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| Andrew |
Posted: Sep 24 2005, 07:20 PM
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Chief of Staff Group: Admin Posts: 9,001 Member No.: 1 Joined: 17-November 04 |
Anyone get a chance to read this? I don't agree with the conclusions but the radar anomalies are very interesting.
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| Ducc |
Posted: Sep 25 2005, 12:07 AM
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O-4 Major Group: Founders Posts: 2,453 Member No.: 4 Joined: 18-November 04 |
The web page is too hard to read and I suspect the story is filled with nonsense. I'm too busy to try.
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Posted: Sep 25 2005, 01:20 AM
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Are you talking about the time discrepancies? |
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| Andrew |
Posted: Sep 25 2005, 01:27 AM
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Chief of Staff Group: Admin Posts: 9,001 Member No.: 1 Joined: 17-November 04 |
No those radar images look like a hurricane but they are 12 days before Katrina hit:
The second and third images are NOT of Katrina. They were picked up by Radar when no cloud cover was present. |
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| _Z_ |
Posted: Sep 25 2005, 02:18 AM
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O-4 Major Group: Founders Posts: 2,306 Member No.: 2 Joined: 18-November 04 |
That may not be too hard to explain...
Friday night I watched NEXRAD tracking Rita, and saw seven different images that had the same 03:15 UTC timestamp. One had the states' outline, but all meteorogical data was missing. It was like all weather in the gulf had vanished. A couple hours later, everything was back to normal. 12 days may just be a bad clock, or a bad timestamp. I watched a winter storm here last year that had an image date of 01/01/00. Obviously, someone forgot to set the freakin' clock... It happens from time to time. I think if anything- they have a hyperdimensional clock plug-in... ![]() I can't find any reference to Cohen making any of the statements they mention, and I can't find anything related to their claims in S 517... although it is in part an energy bill. (?) The microwave image with the 4-1/2 bars was interesting though, since UoW only deals in visible and IR, as that's all the GOES satellites have.... - I can play with PhotoShop too... I can fathom weather changes using EMP's but how one could steer, or otherwise control something the size of Katrina (or Rita) is beyond my imagination using this technology. But like so many governmental 'things' going on in this country, I think the people at large are generally out of the informational loop. I think what you're reading here is a couple scraps of suspect information, expanded and woven into a conspiratist's imaginitive lore. Got to give him credit though, it's a fun read. Until I can second-source their information, that's all I'm crediting it as. ![]() |
| Ducc |
Posted: Sep 25 2005, 10:13 AM
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O-4 Major Group: Founders Posts: 2,453 Member No.: 4 Joined: 18-November 04 |
Yep.
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| Andrew |
Posted: Sep 25 2005, 10:02 PM
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Chief of Staff Group: Admin Posts: 9,001 Member No.: 1 Joined: 17-November 04 |
I think you could prove the timestamp if you had access to their archives. Either way that radar signature doesn't match Katrina's path. I am leaning more towards a radar malfunction but I think they should figure out what caused it regardless.
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| _Z_ |
Posted: Sep 26 2005, 12:11 AM
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O-4 Major Group: Founders Posts: 2,306 Member No.: 2 Joined: 18-November 04 |
I take some of this stuff with a grain of salt, and a certain amount of confessed ignorance of the system. Radar electronics isn't my forte.
A couple thoughts... Look at the dBz color scale of the IR image. If the scale is shifted down, reflections can show that don't always correspond to visible images. At higher resolutions, false echoes, called scatter- can show stuff that isn't really there. I've seen giant red scatter radar patterns over an area that had blue sky in reality. The key was looking at the scale, and found it had tanked. When heavy weather is around, the scale shifts up, resolution goes down, and the images are more realistic. Images can be updated on the web at unprescribed intervals. Usually at the quarter, and three-quarter hour, but that's not a rule. Radar and sat visibles may not be synchonized as to their actual image time, yet correlate in the posting time. Perhaps when things get hectic in the weather office, human errors are more prone to happen? Images getting mixed-up, or set out-of sequence. (?) Like all high-energy emmisions, radar can also get messed-up by sunspot activity, though to what degree I don't know. I seem to recall we're entering a period of such activity. I also know radar is sensitive to power supply fluctuations. I would guess wind burts buffeting the receiver dish could cause dopplar shifts. All these factors could contribute to errors in what you see, versus what actually is. |
| Andrew |
Posted: Sep 26 2005, 12:32 AM
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Chief of Staff Group: Admin Posts: 9,001 Member No.: 1 Joined: 17-November 04 |
Z, I agree that it looks like they probably had the resolution of the radar turned up too high, which would explain its position and the circular pattern.
But wind should not have much effect on modern dopplar radar as it is concealed in a dome: ![]() I just thought of something. If you turned up the resolution high enough would it detect moisture on the dome itself? I'm not familiar with Radars enough but I'm sure if you changed enough settings you could get some really odd readings. |
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