fucking war

They pushed us to the limit and now they shall pay!

Does seem a little drastic to cause so much grief over one soldier...

Infact it's made it worse because even more soldiers are gone missing. I just pray Iran don't get involved because it means I'll be getting drafted to go over there... and I want to go to Afghanistan to crush Opium Uzbek


Israel should've called the SAS - they would of got that soldier back with ease

Kenty- don't diss our forces, for real, don't be Uzbeck.
They keep firing rockets at us and we didn't even retaliated. But now, when they kidnapped a soldier in Gaza and 2 more in the Lebanon border- they gonna pay for it.
Imagine what would YOU do if rockets fell in your town on a daily basis...

We'd send in the SAS

Easy to say... it's not that simple. Those Hizbollah bitches are experts in urban warfare- they hide behind civilians and then attack with their claws.
Anyway, let's cut the military discussions in Borat's holy board.

I'm with you all the way. Blow those terrorists to kingdom come and screw anyone who criticizes Israel for defending its own people.

I'm with you all the way. Blow those terrorists to kingdom come and screw anyone who criticizes Israel for defending its own people.

Hmmm... this is very well being, but by Christ I hope WWIII isn't created by this...

That's what Newt Gingrich says it's going to be. World War 3. Newt Gingrich is an idiot and a political opportunist. Worse than a Gypsy. He would not escape Borat. Borat would crush him. I doubt World War 3 would happen.

As for Hezbollah, nothing would make me more happy than to see them out of business.

One of the UN Security Council Resolutions (the one in which Syria was finally pressured to withdraw from Lebanon) had two other provisions in it.

1. To disarm Hezbollah
2. For the Lebanese Army to set up a 20 mi buffer zone between Israel and Hezbollah.

I think of everyone to blame, we here in the US should blame ourselves for not following up on these two provisions. We should have used our influence to make sure these two provisions were carried out. It may not have worked, but at least we should have tried. It created the conditions for the current crisis and put Israel in their current dilemma. Now they have no choice but to defend themselves.

I agree with Tony Blair that an international force should be sent in. However, I do not believe now is the time.

Not exactly an easy conflict by any means. Of course, we Americans have to deal with ol Kimmy and his temper tantrum with his Taepodongs. Ugh.

In my opinion, the Israeli's are doing the wrong thing by mass murdering innocent civilians. I realize that Hezbollah does the same thing (on a smaller scale), but Hezbollah is not a state, they are not an entity that can be expected to repect international law.

Futhermore, these acts of Israel will create more support for Hezbollah among Lebanese.

I find it unacceptable that a democratic country is allowed to kill innocent people. Same thing with the US.

QFT

My friend, if the Israelis would be "mass murdering innocent civilians" as you say, there would be hundreds of thousands dead, not hundreds.

None of us is in a position to judge Israel for its actions because none of us lives in a country surrounded by enemies who have repeatedly tried to destroy her and who is subject to rocket attacks on a daily basis.

I feel sorry for those Lebanese civilians, but the world's indignation should be directed at Syria and Iran for arming and supporting Hezbollah - the real culprits for the conflict - and not at Israel. (As I see it, Iran is behind all this in order to distort the attention - esp. last week during the G8 - of world powers from their nuclear programme).

My friend, if the Israelis would be "mass murdering innocent civilians" as you say, there would be hundreds of thousands dead, not hundreds.

None of us is in a position to judge Israel for its actions because none of us lives in a country surrounded by enemies who have repeatedly tried to destroy her and who is subject to rocket attacks on a daily basis.

I feel sorry for those Lebanese civilians, but the world's indignation should be directed at Syria and Iran for arming and supporting Hezbollah - the real culprits for the conflict - and not at Israel. (As I see it, Iran is behind all this in order to distort the attention - esp. last week during the G8 - of world powers from their nuclear programme).

My friend Jazmatazz Bagatov,

Mass murder it is. Numbers do not matter, since this is a matter of definition. The Israeli's know they will kill innocent civilians and still perform their actions. This is done by a state that is a member of the UN and is not sanctioned for any of its inhuman acts (towards the Palestinians and now the Lebanse) due to the US.

The UN is dead. The right of the strongest applies.

I'm really busy these days so I have time only for a brief comment:

Wickid-
Israel NEVER performs mass murder. It's bullshit. If we would do that- they would all been dead by now.
There's no other state in the world (not even US and UK) that takes such drastic measures to reduce the ammount of civilians injured.
No other state warns the population 48 hours before attacking- so that innocents can flee, even in the cost of warning the terrorits that we are coming.
No other state sends commando units to capture 1 terrorists in a house- rather than destroying it.

according to what you say, all democrat states perfoem mass murder.
I'd like to know where are you from exactly, and what's your way to deal with terror.

It's easy for you to blame us.
Ofcourse innocents are getting killed- that the awaful cost of war.
But you can't fight any other way against terrorists wich hide among children and women.

We, as a state, can't allow those terrorists shoot rockets at us.
Imagine, just for a second, that your block was attacked by missles and rockets! Wouldn't you seek to defend yourself?! Can you even imagine that UK or US are shot at by missles by terrorists?!

Ofcourse you can't.
Beacuse you don't know the feeling.
For you it's all just one fucking middle-east bullcrap.

As soon as you people get the idea that we are just like you, and we're eating this shit just for living here- you'll talk differently.

Remember that- Israel is the only democratic state in this region.
Blaming and critisizing should be pointed elsewhere.
We need your support.
This war we're fighting- is your war. It's the war of the free fucking world against Islamic fanatics.

Have a nice week, IDF calls me.
Danius.

My friend, if the Israelis would be "mass murdering innocent civilians" as you say, there would be hundreds of thousands dead, not hundreds.

None of us is in a position to judge Israel for its actions because none of us lives in a country surrounded by enemies who have repeatedly tried to destroy her and who is subject to rocket attacks on a daily basis.

I feel sorry for those Lebanese civilians, but the world's indignation should be directed at Syria and Iran for arming and supporting Hezbollah - the real culprits for the conflict - and not at Israel. (As I see it, Iran is behind all this in order to distort the attention - esp. last week during the G8 - of world powers from their nuclear programme).

My friend Jazmatazz Bagatov,

Mass murder it is. Numbers do not matter, since this is a matter of definition. The Israeli's know they will kill innocent civilians and still perform their actions. This is done by a state that is a member of the UN and is not sanctioned for any of its inhuman acts (towards the Palestinians and now the Lebanse) due to the US.

The UN is dead. The right of the strongest applies.

I think that you have a distorted concept of war and mass murder. If Israel wanted to commit mass murder they would not bother warning civilians to evacuate. Actually, all they would need to do is to carpet bomb the whole of Lebanon. The victims then would be thousands of times more and you would have some semblance of an argument.

Hezbollah have never stopped firing rockets into urban areas of Israel, notwithstanding the fact that Israel have pulled out unilateraly of Southern Lebanon since 6 years ago. The Lebanese government (which, incidentally, has 2 ministers from Hezbollah) has never had the power nor the will to stop them. Syria and Iran, the real powers behind Hezbollah, certainly had no interests in stopping them.
Because the Lebanese government was powerless to stop them, Israel has to do its dirty work instead. I hope you can appreciate that Israel cannot be in a constant situation of low-level border war with its urban areas constantly being shelled.

As for murdering innocent people, more arabs have been killed by other arabs in the region than Israel ever has ("Black September", Sabra and Chatila, etc.). As a matter of fact, Israel always does its utmost to minimize the number of civilian casualties. On the other hand, Hamas and Hezbollah have always tried to maximise the number of innocent casualties. However, because of the biased reporting in the media, Israel is always vilified and portrayed as the bad guy.

Anyway, I ask you, how do you think Israel should react? Should they try to negotiate with these people, notwithstanding the fact that the explicit aim of Hezbollah is the "eradication of the state of Israel"?

I fully back Israel in it's struggle agaisnt the terrorist scum, but killing 80 civilians in a single airstrike has to be questioned.

If Israel wants to get Hezbollah, then they're going to have to realise that airstrikes aren't going to do it.

I know Israel has an SF unit (can't remember the name - really bugging me. Think it begins with M...) and they need to do more ground work. Urban tactics must be met with urban tactics...

Personally, I don't think Israel will be able to do it by themselves. This isn't just Hezbollah they are fighting, it's Iran, Syria and Al-Qaeda too...