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Fair Tax Act Of 2007– Hr 25/ S 102 - Not So Fast, Is this to conform to the WTO? Or legit?| jofortruth |
Posted: Jun 13 2007, 11:18 AM
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(Also, repealing the 16 Amendment requires a Constitutional amendment, and that requires it being sent to the states for approval by 3/4ths of them. Are we to believe they would do this AFTER passing this Fair Tax?) |
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Posted: Jun 13 2007, 11:34 AM
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Authors of the book talking about the FAIR TAX. (Note that FOX and HANNITY support this).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=di2em2S25qM Neal Boortz on his Radio Show: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyZSdkAmzh0 AND THIS GUY IS ONE OF THE PEOPLE PROMOTING THE FAIR TAX, ????  |
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Posted: Jun 13 2007, 11:42 AM
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Another Example of BOORTZ. (His own assistant said he is a 16 yr old in a 62 year old body)
(Sorry but I would prefer a REASONABLE ADULT making changes to my TAX SYSTEM, MY FUTURE). Is he only involved in this because he has a radio show that can be used to promote the fair tax? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGFVCgI15_Y (DO YOU QUESTION WHY SOMEONE LIKE THIS IS INVOLVED WITH CHANGING SOMETHING IN AMERICA THAT IS AS HUGE AS OUR TAX STRUCTURE?) |
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 Posted: Dec 1 2007, 12:11 PM
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QUESTION: Does this mean that the Internal Revenue Code will remain in existence even after repealing the Income Tax and changing to a Fair tax? I think this is a recipe for trouble. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Main Website: http://www.fairtax.org/site/PageServer The Founders of Americans for Fair Taxation AFT): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americans_For_Fair_Taxation http://www.fairtax.org/site/PageServer?pagename=about_us "AFFT was founded in 1994 by three Houston businessmen: Jack Trotter, Bob McNair, and Leo Linbeck ..." Note: This is the same year that NAFTA passed. Is there a connection? Fair Tax Proposal to Presidents Advisory Panel: (April 2005) http://www.fairtaxanswers.org/linbeck.pdf News on the Fair Tax: http://www.fairtax.org/site/PageServer?pagename=news_current |
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Posted: Dec 1 2007, 01:09 PM
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Who is Leo Linbeck, and what are his Credentials for steerheading the Fair Tax? (He's one of 3 Founders of AFT) http://www.linbeck.com/home.html http://www.tpj.org/docs/2001/11/reports/tlr/page3.html (Appears to me this man is a rich activist. He also wants Tort reform. He is a former Director for the Federal Reserve (The Fed that should be abolished). So, IMO he is one of the ELITE who are participating with the changes in America. This is one reason to give this group more scrutiny. Where does he get his authority from to orchestrate a major change to our tax system? If it's the ELITE, then THIS IS NOT WHAT WE WANT. THEY'VE HAD THEIR HANDS IN TOO MUCH ALREADY!) Linbeck Construction a Member of the AGC: (Construction Association) http://www.analytical-consulting.com/participants.html#AGC Linbeck Construction Built this Huge Cathedral: http://www.diogh.org/cocathedral/index.htm http://www.diogh.org/cocathedral/cathedral-history.htm Texans for Tort Reform: http://www.tortreform.com/leo-linbeck http://www.tortreform.com/about Houston Construction Exec to Lead Bonfire Panel Inquiry: http://lmtonline.com/news/archive/1127/pagea7.pdf Linbeck Construction Company was a Case Study for OBM (Organizational Behavior Mgmt Network) This may just be OSHA requirements, but it could be more. http://www.obmnetwork.com/resources/articl...tthews_Linbeck/ http://www.qualitysafetyedge.com/articles/whatIsVBSP.cfm http://www.qualitysafetyedge.com/clients/c...-using-VBSP.cfm His Letter to the Committee: http://www.fairtax.org/site/News2?id=8621&...age=NewsArticle His Testimony Before the Ways and Means Committee: http://www.fairtax.org/PDF/LinbeckWays&MeansTestimony.pdf http://waysandmeans.house.gov/hearings.asp...de=view&id=5196 His Donations to Congressmen: (This should tell you something) http://www.newsmeat.com/fec/bystate_detail...NBECK&first=LEO Article: FairTax: Better for America? by Linbeck: http://www.txfb.org/texasAgriculture/2004/...0204fairtax.htm -------------------------------- AFFT (Americans for Fair Taxation) designed the Fair Tax, and their Chairman, Leo Linbeck a Houston businessman, said the following: http://www.geocities.com/cmcofer/leo.html
http://www.fairtax.org/PDF/InternationalCo...Agriculture.pdf (So, we are now being told what to do by the WTO? Who is running this country?) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ron Paul on the WTO: http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul250.html WTO Demands Change in US Tax Laws? http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/tst2002/tst012102.htm Does the WTO Serve Our Interests? http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/tst2005/tst051605.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leo Linbeck III: (His son I assume. He is Catholic, so can assume family is also.) https://gsbapps.stanford.edu/facultybios/bi...asp?id=04180303 http://www.jonesgsm.rice.edu/Faculty/Leo_L...6;SL:SnID$ http://alliance.rice.edu/Images/alliance/P...s%20release.pdf Leo Linbeck, III is President and CEO of Aquinas Corporation, the parent company of Linbeck Group, LP and several other operating businesses. Linbeck is one of the 100 largest commercial construction firms in the US. Linbeck employs over 250 professionals and is currently managing the planning and construction of over $500 million of projects nationwide. Linbeck has offices in Houston and Fort Worth, Texas, New Haven, Connecticut and Lexington, Massachusetts. Leo was a founder of the Collaborative Process Institute and the Lean Construction Institute, national initiatives focused on process improvement in construction. He is an adjunct professor at the Jones Graduate School of Management and guest lecturer at Stanford and MIT. |
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Posted: Dec 1 2007, 01:09 PM
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Who are the Other Two Founders of AFFT?
http://www.fairtax.org/site/PageServer?pagename=about_us 1) Jack T. Trotter Self Employed/Private Investments "Founder, Director - I first became interested in eliminating burdensome tax laws when I was practicing as a CPA and attorney. Too many business decisions are made solely based on tax criteria rather than what’s best for the business. Businesses have to make decisions to mitigate the tax impact of their transactions, because if they don’t the amount of tax could exceed the amount of cash in the transaction. This is bad for the business and at the same time undercuts the revenue-raising potential of the tax system because when one part of the tax base doesn’t pay, others have to make up the difference. I knew we could find a better way to raise revenues for the government." Pan American Cultural Exchange Donor: http://members.aol.com/pacefund/ Donor to Houston Hope & AmeriCorps VISTA Programs http://www.houstonhope.org/staff.html http://www.houstonhope.org/donors_sponsors.html Campaign Contributions to Congressmen: http://www.newsmeat.com/fec/bystate_detail...tter&first=jack 2) Robert (Bob) C. McNair "Founder, Finance Chairman - As a young man starting out in business with no capital, I learned firsthand how difficult it is to earn enough money to properly capitalize a business. I also learned that being undercapitalized was a competitive disadvantage in the business world. I would love to help make capital accumulation easier for young entrepreneurs. The enactment of the FairTax would accomplish that goal. The cost of capital will be reduced under the FairTax and young people, by choice, may reduce their consumption and have more after-tax dollars to invest in their businesses. The FairTax gives people without capital a fair chance to accumulate capital and be competitive in the business world." |
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Posted: Dec 1 2007, 01:57 PM
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TWO MAIN PAID PROMOTERS OF THE FAIR TAX:
Radio Host in Atlanta, Neal Boortz, & Rep. John Linder Connection: (Note: Leo and his group are paying Linder to go all over the country promoting The Fair Tax.) Neal Boortz Clears Up Some Confusion: http://boortz.com/nuze/200509/09152005.html Boortz’s Answer to Bartlett’s Attack on The FairTax http://huckabee.wordpress.com/the-fair-tax...on-the-fairtax/ Fair Tax Debate - Neal Boortz and Michael Graetz PART 1 of 2 Add to My Profile | More Videos The Fair Tax Book: Saying Goodbye to the Income Tax and the IRS - Co-Authors Linder and Boortz http://www.amazon.com/Fair-Tax-Book-Saying...e/dp/0060875496 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rep. John Linder (R-GA) Primary Sponsor of the Fair Tax: http://linder.house.gov/index.cfm?FuseActi...51-5996F29A075B Linder - Fair Tax News and Articles: http://linder.house.gov/index.cfm?fuseacti...df-3a31b4102960 Georgia Republican John Linder first introduced the FairTax bill (H.R.2525) in July 1999 to the 106th United States Congress. He has reintroduced substantially the same bill in each subsequent session of Congress. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FairTax (This shows the idea has been around for a while, even before the fallout of our economy, the Housing Bust, and fall of the dollar. Therefore, IMO, this shows there's some premeditation to the Fair Tax. It would be nice if they would tell us the REAL MOTIVES, but I won't hold my breathe to get TRUTH. The Elite seem to not be able to be HONEST about anything.) |
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Posted: Dec 1 2007, 03:14 PM
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(If the INCOME TAX is illegal, which some say it is and it's being challenged in court, then why not REPEAL IT TOTALLY?) The Fair Tax Fraud: http://www.mises.org/story/1814 The Consumption Tax: A Critique - By Murray N. Rothbard http://www.mises.org/story/1768 Fact Check - Unspinning the Fair Tax: http://www.factcheck.org/taxes/unspinning_the_fairtax.html http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Fairtaxrebuttal1.doc Ron Paul Introduced Legislation to Repeal the 16th Amendment: http://www.ronpaullibrary.org/document.php?id=658 ------------------------------------------------------ NOTE: There are some who say that the 16th Amendment was never ratified properly in the first place. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1494729/posts http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/printer-...RTICLE_ID=17398 IRS Commissioner Evades The Question ------------------------------------------------------- Greenspan: Consumption Tax Could Help Economy (2005): http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,149298,00.html HUM! Fed Reserve guy is promoting a Consumption Tax? What's in it for the Fed? While they're at it, why don't they include a clause in the Fair Tax to ABOLISH THE FEDERAL RESERVE? I bet Greenspan wouldn't support that move. Duncan Hunter and Mike Huckabee on the Fair Tax: Prebate Program - 1st of every month every citizen would get a check in the amount of the consumption sales tax rate up to the point of poverty for each member of the household. It would untax completely the poor and elderly. You must register Annually to get this prebate! |
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Posted: Dec 1 2007, 03:19 PM
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Scientology's Fair Tax Plot - The New Republic: Plan Backed By Fred Thompson, Other Candidates, Has Roots With L. Ron Hubbard
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/09/07/...Opinion_3241621 Fair Tax - Flawed Tax: (Is this Spin?) http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110010523 (Note: This needs more investigation. Some question Bruce Bartlett's integrity on the issue. He's with the New Republic, which is a group/publication full of NEOCONS like Michael Ledeen, Kagan, etc. NEOCONS LOVE FEARMONGERING. THEY USE IT TO MOVE THEIR AGENDAS, JUST LIKE INTO IRAQ!) |
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Posted: Dec 1 2007, 04:01 PM
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A Comparison of the FairTax, the Income Tax, and the Flat Tax
http://www.pafairtax.org/resrcs/FlatTaxFairTaxComparison.pdf |
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Posted: Dec 1 2007, 04:32 PM
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Where the Presidential Candidates Stand on the Fair Tax:
http://www.fairtax.org/site/PageServer?pag...s_presScorecard These Individuals say "YES": Huckabee Tancredo Paul (He says he would support it, but thinks they should deal with Spending.) Hunter Gravel ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ron Paul said ""A pure consumption tax like the Fair Tax would be better than the current system only if we truly did away with the income tax by repealing the 16th Amendment." http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul347.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Individuals say "NO": Giuliani Romney McCain (now says he would sign it if it came across his desk) Obama Clinton This Individual is Noncommittal: Thompson AN IDEA AS RADICAL AS THIS NEEDS SOME REAL SCRUTINY. I DON'T THINK THE FAIR TAX IS IN ITS FINAL FORM, SO IT'S HARD TO MAKE A THOROUGH JUDGMENT. HOWEVER, AT THIS POINT I'M SEEING SOME RED FLAGS WHICH I POST LATER. Where the Congress Stands: House: http://www.fairtax.org/PDF/HouseScorecard.pdf Senate: http://www.fairtax.org/PDF/SenateScorecard.pdf |
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Posted: Dec 2 2007, 11:50 AM
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PROBLEMS I HAVE WITH THIS: (to note a few only) 1) They also said "The Patriot Act" was going to be a good thing. It isn't! IMO the American people must be very cautious about this, namely because of all of the other lies we've been told. Due diligence is necessary because this is a VERY RADICAL CHANGE. IF IT'S NOT DONE RIGHT, WE COULD BE IN AN EVEN BIGGER MESS. (Is the Fair Tax more Hegelian Dialectic? Making it sound good by its name, when really it isn't.) 2) John Linder (R-GA) is the AFFT spokesman. They have paid for him to go all over the USA talking about The Fair Tax. (I would like to know why he, and his friend Neal Boortz, a radio host in Atlanta, wrote the book together on the fair tax, and what their credentials are to be involved in this. Linder is a former dentist turned politician.) http://boortz.com/nuze/200510/10132005.html 3) They speak of no Direct Tax, but what about Indirect taxes that can't be seen by the people as easily. Example: The HHS has responsibility for adjusting the poverty level annually. A manipulation in this number will adjust the taxes we pay. (The point - I'm more concerned about the things WE CAN'T SEE IN THIS, and who benefits and who doesn't. Since a BUSINESSMAN is the Chairman of this group and he's from Houston, Texas, that's enough for me to be concerned. Most of the time BUSINESS is involved, they do things to benefit themselves.) 4) Why are we being dictated to by the WTO? Did you catch Linbeck's statement above?
--------------------------------------------------------------------- More questions I have: 1) Since it's a Sales Tax, does this mean anyone living Outside of the USA will no longer pay taxes to the USA? Currently if you're an American citizen living in another country, you have to file 2 tax returns. 2) Since Greenspan likes the idea of a consumption tax, how will the Fair Tax affect the Federal Reserve? Would they put a clause in the Fair Tax to also abolish the Federal Reserve? 3) If the Income Tax is so unfair, why hasn't anything been done before now? All this talk about a fair tax NOW just seems to coincidental to the NWO shananigans. Even LEO (AFT) said that the Fair Tax would conform to what the WTO wants. Could it be anymore clear that they're tied into one another? 4) There have been many court cases regarding the ILLEGAL INCOME TAX, and the individuals have been winning their cases because the courts can't prove that the INCOME TAX is MANDATORY. What does the Administration say about this? If we've been unfairly and illegally taxed for 30 or more years, what reciprocity is forthcoming? 5) Why doesn't the FAIR TAX address the FOUNDATIONS and NON PROFITS that are set up to help the ELITE/RICH? Many of these people don't pay a cent of tax because they use loopholes through Foundations, Shell Companies, Holding Companies and the like. WILL THIS BE STOPPED ALSO? 6) Does the Fair Tax talk about the effect of INDIRECT TAXES on the consumer? They mention DIRECT TAXES. However, both (even though one is unseen) can have major affects on the people. 7) What about the loss of Jobs (IRS workers, Tax Preparers, etc)? 8) Explain how the Fair Tax will be incorporated into the current State Taxes, Municipal taxes, etc. 9) How will the Fair Tax affect WAGES? (One article above already says that for this to work your Gross wages would come down to your NET amount, thus in actuality reducing your wages.) 10) Why isn't anything in this legislation to deal with the major problem of SPENDING? Fixing the tax code MUST INCLUDE THIS ISSUE. 11) What about the "underground economy"? Won't this increase greatly? 12) So won't this make it MUCH easier for the government to raise taxes just by increasing the rate 1%? Will there be any controls to deal with this? |
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Posted: Dec 2 2007, 04:42 PM
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TWO OPINIONS YOU SHOULD READ:
Just How Fair is the Fair Tax? http://money.cnn.com/2005/09/06/pf/taxes/c...mptiontax_0510/ http://www.taxreductioninstitute.com/ubb/F...TML/000009.html Harvard Economist, Dale Jorgenson states the following: 1) What the Fair Tax fails to mention is that prices can only fall this sharply if companies cut wages. Example: Say your salary is $100,000, and your net pay after taxes is $80,000. Your company is still paying the $20,000. In the Fair Tax world, it will save that money, and be able to lower its prices accordingly, only if it can reduce your salary to $80,000. In other words, your take-home pay is the same as before. Sure, you'd get to keep 100% of your paycheck, but Boortz and Linder leave out that it would be a smaller paycheck. That's a big thing to leave out. (Referring to the Boortz Linder book) Note: Boortz Linder promise to FIX THIS OVERSIGHT when their book is reprinted. Make sure they do, if they haven't already. Anyone who bought the first book would have been confused by this MAJOR OVERSIGHT. What's Wrong with the Fair Tax: http://www.thelandofthefree.net/conservati...on/fairtax.html Two Flaws this Writer Sees: 1) Still a group of Americans that do not pay any tax. 2) When it gets implemented, and works, Congress is going to get a lot more money to SPEND on more bloated government. He goes on to say: 1) The Prebate means those under poverty level pay no Net Tax. Wealthy will have the burden of funding government. (I can hardly feel sorry for them since most now don't pay any tax due to their Foundations, Exemptions and Tax Deduction Loopholes. Maybe it's their turn for a change?) 2) By changing the "poverty level", elected officials can increase that voting base. (You see, these are the UNSPOKEN things they don't tell you.) 3) The problem with the Fair Tax is the potential for an upward spiral of government revenues. 4)There is the risk of making Federal bureaucracies so flush with new money, and unless PROPER CONTROLS ARE PUT IN PLACE, AND THE PEOPLE ARE VIGILANT TO FORCE THEIR ELECTED OFFICIALS TO LOWER THE OVERALL SALES TAX AS REVENUES INCREASE, SOCIALISM WILL BECOME RAMPANT. |
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Posted: Dec 2 2007, 04:50 PM
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Ron Paul on the IRS & Taxes:
http://www.ronpaullibrary.org/topic.php?id=0 Taxes, Spending and Debt are the Real Issues: http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul347.html The Case Against the Income Tax: http://www.ronpaul2008.com/articles/107/th...the-income-tax/ Cough Up: http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul316.html Ron Paul on CNBC 2004 - UnConstitutional Income Tax What Does the Constitution Say about Taxes? http://www.constitutionparty.com/party_platform.php -------------------------------------------------------------- More Wisdom from Ron Paul: (You should bookmark this site. Updated Reg) http://www.house.gov/paul/legis.shtml |
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Posted: Dec 2 2007, 06:16 PM
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Joel Slemrod, University of Michigan Office of Tax Policy Research: http://webuser.bus.umich.edu/departments/b...lemrod/bio.html http://www.bus.umich.edu/FacultyBios/CV/jslemrod.pdf Before the House Ways and Means Committee at the June 8, 2005, Hearing on Tax Reform http://www.irstaxattorney.com/tax-reform-l...el_Slemrod.html My Beautiful Tax Reform by Slemrod: http://www.bus.umich.edu/OTPR/WP2005-12.pdf Just How Fair is the Fair Tax? http://money.cnn.com/2005/09/06/pf/taxes/c...mptiontax_0510/
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Posted: Dec 3 2007, 08:05 PM
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http://www.fairtax.org/PDF/PlainEnglishSum...rTaxAct2007.pdf INTERNET PURCHASES WILL BE TAXED UNDER THE FAIR TAX:
NON PROFITS WILL RECEIVE FAVORABLE TREATMENT:
(IMO some Non Profits have abused their status, and yet again they will get FAVORABLE TAX TREATMENT?) |
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Posted: Apr 19 2008, 01:39 PM
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ARGUMENTS AGAINST THE FAIR TAX: Fair Tax, Flawed Tax http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110010523
Fair tax promoters planting false hope http://newsok.com/article/3205270/1203197189 Fair Tax & Flawed Logic: http://www.stan-geiger.com/item/211/
IMO, you can add to his comment and say it is for the NWO Elite because if you look around the globe other countries are talking about a flat tax also. It's just more harmonization, so that the United Nations can take over one day. This is the direction the ELITE are taking us. QUESTION: If there was such a need for this, why don't they do it in good times, rather than in the middle of a crisis? ANSWER: Because it's easier to get things passed in Congress when there's a crisis. Do you remember what happened immediately after 911 in the form of legislation being passed without even being read? Opportunistic, You bet! The following article shows that this tax idea is global. So, IMO, this is being promoted by the NWO ELITE. You decide! http://www.bbj.hu/news/news_34480.html http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/Pag...orce_login=true |
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Posted: Apr 19 2008, 04:19 PM
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http://economics.about.com/od/lettersonthe...nst_fairtax.htm
I beg to differ with his statement that this is the only man against the Fair Tax! Have you studied the FAIR TAX proposal? Have you asked Linder and Boortz, or their promoters hard questions about this tax? Have you performed your DUE DILIGENCE on the issue? If not, then you shouldn't be blindly supporting it just because on the surface "it sounds good." Many made the same "feel good" decision when they voted for Bush/Cheney. You know what the results of that decision were now. THE POINT: GET INFORMED, AND QUIT SUPPORTING IDEAS UNTIL YOU HAVE DONE YOUR OWN DUE DILIGENCE ON THE SUBJECT. ALSO STOP VOTING PEOPLE INTO OFFICE YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT. THE QUICK PASSAGE OF THE PATRIOT ACT, AND THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION SHOULD HAVE TAUGHT YOU THAT! BOTH WERE DECEPTIVE! |
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Posted: Apr 23 2008, 07:28 AM
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Trying to make sense of the Numbers: What Boortz Says: http://huckabee.wordpress.com/the-fair-tax...-on-the-fairtax
So then explain how this "embedded tax" works today? Your explanation isn't complete until you do this to help us understand. What Others Say: http://www.channelingreality.com/News/fair...he_fair_tax.htm
What Bruce Bartlett Says In WSJ article: http://www.opinionjournal.com/forms/printT...ml?id=110010523 Rebuttal of FairTax.org: http://www.fairtax.org/PDF/080204-TuerckRe...lOfBartlett.pdf
What FactCheck.org says: http://www.factcheck.org/taxes/print_unspi...he_fairtax.html Rebuttal from FairTax.org: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22FairTax+...ex=&startPage=1
It is the parenthetical that is important, for it hides the real truth of the tax rate.
THE PROBLEM IS: Boortz and Linder weren't very clear in their book as to how this is calculated. To make matters worse, they use jargon like "inclusive" and "exclusive". Why don't they just make it a flat amount and be clear? Get rid of the "inclusive" "exclusive", or explain how this would play out say if 1) the retailer increases his prices, or 2) if the fair tax is increased. Give us all of the possible scenarios in an example! IMO, if they are claiming this is "simple", then they need to give us more information and make it "simple". Something still appears to be hidden. The word "hidden" doesn't mean "transparency". Go back to the drawing board! |
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Posted: Apr 23 2008, 07:46 AM
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Some Federal Taxes will still be around which we will have to pay in addition to the "fair tax": (See Problem #14) http://www.mises.org/story/1975 1) Excise Tax on Gasoline 2) Taxes on Airline Tickets Boortz Says there are no exclusions or exemptions, yet there are exceptions: 1) Internet access services 2) Tuition In the 1st Fair Tax book it says this about the Internet:
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Posted: Apr 23 2008, 08:17 AM
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Posted: Apr 23 2008, 08:36 AM
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Rebate - How it will Work:
http://www.fairtax.org/PDF/PlainEnglishSum...rTaxAct2007.pdf (See Pg 13 - Chapter 3) * Families who choose to receive the rebate MUST REGISTER ANNUALLY with the State. If you don't register, there is no rebate. * The registration form requires the following: 1) name of each family member who shares the residence, 2) Social Security number of each family member, 3) family member to whom the rebate should be paid, 4) A sworn statement that all listed family members are lawful residents, that all family members sharing the common residence are listed, and that no family members are incarcerated; and 5) The address of the shared residence. * "Qualified Family" - one or more family members sharing the common residence. Incarcerated individuals are not eligible. * In order for a person to be counted as a member of the family for purposes of determining the size of the "qualified family", a person must have a valid Social Security Number and be a lawful resident of the United States. * After the initial registration, any qualified family that fails to renew its registration each year, within 30 days of the family determination date, will cease receiving the rebate 90 days following the failure to register. However, the family can file to get up to six months of missed rebates later. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Poverty Level Spending and Annual Adjustment: * The rebate is paid on poverty level spending. * Department of Health and Human Services calculates this amount annually, and is based on necessities. * The monthly sales tax rebate is equal to the FairTax rate (23 percent) times the monthly poverty level. |
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Posted: Apr 23 2008, 08:43 AM
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Posted: Apr 23 2008, 08:50 AM
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More Proof that the WTO is Involved in this: (So where do they get their authority? From the UN? What does this tell you?) http://www.hktdc.com/alert/cba-e0006.htm Countries are Jumping Through Hoops to Comply with WTO Requirements: http://vietnamnews.vnanet.vn/2004-04/15/Stories/15.htm New WTO Decision on US Tax Law Could Kill the Golden Goose http://www.americaneconomicalert.org/view_art.asp?Prod_ID=44
The Flawed WTO Tax Decision http://www.freedomandprosperity.org/Articles/mitchell3.pdf -------------------------------------------------------------------- Boortz and Linder need to put this in their book, and tell the American people that this is ALL ABOUT THE NEW WORLD ORDER, AND THE FINANCIAL RESTRUCTURING OF THE ENTIRE WORLD. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Do you remember what Linbeck said, earlier in this thread?
THIS IS A STEPPING STONE TO THE ELITE NEW WORLD ORDER, FOLKS! I URGE CAUTION BEFORE YOU JUMP ON THIS BAND WAGON! |
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