Legion Of Nagash, My concepts and ideas. c&c welcome.

[Crimson Prophet]

I've started this thread here because my theme is Nagashi oriented and seeing how the leader here is in fact a highly Nagash-oriented person, then I thought this was probably the best place to recieve inspiration.

I've taken to heart what MDMann suggested in regards to Mourkain, and my vision for a Nagashi influenced crusading undead army has undertaken several transformations.

Leading my legion of shambling crusaders is the Dark Lord Gaur, a mighty warrior and master of the legions of Nagashizzar. In addition, there is the Prophet Seck, one whom they whisper was tutoured by the Great Necromancer himself. Attending him is a cadre of loyal Necromancers that raise more of the dead into the ranks of this terrorfying army.

In the core of the army lies a horde of Mourkainite/Kadonite skeletal men at arms and tribesmen organized into cohorts under the leadership of Nagashi Necromancers and Priests (both the one and the same).

The Ghouls are from the decedant Kadonite priests of the Temple of Nagash, devolving into cannibals and revering the Great Dark in the Peak Crippled.

Zombies will be

As a mockery for the Templars of Morr, guardians of the dead, I will convert them into "pious" Templars of Nagash.

Grave Guard are a cohort of Nagashizzar "Guards" sent to protect the Prophet of Nagash.

I was thinking as my centerpiece, would be the Black Ark/Casket of Mourkain, a vessel of considerable power that was built by Kadon and his most trusted disciples (my own thought). If anything, that will be a diorama. If I can integrate it, it would probably replace the Black Coach with the Counts As rule.

Main Colour Theme: Red/Black and Purple - Red representing the Blood to be shed by the infidels who resist Nagash (includes Tomb Kings and Empire) - Black the awesome power of the Great Necromancer - and Purple is the sovereignty of Nagashizzar.

Rules wise, I think its going to have to be the Blood Dragons. However. If a Nagash list becomes validated, concocted, or fan-made: hold me back.

If you think this sounds like a Brentonnian influenced army, then you are correct.

I thank you for any criticism provided, provided that its helpful.

Cheers.

[Uberaris]

ah so I'm not the only one deciding to do a NAgash army rock on!

[Gorthuar]

We are many, my good Uberaris. Finally. I knew others would find the wisdom of the Lord Nagash one day.

Now, Crimson Prophet, please tell me great minds think alike. Please tell me you came up with legions, cohorts, the Nagashizzar Guards and all on your own. Without reading any of my stories or army lists.

Of course I'd be happy if some of my works inspired you, but I'd be happier to see that our interpretations, while so similar, are independant of each other. That would mean different people precieve the bits and pieces of Nagash lore in the same manner.

Of course my legion is more recent, so to say. All of my rank and file recruits are... fresh. More fresh then the dead of Mourkain, at least. But allowing the faithful to serve our Lord once more is only fair, and a splendid idea on your part.

The idea of subverting Morrite Knights is just sweet. I love the irony of it.

Wht about the Zombies? I think you missed a part of text there.

On to the Ark/Casket. I have a simple Casket of Souls for this purpose. With a Necromancer operating it, of course. I'm only using it when I field my part of the Cult of Nagash using the Tomb Kings rules (I've always seen the Nagashite army as a mixed one, so I see no reason not to use those few Kings who saw the Great Necromancer's wisdom). Never thought of using it as a Black Coach though. Of course if you plan to actually build yours, you'll be able to provide it with some mobility. Good luck!

Finally, your Bloodline of choice. I'm not exactly fond of Blood Dragons myself (I'm a magic-addict, so go figure), and many players would scoff at the idea of cooperating with the Lord Nagash. They seem to be forgetting Abhorash's oath, however. The one to be the enemy of Mankind for all eternity. Keep it in mind, and your Knights of the Blood Dragon will be well suited to follow His Lordships' guidience.

I thank you for your time.


Lord Gorthuar de Veris
Cult of Nagash

[Uberaris]

I always assumed that after they dropped him from the army book people would let him go... but he seemed awesome then, and seems awesome now... anywho... definatly like the list, defiantly has some nice kicks to it.

[Crimson Prophet]

Ubararis:
indeed

Gorthaur:
Finally? I have bidded my time for the past... two years, looking into Nagash and his teachings frequently while I delve into the mysteries of Games-Workshop.

I'd have to say that your works, Gorthaur, namely your story, and your descriptions of Nagashizzar really hooked me. I unfortuneately didnt come up with the Guards myself, but I kinda did believe Nagash had a great cohort of personal guards heavily augemented with magic to guard his persons at all times. So, in a way, we think alike.

I came up with legions and cohorts by reading the Tomb Kings army book and with a long understanding of military organization.

Thanks for the complement bout the Mourkainite cultists XD.

I cant take the idea of subverting the Morrite Knights as mine, but I cannot say that I stole it either. Using ideas from White Dwarf Articles isnt stealing is it? However, I would have come up with the idea had I looked through the Knightly Orders of the Empire.

Yeah, bout the Zombies, I was half asleep when I wrote this, and I was on the verge of falling into a mild coma . Suffice it to say, I want to make them recently deceased Nagashi cultists. NAGASH IS EVERYWHERE!

The Black Ark/Casket was sorta my idea, cause I figured that priests and necromancers would have had a central icon to their religion, such as Nagash's Black Tomb in the Black Pyramid. And seeing how Kadon idolized Nagash, I wouldn't say no to the idea that Kadon might have built a vessel of great necromantic power that could have perhaps been instrumental in a new Nagashi empire. Of course all that was destroyed when Ushoran usurped the necromancer-king's throne.

I'm still experimenting with the ideas, but a Mourkainite heavy "legion" with an elite cohort, i.e. Knights and Guards, from Nagazhizzar is currently my central idea.

So, with this army, I want it to be legal and themed.... well mostly themed.

I would thoroughly enjoy to discuss anything further.

Cheers

[MDMann]

It's a good theme and I'm glad I could help but I'll just point out that that colour scheme is the official one for Sylvania. Nagash looked like the Scary Clown and the original Zombie Dragon wqas the Flying Chicken, so perhaps yellow, red and green?

[Gorthuar]

My good MDMann, you can't expect a millennia old Cult to care for the official colours of some mortal nation that's barely 2500 years around. I mean: it's the Empire's official scheme, even from before the time of Vlad. There is no reason altogether for the Nagashites to have a different scheme then the County of Sylvania, because the two factions are wholly independant of each other.

I thank you for your time.


Lord Gorthuar de Veris
Cult of Nagash

[Crimson Prophet]

Well, I was inspired by the Sylvannian colour scheme, but I kinda thought that the red/black and purple scheme was Nagashi like.

I'm still working through it anyway.

Keep the comments coming plz.

This post has been edited by Crimson Prophet on Aug 7 2007, 02:09 AM

[Uberaris]

its kinda hard to find a colorscheme for him. is it more Slavanian, or more TK? But from what I've seen on Cool mini or not, his robes are almost always painted purple, and he always has gold trim...

[Crimson Prophet]

Indeed. I kinda thought purple, well, mainly because its normally associated with evil, and it would have looked good with red and black.

[Mortis]

Purple associated with evil?

Since when?

Purple is the colour of royalty, and, in Warhammer, of Amethyst - death - magic.

[Uberaris]

Regardless, purple fits a dark themed army well... I quite like how it looks on my Nagash model's robes.

[Crimson Prophet]

Well Mortis, in my mind, purple is a general association with bad guys, in Warhammer. Nothing esle counts for it doesnt exist. Real world? We live in Warhammer. Warhammer is eternal. As is Nagash. Eternal bliss of undeath.

[Mortis]

The only evil purple associations I can think of are Slaanesh and sylvania, but that's hardly going to get purple thought of as an evil colour. I have never heard any references to purple being related to evil.

[Crimson Prophet]

Well its my personal opinion, and preference, cause its not exactly a bright heroic colour is it?