visiting Professor, Department of Meteorology, The Hebrew University (1979), Director, Center for Earth and Planetary Physics, Harvard University (1980-1983), Robert P. Burden Professor of Dynamical Meteorology, Harvard University (1982-1983), AMS Charney Award (1985), Vikram Amblal Sarabhai Professor, Physical Research Laboratory, Ahmedabad, India (1985), Japanese Society for the Promotion of Science Fellowship (1986-1987), Distinguished Visiting Scientist, Jet Propulsion Laboratory, NASA (1988-Present), Sackler Visiting Professor, Tel Aviv University (1992), Landsdowne Lecturer, University of Victoria (1993), Bernhard Haurwitz Memorial Lecturer, American Meteorological Society (1997), Fellow, American Academy of Arts & Sciences, Fellow, American Association for the Advancement of Science, Fellow, American Geophysical Union, Fellow, American Meteorological Society, Member, Norwegian Academy of Science and Letters, Member, Sigma Xi, The Scientific Research Society, Member, National Academy of Sciences, ISI Highly Cited Researcher, Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Meteorology, Department of Earth, Atmospheric and Planetary Sciences, Massachusetts Institute of Technology (1983-Present), Lead Author, IPCC (2001)
Dr. Lindzen is one of the most prominent skeptics and frequently is mentioned because of his impeccable credentials and employment at the prestigious Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT). The Boston Globe investigated these smears and found them to be nonsense,
MIT's inconvenient scientist (The Boston Globe)