Commend The Cat-Tribe

I'm FOR, obviously.

For, naturally.

Also for, of course.

Against. Dreadful stuff. What's with all this low quality shit getting to vote, lately?

FOR. Although it isn't one of your best, Uni. C'mon, you're breaking the boundaries in terms of SC resolutions, do it in style...

FOR. TCT is the shit.

FOR.

VERY FOR! TCT is one of my favorite people to watch on the forum!

Against.

I've great time for TCT and we get on well, but sometimes his conduct can be extremely unbecoming. He's prone to losing his top and more than once I've had to TG asking him to cool down, and to look back over what he said. Most of the time, he retrospectively agreed he was out of order.

I don't think he deserves the Commendation until he can act more civil on the forums. There are idiots out there, but he has to understand that. Not everyone is as smart as him.

I've heard the same thing about you, Sanctaria. I think this a feud between two self-proclaimed debate team masters. *shrugs* I find TCT to be very civil considering the circumstances, he often is head first in a debate with those most stubborn people.

Weird. I don't think I've ever been uncivil in a debate. Ever. Or accused of such.

Never proclaimed I was a debate team master either.

Facts, Uni, facts.

"Secondly, I'm pretty sure how good I am at debating - judging the World Universities Debating Championships would back me up there. Dismissing arguments because of their source is perfectly legitmate; would you believe a report from the Zimbabwean Ministry of Finance if they said they were in the clear, or would you believe an IMF report suggesting otherwise. "

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.ph...789587#p4671749

I've actually gotten severally telegrams from people affirming that what you were saying was rude, when you probably perceived it as constructive debate, no doubt. Take it as a lesson that people are sensitive, and sometimes one person's "debate carried too far" is another man's "healthy debate". Generally speaking, people on the winning side of a debate are terrible judges of what was fair debating, and people on the losing side of a debate are terrible judges of what was unfair debating. So we're all pretty terrible at judging fairness because we're all players in one big debate, and sometimes we just get carried away in hot debates, it happens.

Again, I never claimed I was a Debate Master, merely that I was able to debate to a good standard. The two are not synonymous. But I'll accept that I could have caused confusion. Why you think I'm voting against out of jealousy though, is confusing.

I would beg the question as to why they'd TG you if they have a problem with me rather than TG myself. That really doesn't make sense. Personally, and I'm sure others'd back me up if I asked them, that wasn't being rude at all. If they don't have a tough skin, well, that's not my fault.

Frankly, I find the whole claim to be irrelevant. If I was rude, ok. If I was uncivil, ok. I'm sorry. But I'm not being commended here, so my behaviour is irrelevant.

I'm going to take a leaf out of TCT's book here and ask for a reference to back up your assertion that TCT has been rude/uncivil.

Since I'm not trying to convince anyone, why do I have to?

I figured that I was allowed to have personal reasons to vote yea or nay on an issue in this region. I'm not the Delegate, I don't have to explain my vote if I don't wish to.

In fact, I wasn't obliged to give a reason for my voting against, yet I did so out of courtesy.

Basically, I don't feel the guy deserves a commendation. That's my vote. I don't have to justify that if I don't wish to, and frankly Belshaft, I'm pretty insulted that you're asking me to.