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Sintas	Posted: Feb 20 2011, 01:21 AM
God of Wisdom Group: Citizens Posts: 88 Member No.: 92 Joined: 9-January 11	Members of the Security Counsil, HEARAS The Quote of The Day has not contributed any aid, or service to one's nation, HEARAS The Quote of The Day has not done any recognizable actions, ALSO hearas the factrecognizing others shall not be an act for recognizment themselves, PROPOSING that The Quote of Day's proposal to be revoked, Hearby proposes repealment of Commend The Quote of The Day So, opinions?

Belschaft

Posted: Feb 20 2011, 01:43 AM

God

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Well, I was opposed to it in the first place so if you clean up the language a bit then I'm FOR. I'd been considering trying this myself, and was gonna post something sooner or later; this is what I've got so far.

QUOTE

RECOGNIZING that good wishes and friendliness are perfectly nice things;

BELIEVING that more than this is required for commendations, and that they should only be awarded when there is evidence of an extraordinary contribution to the world community;

NOTING that SC#45 contains no reference to any particular acts of note or exceptional contributions to this community;

NOTING that the activities that SC#45 commends Quote of the Day for are conducted by dozens of other nations, non of which have received commendation for them, and that picking out one such nation seemingly at random for praise is disingenuous;

BELIEVING that being committed is not enough for a commendation;

REPEALS SC#45

It's a better way of wording it methinks.

sedge

Posted: Feb 20 2011, 04:04 AM

The Rulesmeister

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QUOTE (Sintas @ Feb 20 2011, 01:21 AM)

Hearby proposes repealment of Commend The Quote of The Day

With operative clauses (the ones that actually do something), you actually do that action, not just propose it. Something like this would be better:

QUOTE

Hereby Repeals SC#45, Commend Quote of the Day.

Between the two of you, I think you can get a pretty good repeal worked out.

Sintas

Posted: Feb 21 2011, 01:03 AM

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QUOTE (sedge @ Feb 20 2011, 04:04 AM)

With operative clauses (the ones that actually do something), you actually do that action, not just propose it. Something like this would be better:

Between the two of you, I think you can get a pretty good repeal worked out.

Thanks, what else do I need? I want to make it a better case, but I am stumped. I need more reasons.

sedge	Posted: Feb 21 2011, 04:09 AM
The Rulesmeister Group: Honorary Members Posts: 23 Member No.: 53 Joined: 22-July 10	Well for a start, I think you should talk to Belschaft about combining your proposals. Once you've decided if you're going to do that, I'll come up with some suggestions.

Sintas

Posted: Feb 21 2011, 09:39 PM

God of Wisdom

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QUOTE (sedge @ Feb 21 2011, 04:09 AM)

Well for a start, I think you should talk to Belschaft about combining your proposals. Once you've decided if you're going to do that, I'll come up with some suggestions.

Y'Know, I am gonna just put it in the SC now. Thanks for the help!

sedge	Posted: Feb 22 2011, 12:49 AM
The Rulesmeister Group: Honorary Members Posts: 23 Member No.: 53 Joined: 22-July 10	It's ok, I guess, but it would've been better to spend longer on the drafting. You should be more patient

Belschaft	Posted: Feb 22 2011, 12:55 AM
God Group: Minister of Foreign Affairs Posts: 385 Member No.: 87 Joined: 18-December 10	Y'know, you probably should have put up a drafting thread on the WA forums first. You also should have refereed to what he was actually commended for, which you haven't. I don't remember any references to providing aid or services to other nations in the commendation. Do you not get WA procedure still, despite people here explaining it to you what, literally a dozen times?

Belschaft

Posted: Feb 22 2011, 03:32 AM

God

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Ok, as I don't expect Sintas bill to pass I'm gonna keep working on my version.

QUOTE

NOTING that a Commendation is defined as 'A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region';

BELIEVING that as such they should only be awarded when a clear evidence of an outstanding contribution to this community is presented;

AWARE that visiting every featured region is an activity carried out by numerous nations and regions, such as The Featured Region Followers, a region founded upon this specific principle that has been doing so since June 2007;

CONCIOUS that none of these nations or regions have received a commendation for their activities;

BELIEVING that as such to choose one nation which does so seemingly at random to receive this honour is disingenuous;

RECOGNIZING that references are made to both spreading 'good wishes and friendliness' and 'being one of the most committed nations in the world'

CONCEDING that these are both perfectly nice things and that the world would be a better place if more people actively aped such activity;

CONCERNED that these are however excessively vague and in no way match the requirement of an outstanding contribution;

NOTING that as such SC#45 contains no reference to any outstanding contributions to this community and as such there is no legitimate grounds for commendation within SC#45;

Hereby Repeals SC#45, Commend Quote of the Day.

Thoughts?

Quelesh	Posted: Feb 22 2011, 02:13 PM
God Group: WA Delegate Posts: 350 Member No.: 37 Joined: 20-June 10	So much for combining them. Patience is a virtue. Nonetheless, I've gone ahead and approved both versions. -------------------- Liberty and justice for all.

Belschaft	Posted: Feb 22 2011, 02:32 PM
God Group: Minister of Foreign Affairs Posts: 385 Member No.: 87 Joined: 18-December 10	Yes, it is rather. Sadly my hand was somewhat forced.

Darenjo	Posted: Feb 22 2011, 05:17 PM
God Group: WA Authors Posts: 151 Member No.: 88 Joined: 4-January 11	I prefer Bel's version. But I'm a bit apathetic to the whole issue. I voted FOR the original commendation, and would probably just sit out on a repeal. -------------------- Vice-Delegate of Eastern Islands of Dharma Associate Justice for the Dharman Supreme Court Member of the [rainbow]IntFed World Takeover Operation[/rainbow] - "Sovereignty is so U.N."

Sintas	Posted: Feb 22 2011, 05:57 PM
God of Wisdom Group: Citizens Posts: 88 Member No.: 92 Joined: 9-January 11	I take pride in my work! This is an insult!

sedge	Posted: Feb 23 2011, 02:38 AM
The Rulesmeister Group: Honorary Members Posts: 23 Member No.: 53 Joined: 22-July 10	If neither of them attain quorum, how about you work together then?

Sintas	Posted: Feb 23 2011, 11:36 PM
God of Wisdom Group: Citizens Posts: 88 Member No.: 92 Joined: 9-January 11	I''ll try. I don't think either will, so I'll give it a go. Hope Bel's up for it as wellgrumble

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