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GREATEST SCREWBALL COMEDIES, Vote for your top three
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Somewhere along the line, some cinema mogul decided what a screwball comedy is and what one isn't ... And it sorta stuck ... But it's still too vague for me to fully understand. Surely the sex element is a mild requirement but what else qualifies it, and what doesn't ? Did the film have to be a monstrous success to qualify ? I'm asking because I don't know. A simple comedy or a funny movie in of itself, does not make it a screwballer, I understand that. There is a wry sophistication, an adult element with emphasis on quick-paced, witty dialogue focusing on the dysfunctionalities of the characters more than on any physical routine. Oftimes the nutcase families and ineffectual spouses are showcased, while the siblings pursue sex or marriage ...
Noel Cowards "Private Lives" is as funny and as screwbally as any of the others I've seen. If "Bombshell" and "Jewell Robbery" do not fit in as classic screwball comedies, then I'm simply missing the genre as defined ... Perhaps "It Happened One Night" is so recognized as the first because of it's success and it's Oscars, but these three are at least pre-genre screwball comedies that would qualify if made a few years later ...
Anyway, so as to not stir up the hornets nest ... lol ... I voted for:
It Happened One Night 1934 ... My Man Godfrey 1936 ... Miracle Of Morgans Creek 1944 ...
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For one of my choices I selected "other," namely EASY LIVING (1937) with Jean Arthur and Ray Milland. This is my #1 favorite screwball comedy, although HIS GIRL FRIDAY is a strong second with me. Mitchell Leisen directed EASY LIVING but Preston Sturges wrote it, and I think you can see his hand in some of the superfluous gags (like the lady's hat that gets caught on Milland's tray--a detail which is never followed up) and especially in the feeding frenzy scene in the automat. There aren't as many twists and turns in the plot as you might expect from Sturges, but just about every scene has something hilarious. There are great supporting performances (actually better than Milland's starring performance IMO) from Edward Arnold, Franklin Pangborn, Luis Alberni, and Esther Dale. There's even a scene that reminds me of the telephone scene in HIS GIRL FRIDAY, with frenzied, overlapping conversations and criss-crossing telephone wires, and the boss shouting a barrage of conflicting instructions. Sturges and/or Leisen may have been inspired by THE FRONT PAGE (1931), of which HIS GIRL FRIDAY was a remake, but it's very well done here. But now I'm getting too analytical. It's just a great screwball comedy.
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| QUOTE (Domestique @ Nov 17 2007, 12:43 PM) | | By the way, sorry for resurrecting such an old thread. |
Nothing wrong with resurrecting an old thread at all. In fact, it prevents people from creating duplicate threads which happens all the time. Good to see this poll is still up.
Personally, I love Screwball comedies but I am largely partial to Cary Grant comedies although, ironically, I did not like His Girl Friday. I thought that was one of Cary's weakest screwballs! I also thought that Billy Wilder's "One, Two, Three" is one of the best comedies of all time, but never gets the credit of his lesser works like "Some Like it Hot", so that tells you that popular is not always better, at least I think not.
Dr. David
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I haven't voted in this poll, and I probably won't. There does not seem to be a consensus here about what does, and what does not, constitute a "screwball comedy." Michael Mills of Palace Classic Films traces the term to "films where everything was a juxtaposition: educated and uneducated, rich and poor, intelligent and stupid, honest and dishonest, and most of all male and female. When two people fell in love, they did not simply surrender to their feelings, they battled it out." But he also cites film critic James Agee's description of a Laurel and Hardy scene in which the two men are moving a piano across a narrow suspension bridge in the alps, and halfway across they meet a gorilla. Very funny, I'm sure, but notice that in the L&H example, there is no sex. On this very thread, our own Precoder wrote: "Somewhere along the line, some cinema mogul decided what a screwball comedy is and what one isn't ... And it sorta stuck ... But it's still too vague for me to fully understand. Surely the sex element is a mild requirement but what else qualifies it, and what doesn't?" I'd still like to know. Wikipedia says, in part: "While there is no authoritative list of the defining characteristics of the screwball comedy genre, films considered to be definitive of the genre usually feature farcical situations, a combination of slapstick with fast-paced repartee, and a plot involving courtship and marriage or remarriage." Someone here cited The Philadelphia Story (1940) as a screwball comedy. The fast-paced repartee is there, and the courtship, but WHERE is the slapstick? Okay, taking all the above -- the romance angle, the farce, the slapstick, especially the fast-paced repartee -- I'd have to say the premier screwball comedy of all time is: (drum roll, please) Arsenic and Old Lace (1944). It isn't on your list, but I'd say this one fits "screwball comedy" to a T! Cheers, Dan http://www.silentfilmguide.com
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I love screwball comedies! I think they're my favourite genre
Some I love are (not in order)
His Girl Friday 1940 The Philadelphia Story 1940 Bringing Up Baby 1938 My Man Godfrey 1936 Libeled Lady 1936 It Happened One Night 1934 The Awful Truth 1937 Arsenic and Old Lace 1944 Wife vs Secretery 1936 The Seven Year Itch 1955 Some Like It Hot 1959
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I notice that here, as in other polls, Bringing up Baby (1938) gets the number one position as "best screwball comedy."
But I've never warmed up to that movie. It never makes me laugh, and when it comes on Turner Classic Movies, I avoid it like the plague.
No, I'm not being ornery. I wasn't sure why Bringing up Baby wasn't ringing my chimes, but I recently read that Howard Hawks, its director, pointed out its main flaw. Hawks -- as reported by Roger Ebert, dean of American film criticism -- said that the flaw in his film is that everyone in it is a screwball; there's no baseline of sanity to measure the characters against.
That may be it. In another classic screwball comedy, The Lady Eve (1941), the placid Henry Fonda provides the rock. He is completely sane and proper, and it is the world around him (populated by such comic actors as Barbara Stanwyck and Charles Coburn) that acts crazy.
With that ideal in mind, I would say that the greatest screwball comedy of them all would be Arsenic and Old Lace (1944). In that one, the Cary Grant character is very much the sane, sensible center; it is all the rest of the people in his world that are "screwballs."
Cheers, Dan
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I love some of the lesser known comedies.
Mad Miss Manton The Ex Mrs Bradford Star Of Midnight Mother is a Freshman
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I think the greatest screwball comedy of all - and there were some truly wonderful ones - is "Adam's Rib". Witty, sophisticated, beautifully acted and directed and with contemporary issues about sexual politics it just hasn't ever dated! The magic between Tracy/Hepburn/Cukor has never been equalled on the screen IMO. I remember Gavin Lambert saying on a DVD Special Features, "when I was at film school we watched it and we all thought 'this is what we want: this is perfection". Agree 20 times over!!
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