Oblivion is a very good RPG game - if you like to play console style RPGs on a PC.. :lol: I don't really want to show all its features, there are lots of screenshots out there for you if you're interested. I'll just say that even though it's a somewhat buggy game (especially the German version which I have), it's still a lot of fun to play! :)

Compared to The Elder Scrolls III (Morrowind), it's a less "smart" game in some aspects, being obviously developed for consoles.. simplified, but that makes it easier to play too, and it's not as much at the cost of your fun as you might think in the beginning if you were a Morrowind fan..

So.. here some screenies, low res, compressed for a quick load.. Might look better on your own screen. (Some got anti-aliasing off too, the game needs that to make screenshots by itself.)

Guess what..

Yup. A Gate to Oblivion ;)


And that's the gate back to Tamriel. B)


A cool shot of the Imperial City at sunset.. or dawn, I forgot.. :lol:
Yup, you can ride horses, but you can't fight on horseback.. Quite a feature they missed to include. :(

Some battle screens:


Ouch! Those Goblin Archers sure know where to aim!! :o (Image on the right is the same one with ++brightness.)


Not all of the enemies you meet do :P


Beware, they use basic TW strats! Getting doubled is normal, in fact, you can be happy if there are less than 5 at a time coming at you. :lol: You get allies as well though, I have fought a battle with 6 city guards & legionaries on my side vs dozens of Daedra creatures.. Makes it harder in some ways.. You must actually take care who you are slashing :P

A few more coming, I just reached the smiley limit! And I'm watching TV too, hehe

Me vs Skeleton, standard difficulty


Me vs Skele, maxed out difficulty :D


Before I could finish it off, I got killed twice by this... fish :lol:

But then, what are your chances agains flying super-fish? :P


Screenie of water surface.. Rain done nicely B) Too bad your character doesn't get reflected :o , only world objects. :( (Perhaps it's just my system, dunno.)

Enough screenies for now I guess.

Looks very nice... of course I'll still spam your xfire when you're playing it and I'm bored. :D

You mean, like this? You're welcome to! Hehe..
BTW.. I just noticed I left out a part of the Lord's Prayer, tsk tsk. Then again, it's hard to concentrate on things like that while a skeleton is shooting arrows at you.

[17:05] Dinadan: gonna play some oblivion.. cya l8er
[17:05] NihilisticCow: ok cya
[17:06] Dinadan: cool it displayed in-game this time :P
[17:06] Dinadan: doesnt always do
[17:06] NihilisticCow: lol
[17:06] Dinadan: haha not working anymore
[17:06] Dinadan: silly xfire
[17:07] Dinadan: bla
[17:07] Dinadan: hmm
[17:07] Dinadan: no
[17:07] Dinadan: or..
[17:07] Dinadan: yesssssssssssss
[17:07] NihilisticCow: lol
[17:07] Dinadan: it works
[17:07] Dinadan: yea it does
[17:07] Dinadan: this time
[17:07] Dinadan: ?)
[17:07] NihilisticCow: it'll stop soon
[17:07] Dinadan: quite
[17:07] Dinadan: :P
[17:08] NihilisticCow: but if you like I can keep spamming messages while you're playing, so you'll wish it didn't ;-)
[17:08] Dinadan: thx
[17:08] Dinadan: thats nice of u
[17:08] Dinadan: :)
[17:08] NihilisticCow: np
[17:08] NihilisticCow: anything to be annoying
[17:08] Dinadan: but it does crash the game sometimes :P
[17:08] Dinadan: lol
[17:09] NihilisticCow: even better
[17:09] Dinadan: :D
[17:09] Dinadan: alt-tabbing likes to crash
[17:09] NihilisticCow: it's always fun when Maud is playing AA
[17:09] Dinadan: :)
[17:09] Dinadan: i do that to blitz :D
[17:09] NihilisticCow: lol
[17:09] Dinadan: "watch the sniper!!!!"
[17:09] Dinadan: "aah too late :P"
[17:09] NihilisticCow: rofl
[17:10] NihilisticCow: Maud gives you more source material in a way, since he's very anti-american military, but plays a game sponsored by them ;-)
[17:10] Dinadan: haha
[17:10] Dinadan: true
[17:10] NihilisticCow: so lots of comments like enjoying playing pretend American soldiers works quite well ;-)
[17:11] Dinadan: :P
[17:11] Dinadan: i enjoy playing pretending to be a rothwardon warrior :)
[17:11] NihilisticCow: lol
[17:11] Dinadan: oops
[17:11] Dinadan: gotta kill a bandit :P
[17:12] Dinadan: argh
[17:12] NihilisticCow: lol
[17:12] Dinadan: 2 of his hits landed
[17:12] Dinadan: blocked 3
[17:12] NihilisticCow: oh no!
[17:12] Dinadan: but he's dead muhaha
[17:12] NihilisticCow: lol
[17:12] NihilisticCow: shame
[17:12] Dinadan: :)
[17:12] NihilisticCow: that's not very nice now is it?
[17:12] Dinadan: he attacked me
[17:12] NihilisticCow: poor innocent little bandit
[17:12] NihilisticCow: you brutally murdered
[17:12] Dinadan: i'm a nice warrior
[17:12] Dinadan: :P
[17:13] NihilisticCow: that's no excuse
[17:13] Dinadan: i dont kill people
[17:13] NihilisticCow: he could have just been greeting you
[17:13] Dinadan: unless they have a lot of gold
[17:13] Dinadan: :P
[17:13] NihilisticCow: but, no
[17:13] NihilisticCow: you just brutally and savagely attacked and murdered him
[17:13] Dinadan: ya he greeted me with a mace :D
[17:13] NihilisticCow: hope you get shot now
[17:13] Dinadan: shots can be blocked :D
[17:13] Dinadan: they dont have guns
[17:13] Dinadan: arrows only
[17:13] NihilisticCow: onager'd then :-P
[17:13] Dinadan: O_O
[17:14] Dinadan: onager inaccurate vs troops ,)
[17:14] NihilisticCow: yep, but all you need is one lucky shot
[17:14] Dinadan: well i'm in a dungeon :)
[17:14] NihilisticCow: and life will be so much more peaceful :-P
[17:14] Dinadan: haha
[17:15] Dinadan: the lucky shot is the help text from RTW isnt it
[17:15] NihilisticCow: lol
[17:15] Dinadan: the centurion says something funny about big rocks
[17:15] Dinadan: i think
[17:16] Dinadan: aha
[17:16] Dinadan: theres another guy
[17:16] Dinadan: an archer this time
[17:16] Dinadan: lets see if his arrows are better than my fireball :D
[17:16] NihilisticCow: lol
[17:16] Dinadan: oops
[17:16] Dinadan: its a she
[17:17] Dinadan: and she has a two-handed hammer :D
[17:17] NihilisticCow: lol
[17:17] NihilisticCow: reminds me of a night out....
[17:17] Dinadan: lol
[17:17] Dinadan: :D
[17:17] Dinadan: good 1
[17:17] Dinadan: she's easy to block tho
[17:17] Dinadan: takes lotsa time to swing a hammer
[17:17] NihilisticCow: no fun then
[17:17] Dinadan: yes fun
[17:18] NihilisticCow: just let yourself get hit
[17:18] NihilisticCow: only fair
[17:18] Dinadan: fun watching her hitting my shiled only
[17:18] Dinadan: well
[17:18] Dinadan: you get a bit hurt if you block too
[17:18] Dinadan: as you should
[17:18] Dinadan: guess it hurts to get hammered even if you use a shield
[17:18] NihilisticCow: why should I get hurt if you block?
[17:18] Dinadan: thats why :)
[17:19] Dinadan: minor HP loss
[17:19] Dinadan: aha
[17:19] Dinadan: a trap
[17:19] NihilisticCow: so any eles yet?
[17:19] Dinadan: but i'm cunning
[17:19] Dinadan: no
[17:19] NihilisticCow: why not?
[17:19] Dinadan: but there is a rope
[17:19] Dinadan: across the floor
[17:19] NihilisticCow: but not any eles
[17:19] Dinadan: nope
[17:19] NihilisticCow: I think you need eles
[17:19] Dinadan: dont fit in the dungeon
[17:19] NihilisticCow: no excuse
[17:20] NihilisticCow: you need eles
[17:20] NihilisticCow: now
[17:20] Dinadan: there are trolls though
[17:20] NihilisticCow: eles are more fun
[17:20] Dinadan: eles banned sry
[17:20] Dinadan: :)
[17:20] Dinadan: lets see what the trap does
[17:20] NihilisticCow: rubbish
[17:20] NihilisticCow: ele spam them then
[17:20] NihilisticCow: run over it with an ele
[17:20] Dinadan: nah
[17:20] NihilisticCow: traps won't work then
[17:20] Dinadan: i looked up the ceiling
[17:20] Dinadan: there are maces
[17:20] NihilisticCow: see you needed eles
[17:20] Dinadan: that will hit me
[17:20] NihilisticCow: and you didn't have any
[17:20] NihilisticCow: you're just rubbish really
[17:21] NihilisticCow: dead yet then?
[17:21] Dinadan: nope
[17:21] NihilisticCow: dead yet then?
[17:21] Dinadan: i cunningly cut the rope from a distance :)
[17:22] NihilisticCow: ahhh
[17:22] Dinadan: then killed 2 other bandits
[17:22] NihilisticCow: the old cutting rope trick :-P
[17:22] Dinadan: :)
[17:22] NihilisticCow: eles would have been better
[17:22] Dinadan: ya but alas they dont fit in the dungeon
[17:22] NihilisticCow: make the dungeon bigger
[17:22] NihilisticCow: with an ele
[17:22] NihilisticCow: simple
[17:22] Dinadan: hmm
[17:22] Dinadan: some1 just drew a sword
[17:22] NihilisticCow: they're a panacea for everything
[17:23] NihilisticCow: so you ele spam him
[17:23] NihilisticCow: simple
[17:23] Dinadan: bandit leader
[17:23] NihilisticCow: am I getting annoying yet?
[17:23] Dinadan: he said fall and bleed to death O_O
[17:23] NihilisticCow: lol
[17:23] Dinadan: but he fell and bleeded to death :)
[17:23] NihilisticCow: friendly guy
[17:23] Dinadan: so am i :D
[17:23] NihilisticCow: yes tell me about it
[17:23] NihilisticCow: :-D
[17:24] NihilisticCow: they don't call you Shout the complete and utter bastard for nothing :-P
[17:24] Dinadan: lol
[17:24] Dinadan: they dont ,)
[17:24] Dinadan: aargh
[17:24] Dinadan: magic arrows
[17:24] Dinadan: and my shield wasnt in front of me
[17:25] NihilisticCow: sounds just like Rome
[17:25] Dinadan: :)
[17:25] Dinadan: lol
[17:25] Dinadan: actually
[17:25] NihilisticCow: everyone I face always seems to have "magic" arrows
[17:25] Dinadan: i can go berderk :P
[17:25] NihilisticCow: but can you do that in game as well? :-P
[17:25] Dinadan: haha
[17:25] Dinadan: yup
[17:26] Dinadan: sneaking up from behind
[17:26] Dinadan: "must be the wind" she says
[17:26] Dinadan: well she saw me
[17:27] Dinadan: sneak ability too low
[17:27] Dinadan: so instead of assassinating i just cut her to pieces
[17:27] NihilisticCow: same old problem eh?
[17:27] Dinadan: O_O
[17:27] Dinadan: :)
[17:27] Dinadan: reminds me of the barb cav charging zerks
[17:28] Dinadan: i guess i should set the difficulty higher
[17:28] Dinadan: i kill with 3 hits O_O
[17:28] Dinadan: and i am level 2
[17:29] Dinadan: u been talking coz u wanna play some BI?
[17:30] NihilisticCow: nahh, don't really have the time
[17:30] NihilisticCow: so just annoying you instead :-D
[17:30] Dinadan: :)
[17:30] NihilisticCow: have to get a train a little later
[17:30] Dinadan: going to work somewhere?
[17:30] NihilisticCow: shrewsbury for a week again
[17:30] Dinadan: sounds... fun? :D
[17:31] NihilisticCow: well... no
[17:31] Dinadan: but you need the money anyway
[17:31] Dinadan: how old are you? i forgot
[17:32] Dinadan: just a bit older than me
[17:32] Dinadan: iirc
[17:32] NihilisticCow: 26
[17:32] Dinadan: out of college for how long?
[17:32] NihilisticCow: since 21
[17:32] Dinadan: really?
[17:33] NihilisticCow: yep
[17:33] Dinadan: 3 years of it?
[17:33] NihilisticCow: 3 years of uni yep
[17:33] NihilisticCow: that's normal for UK
[17:33] Dinadan: cool
[17:33] Dinadan: so 5 years of work lol
[17:33] NihilisticCow: afraid so
[17:33] Dinadan: but still alive
[17:34] NihilisticCow: barely
[17:34] Dinadan: well ,that gives hope
[17:34] NihilisticCow: lol
[17:34] Dinadan: :P
[17:34] NihilisticCow: you're still at college?
[17:34] Dinadan: yes i am
[17:34] NihilisticCow: much longer to go?
[17:34] Dinadan: being a parasite to my parents, u know :)
[17:35] Dinadan: nah
[17:35] NihilisticCow: lol best way
[17:35] Dinadan: i could have finished last year
[17:35] Dinadan: i could have finished this year
[17:35] Dinadan: but...
[17:35] Dinadan: O_O
[17:35] NihilisticCow: lol
[17:35] Dinadan: whats the point anyway
[17:35] NihilisticCow: yep
[17:35] Dinadan: until they tolerate it :P
[17:36] Dinadan: not nice :D
[17:36] NihilisticCow: lol
[17:36] Dinadan: grr
[17:37] Dinadan: repair hammer breaking all the time
[17:37] NihilisticCow: lol
[17:37] NihilisticCow: I have that problem a lot
[17:37] Dinadan: they made a very silly repair concept
[17:37] Dinadan: really lol
[17:37] NihilisticCow: where the repair stuff breaks?
[17:37] Dinadan: hammers dont have a maximum use they just break sometimes
[17:38] NihilisticCow: so can you get another hammer to repair the hammer?
[17:38] Dinadan: lol
[17:38] Dinadan: nope
[17:38] NihilisticCow: and another hammer to repair the hammer to repair the hammer
[17:38] Dinadan: but
[17:38] Dinadan: you can save after a succesful repair attempt
[17:38] Dinadan: and reload if the hammer breaks
[17:38] NihilisticCow: what about a hammer to repair another hammer to repair the hammer to repair the hammer
[17:38] Dinadan: :D
[17:38] NihilisticCow: so you cheat basically :-
[17:38] Dinadan: hammers cant be repaired sry
[17:38] NihilisticCow: :-P
[17:38] Dinadan: yup
[17:39] Dinadan: basically
[17:39] Dinadan: i just reload
[17:39] NihilisticCow: what about hammers to repair a hammer to repair another hammer to repair the hammer to repair the hammer

[17:39] Dinadan: its a game feature
[17:39] Dinadan: dont need it
[17:39] Dinadan: i got quickload
[17:39] Dinadan: and quicksave
[17:39] Dinadan: :P
[17:39] NihilisticCow: lol
[17:39] NihilisticCow: so are you dead yet?
[17:39] Dinadan: no sorry
[17:39] NihilisticCow: rubbish
[17:40] Dinadan: but i know this dungeon there will be 2 zombies past that coffin over there :P
[17:40] Dinadan: magic concept is silly too
[17:40] NihilisticCow: there always are
[17:40] Dinadan: magicka gets regenerated automatically
[17:40] Dinadan: nah
[17:40] Dinadan: this one is extremely silly
[17:40] NihilisticCow: lol
[17:40] Dinadan: ya
[17:41] Dinadan: lebedis is champ :)
[17:41] NihilisticCow: yep he told me too :-P
[17:41] Dinadan: so.. i got healing magic..
[17:41] Dinadan: and i got unlimited time
[17:41] Dinadan: and time = + magicka
[17:41] Dinadan: so..
[17:41] Dinadan: i only die if they get me somewhere i cant escape ,)
[17:41] Dinadan: or if i dont care
[17:42] Dinadan: since i got quickload ,)Ö
[17:43] NihilisticCow: don't ever quick save then
[17:43] NihilisticCow: simple
[17:43] Dinadan: :)
[17:43] Dinadan: impossible
[17:43] Dinadan: cant stop my hand
[17:43] NihilisticCow: lol
[17:43] Dinadan: it has an own will
[17:43] Dinadan: nooo hand dont!! nooo!!!
[17:43] Dinadan: aaarghhh!!!!!
[17:43] Dinadan: gah
[17:43] NihilisticCow: lol
[17:43] Dinadan: oops.. I did it again :D
[17:44] NihilisticCow: I know what you need
[17:44] Dinadan: ? :P
[17:44] NihilisticCow: The Lords Prayer in Gothic :-P
[17:44] Dinadan: from your own experience? :D
[17:44] NihilisticCow: Atta unsar, ?u in himinam,

[17:44] Dinadan: :)
[17:44] NihilisticCow: weihnai namo ?ein,

[17:44] NihilisticCow: qimai ?iudinassus ?eins,

[17:44] Dinadan: lol
[17:44] NihilisticCow: swe in himina jah ana air?ai.

[17:44] NihilisticCow: Hlaif unsarana ?ana sinteinan gif uns himma daga,

[17:44] NihilisticCow: jah aflet uns ?atei skulans sijaima,

[17:44] Dinadan: baba yetu yetu uliye
[17:45] NihilisticCow: swaswe jah weis afletam ?aim skulam unsaraim,

[17:45] NihilisticCow: jah ni briggais uns in fraistubnjai,

[17:45] Dinadan: mbinguni yetu yetu amina
[17:45] NihilisticCow: ak lausei uns af ?amma ubilin;

[17:45] NihilisticCow: unte ?eina ist ?iudangardi

[17:45] NihilisticCow: jah mahts jah wul?us in aiwins

[17:45] Dinadan: :P
[17:45] NihilisticCow: Amen.

[17:45] NihilisticCow: there you are
[17:45] NihilisticCow: :-P
[17:45] Dinadan: miatyánk
[17:45] Dinadan: aki a mennyekben vagy
[17:45] NihilisticCow: lol
[17:45] Dinadan: szenteltessék meg a te neved
[17:45] Dinadan: legyen meg a te akaratod
[17:45] Dinadan: amint a mennyben azonképp a földön is
[17:45] Dinadan: és ne vigy minket kísértésbe
[17:46] NihilisticCow: ???? ??? ?? ??????? ??,

[17:46] Dinadan: de szabadíts meg a gonosztól
[17:46] NihilisticCow: ????? ????? ????? ??:

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[17:46] Dinadan: mert tied az ország
[17:46] Dinadan: a hatalom
[17:46] Dinadan: és a dicsõség
[17:46] Dinadan: mindörökkön örökké
[17:46] Dinadan: ámen
[17:46] NihilisticCow: ????????????
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[17:46] Dinadan: :P
[17:46] NihilisticCow: ?????????????

[17:46] Dinadan: well cow
[17:46] Dinadan: difference is
[17:46] NihilisticCow: is it helping?
[17:46] Dinadan: i dont copy+paste :D
[17:46] NihilisticCow: lol
[17:46] Dinadan: nope
[17:46] NihilisticCow: but I just cheat though
[17:47] NihilisticCow: much easier :-P
[17:47] Dinadan: yup
[17:47] Dinadan: see u got no morality at all :P
[17:47] Dinadan: and u tell me not to quicksave :D
[17:47] NihilisticCow: takes me ages to get all the é signs anyhow
[17:47] Dinadan: ok doing zombies
[17:47] NihilisticCow: since English keyboards only really do áéíóú
[17:48] Dinadan: zombie = funny
[17:48] Dinadan: slow attack
[17:48] NihilisticCow: I know weird hungarian keyboards probably do other stuff
[17:48] Dinadan: i dont have to block
[17:48] NihilisticCow: easy then
[17:48] Dinadan: just run away :D
[17:48] Dinadan: weird hungarian keyboards have 101 keys i think at least
[17:48] Dinadan: and can do these : öüóõúéáûí
[17:48] NihilisticCow: what do you need all them for?
[17:48] Dinadan: we need them for öüóõú
[17:48] Dinadan: éáûí
[17:48] Dinadan: :P
[17:49] NihilisticCow: lol
[17:49] NihilisticCow: why don't you just speak properly then, instead of scribbling all that stuff above letters?
[17:49] NihilisticCow: :-D
[17:49] Dinadan: we speak properly :P
[17:49] Dinadan: with these letters
[17:49] Dinadan: you can write any european language
[17:49] Dinadan: as SPOKEN
[17:49] NihilisticCow: you just like making things look weird
[17:49] Dinadan: :P
[17:49] Dinadan: fonetically
[17:50] NihilisticCow: phonetically?
[17:50] Dinadan: phonetically
[17:50] Dinadan: :)
[17:50] NihilisticCow: :-P
[17:50] Dinadan: while YOU
[17:50] Dinadan: lol
[17:50] Dinadan: just try to write down a french word
[17:50] Dinadan: and pronounce it
[17:50] NihilisticCow: merde
[17:50] NihilisticCow: easy
[17:50] NihilisticCow: salope
[17:50] NihilisticCow: are there any other French words?
[17:50] Dinadan: :P
[17:51] Dinadan: these arent pronounced in the english way either
[17:51] Dinadan: merde with english pron = quite different from french :)
[17:51] NihilisticCow: that's only because the French pronounce them wrongly
[17:51] Dinadan: :)
[17:51] NihilisticCow: Leb says he'll help spamming your xfire now :-P
[17:52] Dinadan: got 1 zombie
[17:52] Dinadan: 1 to go
[17:52] NihilisticCow: that took some time
[17:52] NihilisticCow: what are you playing at?
[17:52] Dinadan: guess what it had on it
[17:52] Dinadan: "dead meat"
[17:52] Dinadan: :P
[17:52] NihilisticCow: lol
[17:52] Dinadan: i was talking ,)
[17:52] Dinadan: cant type and fight same time
[17:53] NihilisticCow: just like Americans really :-P
[17:53] Dinadan: ? :)
[17:53] NihilisticCow: talking and walking that is
[17:53] Dinadan: why
[17:53] Dinadan: :)
[17:53] Dinadan: lol
[17:53] Dinadan: as in, they cant? ,)
[17:54] NihilisticCow: yep
[17:54] Dinadan: 2nd thought, can they sit or stand + talk at the same time? :)
[17:54] NihilisticCow: pushing it
[17:54] NihilisticCow: :-P
[17:54] Dinadan: my torch went out
[17:54] Dinadan: zombie no 3
[17:54] NihilisticCow: lol
[17:55] Dinadan: it was w8ing in the dark for me
[17:55] Dinadan: but i got gamma correcture lol
[17:55] NihilisticCow: lol
[17:55] NihilisticCow: more cheats....
[17:55] Dinadan: jk tho
[17:55] Dinadan: i dont use that :)
[17:55] Dinadan: music changes if they attack anyway ,)
[17:55] NihilisticCow: well I wouldn't put it past people who use lots of weird scribbles above letters
[17:55] Dinadan: aaargh
[17:56] NihilisticCow: lol
[17:56] Dinadan: ran past got hit in the back :D
[17:56] Dinadan: lots of languages have more than 18 or 24 letters ,)
[17:56] Dinadan: guess you got a problem with LOTR too then :D
[17:56] NihilisticCow: Miatyánk, aki a mennyekben vagy,
Szenteltessék meg a Te neved.
Jöjjön el a Te országod,
Legyen meg a te akaratod,
Amint a mennyben, úgy a földön is.
Mindennapi kenyerünket add meg nekünk ma,
És bocsássd meg a mi vétkeinket,
miként mi is megbocsátunk az ellenünk vétkezõknek.
És ne vígy minket a kísértésbe,
de szabadíts meg a gonosztól.
[Mert tiéd az Ország, a Hatalom és a Dicsõség,
mindörökkön-örökké.]
Ámen.

[17:57] NihilisticCow: looks very silly to me
[17:57] Dinadan: well
[17:57] Dinadan: its a rayer
[17:57] NihilisticCow: :-P
[17:57] Dinadan: ofc it does :D
[17:57] Dinadan: *prayer gah
[17:57] NihilisticCow: lol
[17:58] Dinadan: should be 2 skeleton archers here iirc
[17:58] Dinadan: wow
[17:58] Dinadan: its so much easier with a warrior than a mage
[17:58] Dinadan: this is ridiculous
[17:58] Dinadan: crappy balance
[17:59] NihilisticCow: lol
[17:59] Dinadan: well i know the dungeon ofc this time
[17:59] Dinadan: but thats not a real excuse
[18:00] Dinadan: haha i like this trap
[18:00] NihilisticCow: lol
[18:00] Dinadan: will kill 2 skeletons for me
[18:00] Dinadan: an entire floor section
[18:00] Dinadan: that will fall
[18:00] Dinadan: into spikes
[18:00] Dinadan: ofc its pretty obvious
[18:00] Dinadan: with the big bloody holes in it :D
[18:01] NihilisticCow: sounds fun
[18:01] Dinadan: :)
[18:01] Dinadan: i got some funny pics already
[18:01] Dinadan: might post them some time
[18:03] Dinadan: 2 rooms and 6 skeletons later... :)
[18:04] NihilisticCow: average day at the office really
[18:04] Dinadan: :D
[18:05] Dinadan: esp with my repair hammer breaking again
[18:05] Dinadan: i'm much more daring this time than my 1st play
[18:06] Dinadan: just go through dungeons like a tank
[18:06] Dinadan: O_O
[18:07] NihilisticCow: or an elephant?
[18:07] Dinadan: no
[18:07] Dinadan: but armoured anyway :)
[18:07] NihilisticCow: lol
[18:07] NihilisticCow: ahh, an armoured elephant
[18:07] Dinadan: ya
[18:07] NihilisticCow: so do you go amok when people fire fire arrows at you?
[18:08] Dinadan: i certainly fo
[18:08] Dinadan: *do
[18:08] Dinadan: u like being shot with fire arrowsM
[18:08] Dinadan: ?
[18:08] Dinadan: :)
[18:08] NihilisticCow: explains a lot
[18:08] NihilisticCow: well cows are immune to that kind of thing :-P
[18:08] Dinadan: i just maxed out difficulty
[18:08] Dinadan: lets see what a skeleton can do
[18:08] Dinadan: sure.. mad cows
[18:09] Dinadan: wow
[18:10] NihilisticCow: didn't crash did it?
[18:10] Dinadan: xfire screenshot crashed it :P
[18:10] Dinadan: just when i would die :D
[18:10] NihilisticCow: lol
[18:10] Dinadan: skele much tougher this way
[18:10] Dinadan: and i was careless :)
[18:11] Dinadan: but since this game has 2x better gfx than RTW it loads 2x faster too :D
[18:12] NihilisticCow: lol
[18:12] Dinadan: got the skele
[18:12] Dinadan: oops
[18:12] NihilisticCow: congrats
[18:12] NihilisticCow: lol
[18:13] Dinadan: screenshot lol
[18:13] NihilisticCow: you know you could treat that as a learning experience? :-P
[18:13] NihilisticCow: did you keep sticking your hand into a fire as a Kid?
[18:13] Dinadan: :)
[18:14] Dinadan: xfire not working ingame now
[18:14] NihilisticCow: awwww
[18:14] Dinadan: trying again
[18:14] Dinadan: nope
[18:15] Dinadan: silly thing



[18:16] Dinadan: back again
[18:16] NihilisticCow: yippe
[18:16] Dinadan: :)
[18:16] Dinadan: learned 1 thing
[18:16] Dinadan: dont use xfire while loading a game :P
[18:16] NihilisticCow: lol
[18:16] NihilisticCow: does it count for messages aswell?
[18:17] Dinadan: :P
[18:17] Dinadan: nope
[18:17] Dinadan: hehe
[18:17] NihilisticCow: so can I crash it by messaging you as it's loading
[18:17] NihilisticCow: awwww
[18:17] NihilisticCow: no fun
[18:17] Dinadan: haha skele archer
[18:17] Dinadan: was easy
[18:17] Dinadan: didnt switch to melee weapon
[18:18] Dinadan: guess it forgot to press ALT :)
[18:18] NihilisticCow: lol
[18:18] Dinadan: now i gotta w8 and regenerate
[18:18] Dinadan: coz the skele axeman killed me nearly
[18:19] NihilisticCow: so close....
[18:19] Dinadan: well i was killed once
[18:19] Dinadan: but that crashed
[18:20] Dinadan: highest difficulty = not fun :P
[18:20] Dinadan: too much loading :D
[18:20] NihilisticCow: lol
[18:20] NihilisticCow: I suppose it's like playing against me in Rome :-P
[18:20] Dinadan: less tanky :)
[18:20] Dinadan: lol
[18:20] Dinadan: not NEARLY
[18:20] Dinadan: ?D
[18:20] NihilisticCow: lol
[18:21] Dinadan: but i can check lowest diff if thats more like it :)
[18:21] NihilisticCow: lol
[18:21] Dinadan: or another crack:
[18:21] Dinadan: highest diff = playing on YOUR side :P
[18:21] Dinadan: not funny? P
[18:22] Dinadan: i can advance level now
[18:22] NihilisticCow: lol
[18:22] Dinadan: i need a bed though
[18:22] NihilisticCow: it's funny how often people miss genious I find
[18:22] Dinadan: :P
[18:22] NihilisticCow: :-D
[18:22] Dinadan: yup i know the feeling :D
[18:22] NihilisticCow: lol
[18:23] NihilisticCow: how?
[18:23] Dinadan: by own experience ofc .. being missed as one :P
[18:23] Dinadan: in fact
[18:23] Dinadan: i wasnt missed most of the time :D
[18:23] NihilisticCow: lol
[18:24] Dinadan: people do acknowledge greatness sometimes :D
[18:24] NihilisticCow: anyways, I have to get sorted now I think
[18:24] Dinadan: ya
[18:24] NihilisticCow: so will have to stop annoying you
[18:24] Dinadan: hf in shrewsbury
[18:24] NihilisticCow: perhaps...
[18:24] NihilisticCow: anyway, cya in a week or so
[18:24] Dinadan: dont tell me
[18:25] Dinadan: you dont have a job you dont find entertaining :P
[18:25] NihilisticCow: lol
[18:25] Dinadan: come on i know you like the chores
[18:25] NihilisticCow: well I'm doing a software job while I look for another job
[18:25] NihilisticCow: so all fun...
[18:25] Dinadan: :)
[18:25] NihilisticCow: lol
[18:25] Dinadan: dont complain then :D
[18:25] NihilisticCow: why?
[18:25] Dinadan: lol
[18:25] NihilisticCow: complaining is fun
[18:25] Dinadan: good point :D
[18:26] Dinadan: alright cow
[18:26] Dinadan: cy in a week
[18:26] NihilisticCow: yep cya
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lol, that was it. ;)

it replaced all my nice Armenian and Japanese (and another language I didn't have a clue what it was) with question marks though... :(

Ah, too bad.. :lol: Don't worry, I saw the correct characters when we were chatting, it was just saved in a text format that doesn't support them ;)

BTW, anyone here about to get Oblivion? I'm curious. (Single player only ofc)

Ah yeah, and talk about crappy balance.. I found out that if you're a magician with good enough illusion skill, you'll never ever get killed.. provided you don't mind to exploit the use of invisibility spells. But ofc you had similar ways to deal with Morrowind too if you wanted. Everyone can play their style.

I've started playing it but not really got into it....

TBH I havn't advanced much in the main quest either.. explored + restarted with a new character :D It's just as time-consuming as any good RPG, if you have the time to be consumed :lol:

I'm addicted to it. Just stopped playing a minute ago actually. Due to my crappy system I basically have to run it at the lowest settings, because I don't feel like running it in a window that only takes up half the screen. :(

It's definitely fun though. I'm a wood elf/ thief specialist. marksman skill is probably my best attack. easiest money maker for me so far is alchemy...rose about 40 levels in the time it took me to go up like 5-7 in strength. i still haven't joined the dark brotherhood, just mage, thief, fighters guilds, and the blades.

Those who have better systems should think about playing this, it's a wonderful looking game.

Can a marksman deal with dungeons easily? Like caves in Oblivion, with high-level monsters?

Have you ever bought a single piece of weaponry/armour? :D It seems to me shops are mainly there so that you can sell the uber equipment you strip off dead foes... And get alchemy stuff instead :lol: The equipment available in shops tends to be weaker than what you already have :rolleyes: Silly.

The Star of Azura (indestructible soul gem) or w/e it's called in English is still the best artifact isn't it? Nice of them to give away the location for the main quest, I didn't feel silly enough to sacrifice it though :lol:

I don't feel like killing innocent guys either.. Havn't started Dark Brotherhood (you have to murder someone!!!!! :o ) and did all I could against becoming a vampire, including reloads. <_<

Alchemy, enchanting and own spells still pwn like in Morrowind, alchemy still gives you levels easily. Merchant skill doesn't anymore, but the armourer skill is likely to (was a surprise to me) if you fight with weapons mainly, not magic --- and are determined to reload for too many broken hammers. :P Low magic skills are fairly easy to train to decent levels..

BUT.. you don't really need to gain levels here, to me it looks as though they actually managed to level out creatures to be defeatable for you at any point of the game. Which also means you won't be able to get the best armour at level 5, coz it won't be on the map. <_<

Yup, looks great. I just need to turn off grass every now and then to find the weapons they drop in the scrubs. Actually, I sometimes can't even find the bodies after a battle vs more opponents if grass detail is on :lol:

What class are you using Dinadan? Being mainly a marksman makes it a bit tougher in dungeons, but not impossible. Its much harder in the Oblivion gates though. So I spent some time to get at least proficient with h2h weapons, upping my strength. Archery made no sense to me in morrowind, I'd be dead on target, but still miss. I know basically why it was, because I wasn't as leveled up, and the target's agility may have negated any advantage I may have. I dunno. So thats why I went with an archer-based character.

Using stealth and playing smart helps a lot. You can't always just rush people. I'm constantly casting spells, to level up quicker. I cast Detect Life a ton, along with shield and light spells. Helps level you up. I'd cast the bind spells so I could get my conjuration skills up, but don't have any yet. <_<

I think I'm at level 7 or something, and haven't gone far at all in the main quest. I just dropped whats his name off at the Blades homeplace, up in the mountain, and am supposed to go back to the Imperial City to see someone, don't remember whom. At that point, I just basically went off and did other stuff. I want to try some other characters, but want to stick with my current character. I spent like an hour fiddling with his appearance. ;)

I am using a self-defined fighter class, main skills are swordsmanship, blocking, light armour (my fighting style is hit & run :D ) 2x magic skills (destruction & healing type), alchemy and acrobatics, latter is hard & boring to advance, but I want to see what it's like when I can dodge attacks. Speed + strength are probably the preferred attributes I picked, forgot that, and I chose the stars that give you some extra strength..

This is my 2nd character, the original one had the constellation that stops you from regaining mana automatically but gives you magic absorption instead. Was a self made mage class. Stopped playing with it because I had to do too much alchemy to be able to cast spells, and ingredients seemed to be hard to get in the required amount.

I have spent way more than an hour with forming his visage LOL. It was quite interesting.. much much fun! :D But I restarted past your current level and main story advance.. and I don't think I'll play that character, rather make another mage.

Level 7, can you zoom in with your bow yet? That's another thing want to check when I'm fed up with this guy I currently play with. If ever. I get more interesting monsters and fun quests now, so I'll probably keep him :)

Stealth.. lol. That's not made too well in this game <_< If you want, you can advance it without actually playing.. (like athletics I suppose) I went AFK for 15 minutes to boost my stealth with the 1st character :lol:

lol...afk. i was wondering about that. it works well for me though. when i go stealth, i do it up. i take off everything except the shield. literally. :lol: nothing but a loincloth. i figure, if i get caught, put it back on right away. no harm done. afterall, it pays to take off your boots, so why not go primal? :P

yeah, i can zoom in with my bow. it is semi-useful for the first shot, after that, not so much. but i got so used to using the bow without zooming, i almost feel like its not really necessary. i usually do check the corpses afterwards to see where my initial shot went, i'll have to take a screenshot of a good one next time. i've put an arrow through peoples' eye several times, from what i would guess is about 200 feet or so? not sure. of course i've also seen what i thought was a good shot, go through a wrist, or almost the end of a rat tail...so it goes both ways.

not to knock on the zoom though, it is nice...cause i have seen a slight difference between getting a stealth shot on someone in the face, vs in the leg or something. the biggest part is getting used to the gravity. not such an issue close up, but it can be from further away.

I've just been playing around with different vid drivers for about an hour, and went back to my originals...after overclocking my processor. waste of my playing time. :(

I used to take off armour with my 1st character.. I had a hotkey set to my breast piece, usually had it off and put it on just when getting into melee :) The guy runs much faster this way.

How to boost stealth while not playing, example:

- go into a room next to another one with people in it
- close door
- stand in corner
- go to stealth mode
- press Q to keep walking into the corner <_<
- go AFK
- come back to press OK 10 minutes later, having passed a proficiency treshold
- go AFK

So silly. Stopped at 50, felt bad about it :rolleyes: Should work with athletics too if you run I guess, I preferred playing though :) You don't need the levels after all. (Xept for some daedra quest which won't start until you are high level.)

Do you think it actually matters where you hit the opponents? Apart from that it seems to damages the piece of armour they wear there?

You shoot in 1st person view right? I only go 1p when I fight with allied characters.. too easy to hit them, then you have to bother with making them civil again, not to mention healing :rolleyes: Tried shooting in 3rd person? Every third or so fireball of mine is way off target :lol:

I'm almost always in 1st person, sometimes go to 3rd, but no, haven't really shot in 3rd yet. I'm not exactly sure if theres a difference in the amount of damage based on where the shot hit. Could mainly be the fact that I'm hitting an un-armoured part of the body when I shoot them in the head, so long as they're not wearing a helmet. I've often thought the same thing though, that it doesn't matter where they get hit.

My character is custom as well. Major skills that I remember are Marksman, speechcraft, alchemy, mercantile, strength, erm...speed i think? and luck. Thats all I remember. some may be useless, but i've got some minor skills trained past many major ones. like you said, leveling doesn't seem to matter. I actually think I read somewhere that each opponent goes up in skill as you do, so it doesn't really matter anyways.

How do you take screenshots btw?

And yeah, same for me...I haven't really used any exploits to level up at all. I prefer playing.

my brother is addicted to this game. he cannot stop playing it. :(

im afraid of it now. :D

Just persuade him to finish the main quest, that might make him stop.

So have they fixed any or most of the bugs yet? I might get this game. My brother was looking to for a new game and he mostly plays RPGs (FF, Kingdom Hearts, etc), I could probably get him to buy it :P.

He's not likely to find better RPGs out there ATM.. dunno about bugs, havn't played it for a while. If you get it for the PC, bugs won't be a big deal... As said, I played the German version (not all quests, most remarkably none linked to being a vampire), and the "bugs" I saw were mostly linked to the translation, I havn't met any bugs that are seriously affecting the gameplay. Except some fish bugs, which might affect a secondary quest.

last i checked, there was a beta patch which fixed some crash probs..

MMORPGs are my favorite this is an RPG though(according to sources).


My questoin: is there any kind of online feature?

it's definitely massive, but there is not a multiplayer feature. single player only although you barely notice it, or so im told.

I have no comparison, I only played RPGs so far. Opponents get stronger in Oblivion as you advance, and they are quite capable of killing you. (Especially if you play fair and on higher difficulty.)

Haha, my brother got the game and was getting killed by rats with the difficulty turned all the way up.

But his system is barely the minimum requirements and it's crashing a lot on him :(

The system info on his comp says 2001 Mhz processer (min is 2000), 512 ram (512 min), 128 vid card (he has the lowest one supported, GeForce 5200).

I should look online for any crash-preventing tips they might have... He did install the patch. Maybe windowed mode would help? Any ideas?

I think windowed mode would make it worse. Don't alt-tab either, that likes to crash on weak systems.

There are many tips out there for minimum systems, your bro really should look in TES4 forums.

They will certainly tell you to eliminate all unnecessary processes. Good idea for that is your virus protection software, you don't run online anyway, and e.g. Norton eats a lot of system resources.
Apparently, enabling triple buffering works well with some vid cards (increases load times but smooths gameplay). And I know there's a way to unload textures of the dungeons, which you can do whenever you leave them to get more vid mem for the actual scenery.
Disable music if it's jaggy, saves a few CPU clicks for the graphics.

Look especially for blue font sections in this thread:

http://www.elderscrolls.com/forums/index.p...howtopic=380042

They recommend this tweak guide too:
http://www.tweakguides.com/Oblivion_1.html

i just started playing this last week and decided i would look to see if this thread was here and it is. Anyway yeah i just read through this and great tips. Im playing a wood elf/thief he pretty much kicks ass untill anything gets close to you its really fun to stealth your way around and shoot things in the back of the head. im running it on medium it works fine xfire is a little crazy with it but i mean its a good time.

A bit late but.... :D


I got it a couple months ago, and when I got started on the Dark Brotherhood quest chain, I could NOT stop no matter what. Its even got a nice story to it, and sneaking around and knifing people was unforgettable.

I even got vampirism from the guy but then the game got a bit unexciting because I was all-powerful and I killed anything that moved in one hit....even the final bosses of the game I shanked them in one hit rofl :lol:

Allowing such EASY access to the difficulty of the game is a sin (I couldn't muster the self restraint to play the game on a tough difficulty instead of going around playing god :lol: ), you should choose right before you begin a game and then cant change it again to make things consistently so that everything turns out as the game meant it to be.

awesome game, in my limited experiences with RPG's I've never seen one thats actually funner to go around experimenting than it is to complete the main quest chain (which BTW was :yuk: )

Agreed, the main quest is not too good. There are now several expansions out, if you aren't tired of the game yet, but finishing "all" quests in vanilla would take a long time anyway. I think the adjustable difficulty is a good thing, you can set it higher if it's too easy. The fault is in you if you don't :P

I'll try it again on a tougher difficulty, I guess the first time playin it through I just wanted to get to the end and know the story for Dark Brohood, but I know the first time I die its back to the left for that meter! lol :P

You can download mods, like the OOO mod (Something Oblivion Overhaul). That seems to be the most popular mod and makes the game more difficult. It adds all kinds of boss enemies, makes wilderness animals more likely to appear in packs... It fixes how some characters will scale their levels depending on your level. For example, you won't be able to beat the arena quests early on. You need to get powerful first. It makes it so that the best equipment isn't just lying around. And it adjusts the equipment on some characters so that you can get good equipment by beating the tough enemies. It also puts some predetermined loot in some places instead of it being random loot as it would normally be. It does a lot more small adjustments to make things seem more logical, like changing the values of some items. For example, clothes are actually worth something.

Wow...that just addressed every problem I had in mind for the game lol, Im downloading it!

Thanks ;)

That shows you don't have the german version :D

I do. :yuk: :yuk: :yuk: :yuk: :yuk: :yuk: :yuk: :yuk:

It only works properly when you start a new game. So forget about using it with your current saved games.

They changed what the "signs" (like lover, steed, thief, warrior), will do, so that the choices are more balanced. I think they made fatigue much more important. Combat will tire you out much faster. 2 of the signs actually increase your fatigue regeneration.

Also, the potions no longer have an instant effect for giving you health, magic, fatigue. They work over time, so you'll need to use them earlier rather than at the last second. You might need some of anti-fatigue potions now too, with the fatigue being a problem.


One thing I don't really like about oblivion is that I'd like to play a little bit of everything, but I'd do best if I specialized. I really like using the bow, sneaking up on enemies and picking them off. But marksmanship is kinda underpowered compared to other forms of combat. And when they come charging at me, I want to switch to hand to hand weapons. And then I also like using some of the magic. Not really destruction magic, but the odd skills under illusion or alteration, or maybe conjuration. If I do all of that, I'll just be weak in everything. I'd do much better just as a pure powerful mage, or purely a warrior with super-strong attacks.

Also, when you specialize, you'll use the skill that use the same attributes, so you'll get a bigger bonus for those attributes when you level up.

I tried to start playing this again the other day but i now experience random crashes during the load screens. So i figured whatever i will reinstall... Unfortunatly it won't let me uninstall the game for some reason <_<

Wow...anyone tried the Thieves Guild for this? Id say its the BEST, with Dark Brohood trailing behind.

Is that led by palamedes' evil twin?

gah I finally started playing this stupid game and I can't stop.. :yuk:

Nice thing is that for once I can play a game with maxed gfx settings...