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| Amarth |
Posted: Apr 25 2012, 06:02 PM
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Oh, she is a manipulative bitch here. I meant "she isn't manipulative, but isn't really a hundred percent goody-two-shoes either" in canon. -------------------- "I dance the dance of the fool
and pray you find me mad for if you lay hands upon the root you'll know me, without illusion and find me guilty of the truth."-Malkav's Words "LEGOLAS! YOU ARE HEIR TO THE THRONE OF MIRKWOOD! YOU CANNOT AFFORD TO HAVE YOUR WAY WITH RANDOM GIRLS IN CLOSETS!"-Glorfindel, "Never Leave Fanfiction Lying Around" by crazyroninchic "Dear Harry, If Voldemort kills us, we turn into sparkly vampires. Can we panic NOW? Sincerely, Ron" Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.E- Albert Einstein My Tolkien fanfic recs Anime and manga fanfic recs Book and game fanfic recs ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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| Caranthol |
Posted: Apr 25 2012, 07:51 PM
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That's very true, at least if by 'canon' you mean LotR and Silmarillion. From what I have read, Tolkien Sueified Galadriel to a degree in his latest writings, e.g. airbrushing her motivations to go to Middle-Earth. In one of those versions, she didn't even join the rebellion of Noldor but ,IIRC, actually fought against them in Alqualond. As she appears in LotR, however, she certainly isn't all angelic. And that's actually a more interesting version than the later one.
-------------------- "Ha! Wonnige Glut! Leuchtender Glanz!
Strahlend nun offen steht mir die Strae. Im Feuer mich baden!" - Siegfried, Act Three, Scene Two. |
| Amarth |
Posted: Apr 27 2012, 02:24 PM
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Which would make no sense. Why would she follow them later, if she fought them? Particularly if it's going along with Celeborn=Teleri of Alqualond. She would have no motivation to go to ME or stay there after War of Wrath.
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NOOOOOOOOOO! If there is no point in contiuning the fic proper, why make a sequel to it?
As opposed to starring in hardcore gay porn.
Come to think of it, what is Aragorn attracted to? No one looks good emaciated.
As seen in many instances before in this fic, such as when he swears to protect Legolas and then lets Boromir do as he pleases with him...
And one would think that people of ME would know better than to vow about everything and anything...
And benzodiazepines.
Aragorn: I'm the future King of Men, not Goblin King. Childhood rhymes won't work on me...Well, they wouldn't work on me if I was in character.
I wonder if she's putting in all the innuendo on purpose, or she just soaked up the terminology from other slashfics and is now using it subconsciously?
FINALLY. I thought author was just going to ignore her existence.
Yes, dammit!
But manipulative!Galadriel made it sound as if though she and Elrond were grooming Aragorn to be Legolas' "saviour"
I really hope this isn't supposed to be an excuse for MPREG.
It would be awesome.(Note to self: Must rein in Inner Noldor Fangirl and write at least one Awesome!Gimli fic for massive prompt challenge I was crazy enough to enter.)
And the way he declares it is great too. I was almost willing to be more forgiving because she does Gimli well. Almost.Great MST! Is this the last one or is there an epilogue? -------------------- "I dance the dance of the fool
and pray you find me mad for if you lay hands upon the root you'll know me, without illusion and find me guilty of the truth."-Malkav's Words "LEGOLAS! YOU ARE HEIR TO THE THRONE OF MIRKWOOD! YOU CANNOT AFFORD TO HAVE YOUR WAY WITH RANDOM GIRLS IN CLOSETS!"-Glorfindel, "Never Leave Fanfiction Lying Around" by crazyroninchic "Dear Harry, If Voldemort kills us, we turn into sparkly vampires. Can we panic NOW? Sincerely, Ron" Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.E- Albert Einstein My Tolkien fanfic recs Anime and manga fanfic recs Book and game fanfic recs ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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| Caranthol |
Posted: Apr 27 2012, 06:00 PM
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Well, this was in the Unfinished Tales. Since I don't have that book anymore, I can't really remember if she really had any motivation other than going with Celeborn. IIRC, she also desired to share the fate of her relatives of the House of Finarfin (who didn't take part in the Kinslaying?). I don't remember why Celeborn chose to go to Middle-Earth. Plus, in the very latest version Galadriel wasn't even under the ban of the Exiles; she remained in Middle-Earth purely out of a sense of duty to fight Sauron. In any case, it's much more incoherent than the LotR/Silmarillion version.
After this and many other similar fics he should be a pro in that.
By now I've come to the conclusion that he's really a narcissist, whatever Tyger tries to portray him as. Maybe he gets his kicks of being in control, and Legolas is the perfect object.
True, seeing how vows are rather serious business in there.
I dunno. But you have to admit that the fic is a lot funnier if you imagine every line being a double entendre.
Well, seeing how "well" his other master plans are thought out in this fic it's really no wonder a detail or two might have slipped by him.
As much as I put my sporkers ragging on the fic, I actually have to give Tyger credit in that regard. See, besides this one and the sequel, she also wrote a sort of prequel/tie-in from Faramir's POV. In that one it's revealed that Aragorn chooses Arwen in the end.
*Shudders at the thought* Thankfully, it's not.
Me too. My forgiveness, however, vanished when I saw that Gimli becomes next to nonexistent in the sequel. He can't have more than five lines in all the six chapters. It's a shame, really, since because of that Tyger's worst qualities as a writer shine even clearer.
There's an epilogue, too. I will do the sequel after that's finished. However, I will leave the prequel with Faramir alone. That's because it is actually of much better quality than the others, and now that Tyger has deleted f-ing everything I can't even access it (didn't copy it onto my PC like I did with the others). -------------------- "Ha! Wonnige Glut! Leuchtender Glanz!
Strahlend nun offen steht mir die Strae. Im Feuer mich baden!" - Siegfried, Act Three, Scene Two. |
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| Amarth |
Posted: Apr 29 2012, 03:43 AM
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Thanks, Tyger, for providing me with the list of...ahem, the list. ![]()
Except this is one case where subtext can't exist. There is nothing to hint at it. For goodness' sake, Elves of Mirkwood let Gollum run around. And they had to imprison Dwarves in cellar, which implies lack of actual prison.
Well, sorry to burst your bubble, Tyger, but my people were never slavers. I'm sure there are other cultures that never did that either. (Inuits and Native Americans come to mind.) I'll thank you not to generalise everyone. Besides, Elves have their shameful past. It's written in this big, fat book called "The Silmarillion". Maybe you could try skimming through it sometimes. Besides, Tyger, if you wanted to discuss Sindarin slavery...wouldn't it have been better to write about slaves that actually suffered it, not the one that got away soon after his initiation? Or dedicate more to his life under the line of Stewards? (See, now you've got me writing innuendo too.)
Except that there wasn't nearly as much destruction and loss as in, you know, conflicts that ended in War of Wrath or Last Alliance. And Elves barely participated in War of the Ring.
She is on LJ? ![]()
Inaccuracy indeed. For it wasn't two or three but many. Which kind of makes the last stand even more awesome. Why do people prefer the movie again?
Since when has someone in this fic really bothered with someone else's well-being without being told to?(Except Gimli. And maybe baby!Pippin.)
Nah, that's too cool for this fic.
Seriously, what's with all this innuendo?
So, he...threw all three of them at the same time and they landed perfectly in a limited area. Wow. Congratulations, Tyger, you make the Mumakil scene in RotK seem realistic.
Note the irony. He avenges his abuser against a member of one race that was never involved in his suffering. If I were Legolas finally snapping out of Stockholm Syndrome, I'd walk up to Uruk and ask "Can I join?"
Yeah. If she made it clear that he fired the arrows and toned down the explanation of the sword, it would have been aptly epic.
Not really. I mean, normal and healthy Legolas has kill count competition with Gimli. Definitely not someone with remorse about killing.
Oh, and I hate incorrect use of musical terms. Crescendo is gradual rising, not the peak.
It appears so.And this wasn't an epilogue. This was the last chapter. There is a difference. Great job at surviving this! ETA: So, Tyger disappeared from ff.net and livejournal in this year. Reasons? There is a PPC mission. It mentions author threatening to delete everything if another negative review comes. Is that it? -------------------- "I dance the dance of the fool
and pray you find me mad for if you lay hands upon the root you'll know me, without illusion and find me guilty of the truth."-Malkav's Words "LEGOLAS! YOU ARE HEIR TO THE THRONE OF MIRKWOOD! YOU CANNOT AFFORD TO HAVE YOUR WAY WITH RANDOM GIRLS IN CLOSETS!"-Glorfindel, "Never Leave Fanfiction Lying Around" by crazyroninchic "Dear Harry, If Voldemort kills us, we turn into sparkly vampires. Can we panic NOW? Sincerely, Ron" Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.E- Albert Einstein My Tolkien fanfic recs Anime and manga fanfic recs Book and game fanfic recs ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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| Caranthol |
Posted: Apr 29 2012, 11:25 AM
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*Sarcasm* Oh, but there are hints! See, in the real world most peoples have had some sort of slavery system, so the Elves must also have had one, never mind they are a fictional, non-human group in a fictional world. *End sarcasm*
Actually, North American Indians often used captives as slaves and e.g. the Creek sided with Confederacy in the Civil War partly because the tribe owned black slaves. On the other hand, Indians never practised slavery in such a massive scale as the Confederates did.
I dunno, maybe because they don't have to use their imaginations at all when watching the movies vs. reading the books.
Good point, that one.
LOL, yeah, there's enough phallic symbolism in this chapter alone to fill a Freudian psychology textbook.
*Slaps himself* Oh my, how could I miss that? Well, I don't know about joining the Uruks, but one would think someone who has hated Men for millennia wouldn't be so eager to avenge one of them, especially someone with whom he had a personal score to settle.
Yet one sad example of how people can waste their talents. It's cringeworthy how Tyger obviously can do characterization (see Gimli) and action scenes if she wants, but she throws it all away for the sadistic slash shit.
Yup. Now it's obvious the author was mixing the Elves from Eragon up with Tolkien's Eldar.
There's the sequel still to power through. The chapters are mercifully short, however, so it will be a breeze compared to this.
Maybe. Also, she has an Author's Note in the Chapter 6 of the sequel where she says she might do that, citing "personal and privacy reasons". Thanks for the review! -------------------- "Ha! Wonnige Glut! Leuchtender Glanz!
Strahlend nun offen steht mir die Strae. Im Feuer mich baden!" - Siegfried, Act Three, Scene Two. |
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| jules14 |
Posted: Apr 30 2012, 03:40 PM
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Congratulations for getting to the end of this shitfest, Caranthol!
Due to a mix of school and computer problems, I couldn't review your updates one by one, but I've caught up at last, and I can safely say you and your sporkers stayed funny 'til the end. In fact, you were a lot funnier than the PPC mission Amarth linked to. -------------------- |
| Caranthol |
Posted: May 2 2012, 04:48 PM
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Thanks, Jules! This one must be the longest MST I have done this far, and I have to admit it started to feel like a chore at some point. By the Chapter 15 or so it felt a bit hard to invent anything funny. Nice to see, though, that you enjoyed the MST. It got better in the end, however. There was so much idiocy to mock in the last chapters. I'll do the sequel next, but the first chapter is so dull I have some difficulties inventing anything funny. When I'm done with Tyger's fics, I think I'll choose something shorter and lighter for my next MST.
-------------------- "Ha! Wonnige Glut! Leuchtender Glanz!
Strahlend nun offen steht mir die Strae. Im Feuer mich baden!" - Siegfried, Act Three, Scene Two. |
| jules14 |
Posted: May 3 2012, 02:16 AM
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I'm sure you'll be able to make something good out of it.
Sounds like a plan. You and your sporkers will definitely need a break. -------------------- |
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