Title: Seduction Powers
N.I.B. - December 5, 2005 03:07 PM (GMT)
I’ve noticed that seduction powers has another weakness on top of not affecting ITP models and being very random against high Ld models – you have to target btb models before you attack. This often leads to you wasting Transfix/Beguile/Seduction/Domination on a model which you cut down a second later. Lousy synergism.
adsVampire - December 5, 2005 03:46 PM (GMT)
The mind-powers are good against multi-wound models and characters (assuming they are not ItP).
I wonder ... one vamp drops Ld by -1 will 2 drop it by -2? Do the rules say "affected once only" or is there an errata preventing this?
Rufus - December 5, 2005 05:19 PM (GMT)
I don't think their cumulative, not sure where i read it but i read it somewhere...
im depressed now im going to join the Strigoli - no wait, im not that depressed :P
N.I.B. - December 5, 2005 07:20 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (adsVampire @ Dec 5 2005, 03:46 PM) |
| I wonder ... one vamp drops Ld by -1 will 2 drop it by -2? Do the rules say "affected once only" or is there an errata preventing this? |
Not cumulative, VC army book page 52.
Preacher - December 5, 2005 09:22 PM (GMT)
The one place where I have found the Ld powers to be very useful is when facing large based ranked units, eg trolls or ogres. These generally have very poor leadership.
With your vampire on the cornor of your unit you normally get one enemy model which is only in btb with the vampire. A failed test and it looses all its attacks as it is not allowed to attack the vampire and nothing else is in btb.
N.I.B. - December 5, 2005 09:52 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Preacher @ Dec 5 2005, 09:22 PM) |
| With your vampire on the cornor of your unit you normally get one enemy model which is only in btb with the vampire. A failed test and it looses all its attacks as it is not allowed to attack the vampire and nothing else is in btb. |
Yep, but since most people take Innocent Lost, that model is dead anyway. A waste of seduction.
Preacher - December 6, 2005 01:45 AM (GMT)
You would be lucky to get two wounds with them in which case the model is still there. Skeletions rarely wound the bigger multi wound models. This works, but its not worth basing a strategy around. Which is why I tend to use beguile, for 10 points its worth the gamble.
N.I.B. - December 6, 2005 08:32 AM (GMT)
I agree that Beguile is a good choice, and it's sad that it's a good choice only because it's 10 points that don't hurt so much when wasted. The seductive powers deserves better.
Didn't realize that my quote was about multiwound models, however those Ogre sized fights are about 1% of my countess' fights. The rest of the fighting is against mansized models that are killed after being charmed, furthering the crappyness of the psychology powers.
Rufus - December 20, 2005 07:09 PM (GMT)
Instead of immune to psycology would it be fairer if the powers worked on all units except unbreakable ones - in the book immune to psycology refers to proud and brave troops whilst unbreakable refers to troops of extreme bravery - or not truely alive. so this suggests that the seduction powers could be made relevant to itp troops and still fit the fluff;- just a thought
