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Bio:
http://www.nndb.com/people/571/000031478/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Frum http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1155 http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=David_Frum http://www.nationalreview.com/masthead/masthead-frum.asp http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsourc.../DavidFrum.html AEI Articles by Frum: http://www.aei.org/search/home_result.asp His Book: "The Right Man" http://www.aei.org/books/bookID.301,filter...book_detail.asp This book is enough to not agree with Frum. How could anyone in their right mind say that Bush was in ANY WAY SUCCESSFUL????? Therefore, this man's credibility is highly questionable. That is unless you're a ZIONIST, NEOCON, OR PART OF THE ELITE MACHINE destroying this nation. IS THAT IT, MR. FRUM?????? |
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Posted: Nov 20 2007, 09:37 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Frum
"On October 11, 2007, Frum announced on his blog that he was joining Rudolph Giuliani's presidential campaign as a senior foreign policy adviser." ANOTHER REASON I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING RUDY GIULIANI, BESIDES THE FACT THAT IMO RUDY ISN'T HONEST, AND IS ANOTHER WARMONGER THAT FAVORS ISRAEL. |
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Posted: Nov 20 2007, 09:43 PM
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Islamo-Fascism Had Its Moment
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/24/weekinre...F/Frum,%20David Quote: "SHORTLY after terrorists attacked the United States on Sept. 11, 2001, President Bush’s speechwriters began grappling with a linguistic puzzle: What to call the enemy? In the five years since, Mr. Bush has road-tested an array of terms: evildoers, jihadists, Islamic extremists, even “Al Qaeda suiciders. But no phrase has crashed and burned as fast as the president’s most recent entry into the foreign policy lexicon: Islamic fascists, or, Islamo-fascism. ” "David Frum, a former speechwriter for Mr. Bush, said the president turned to “evildoers” right after Sept. 11, 2001." ------------------------------------------------------------------ Unpatriotic Conservatives: A war against America - By David Frum http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m128..._98954244/print DAVID FRUM CALLS ANYONE WHO DOESN'T AGREE WITH THE WAR - UNPATRIOTIC. (NOW YOU TELL ME WHO THE EVIL ONE IS??????) |
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Posted: Nov 20 2007, 09:49 PM
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He Likes to play the "Anti-Semitic" Card it seems:
http://www.newscloud.com/read/74145 The current denouncement of the Jewish people would diminish, if there weren't the ZIONISTS among you causing the problems. It's NOT THE JEWS WHO ARE THE REAL ISSUE, IT'S THE ZIONISTS AMONG YOU. If you want, what you call "Anti-Semitic" behavior to go away, then you need to get the ZIONISTS under control. THEIR STRANGLEHOLD ON THE US GOVERNMENT, THROUGH AIPAC IS WRONG. THIS IS THE PROBLEM. SO, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?????? |
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Posted: Nov 20 2007, 09:51 PM
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What's the Answer, David?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mltjk2WsjZE Intro to Video: On Real Time last night, Atlanta Mayor Shirley Franklin asked prominent neoconservative David Frum a straightforward question that he had a hard time answering coherently: "What is the answer in Iraq?" |
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Posted: Nov 20 2007, 10:11 PM
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He admits responsibility for the fiasco in Iraq. He was part of the NEOCON group who got us in Iraq. NEOCON LIST - FRUM IS ON: http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title...servatives/list |
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Posted: Nov 20 2007, 10:20 PM
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David Frum published a denouncement of paleoconservatives in 2003, saying:
"War is a great clarifier. It forces people to take sides. The paleoconservatives have chosen — and the rest of us must choose too. In a time of danger, they have turned their backs on their country. Now we turn our backs on them." THIS STATEMENT IS A BIG FAT LIE, DAVID! It's you and your NEOCON friends who need to change your RADICAL ANTI-AMERICAN FOREIGN POLICY. IT'S YOU AND YOUR FRIENDS WHO TOOK US INTO A WAR IN IRAQ THAT IS ILLEGAL, ILL-ADVISED, AND PURE INSANITY. IT'S THE NEOCONS WHO HAVE TURNED THEIR BACKS ON AMERICA BY DOING THIS, AND THE REST OF US ARE FED UP WITH YOUR INSANE IDEAS AND IDEOLOGY. |
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Posted: Nov 20 2007, 10:41 PM
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Neocons Turn on Bush for Incompetence Over Iraq War:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,,329618754-122525,00.html Julian Borger in Washington Saturday November 4, 2006 Guardian Several prominent neoconservatives have turned on George Bush days before critical midterm elections, lambasting his administration for incompetence in the handling of the Iraq war and questioning the wisdom of the 2003 invasion they were instrumental in promoting. Richard Perle and Kenneth Adelman, who were both Pentagon advisers before the war, Michael Rubin, a former senior official in the Pentagon's Office of Special Plans, and David Frum, a former Bush speechwriter, were among the neoconservatives who recanted to Vanity Fair magazine in an article that could influence Tuesday's battle for the control of Congress. The Iraq war has been the dominant issue in the election. "I think the influence will be on morale [among Republicans]," said Steven Clemons, the head of the American Strategy Programme at the New America Foundation. "I think they are confusing the right. What this is yielding is ambivalence, and people will stay at home." Mr Perle, a member of the influential Defence Policy Board that advised the defence secretary, Donald Rumsfeld, in the run-up to the war, is as outspoken in denouncing the conduct of the war as he was once bullish on the invasion. He blamed "dysfunction" in the Bush administration for the present quagmire. "The decisions did not get made that should have been. They didn't get made in a timely fashion, and the differences were argued out endlessly," Mr Perle told Vanity Fair, according to early excerpts of the article. "At the end of the day, you have to hold the president responsible." Asked if he would still have pushed for war knowing what he knows now, Mr Perle, a leading hawk in the Reagan administration, said: "I think if I had been delphic, and had seen where we are today, and people had said, 'Should we go into Iraq?', I think now I probably would have said, 'No, let's consider other strategies for dealing with the thing that concerns us most, which is Saddam supplying weapons of mass destruction to terrorists'." The Bush administration admits it was mistaken in believing that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, but the president and other top officials maintain that Iraq is better off as a result of his removal. An overwhelming majority of Americans, however, now believe the war was not worth the cost in blood and resources. The public rethink by top neocons comes at a time of rising violence, with the US death toll climbing steadily towards 3,000 and the United Nations estimating that many Iraqis may be being killed by the conflict each month. Kenneth Adelman, another Reagan era hawk who sat on the Defence Policy Board until last year, drew attention with a 2002 commentary in the Washington Post predicting that liberating Iraq would be a "cakewalk". He now says he hugely overestimated the abilities of the Bush team. "I just presumed that what I considered to be the most competent national security team since Truman was indeed going to be competent," Mr Adelman said. "They turned out to be among the most incompetent teams in the postwar era. Not only did each of them, individually, have enormous flaws, but together they were deadly, dysfunctional." He too takes back his public urging for military action, in light of the administration's performance. "I guess that's what I would have said: that Bush's arguments are absolutely right, but you know what, you just have to put them in the drawer marked 'can't do'. And that's very different from 'let's go'." Mr Adelman, a senior Reagan adviser at cold war summits with Mikhail Gorbachev, expressed particular disappointment in Mr Rumsfeld, who he described as a particular friend. "I'm crushed by his performance," he said. "Did he change, or were we wrong in the past? Or is it that he was never really challenged before? I don't know. He certainly fooled me." Mr Adelman said the guiding principle behind neoconservatism, "the idea of using our power for moral good in the world", had been killed off for a generation at least. After Iraq, he told Vanity Fair, "it's not going to sell". Michael Rubin, who worked on the staff of the Pentagon's office of special plans and the coalition provisional authority in Baghdad, accused Mr Bush of betraying Iraqi reformers. The president's actions, Mr Rubin said, had been "not much different from what his father did on February 15 1991, when he called the Iraqi people to rise up and then had second thoughts and didn't do anything once they did". Mr Frum, who as a White House speechwriter helped coin the phrase "axis of evil" in 2002, said failure in Iraq might be inescapable, because "the insurgency has proven it can kill anyone who cooperates, and the United States and its friends have failed to prove that it can protect them". The blame, Mr Frum said, lies with "failure at the centre", beginning with the president. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- THIS IS SUCH A JOKE! HAD IT TURNED OUT THE OPPOSITE, THESE SAME GUYS WOULD HAVE TAKEN ALL THE CREDIT. TYPICAL OF LOSERS TO DO AN ABOUT FACE WHEN THEIR PLANS DON'T WORK OUT. |
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Posted: Nov 20 2007, 11:05 PM
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http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/20/us/polit...F/Frum,%20David
Quote: "Mr. Frum argued that the problem with the Iraq war was in its execution, not in the idea behind it." WRONG AGAIN, DAVID! THIS ALL BEGAN WITH THE IDEAS OF THE NEOCONS. SO YOU AND YOUR BUDDIES NEED TO TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE DEATHS OF EVERY IRAQI AND OUR US SOLDIERS. THE WAR IN IRAQ STARTED WITH THE NEOCON IDEOLOGY. IMO THE NEOCON IDEOLOGY IS A FIASCO, AND IT NEEDS TO BE BURIED FOREVER. YOU GUYS HAVE DONE ENOUGH DAMAGE TO THE USA. |
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Posted: Nov 20 2007, 11:18 PM
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David Frum's Guide to Mythology (Part I):
http://www.antiwar.com/montgomery/?articleid=785 Part II: http://www.antiwar.com/montgomery/?articleid=784 |
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Posted: Nov 21 2007, 10:58 AM
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THIS SHOWS THE ARROGANT AND MISGUIDED CHARACTER AND BELIEFS OF DAVID FRUM & HIS SIDEKICK RICHARD PERLE
BOOKS OF THE TIMES; A Confident Prescription For Foiling the Terrorists By MICHIKO KAKUTANI Published: January 13, 2004 AN END TO EVIL How to Win the War on Terror By David Frum and Richard Perle http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html...F/Frum,%20David ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The title of this new book by David Frum and Richard Perle, ''An End to Evil: How to Win the War on Terror,'' says it all. It captures the authors' absolutist, Manichaean language and worldview; their cocky know-it-all tone; their swaggering insinuation that they know ''how to win the war on terror'' and that readers, the Bush administration and the rest of the world had better listen to them. The book takes the instructive, prescriptive stance assumed by many conservative theorists in recent books, but it turns out to be less a reasoned effort to convince the unconvinced than a furious manifesto aimed at true believers. It is a screed that expends as much energy denouncing the State Department, Europe, the C.I.A., the F.B.I., Democrats, the foreign-policy establishment and even former President George H. W. Bush (the authors accuse him of trying ''to prevent the Soviet Union from disintegrating''), as it does on denouncing terrorists and terror-minded states. Making its points with all the subtlety of a pit bull on steroids, ''An End to Evil'' is smug, shrill and deliberately provocative. Which might not be so surprising given the authors' track records. Mr. Frum, a former White House speechwriter who helped coin the ''axis of evil'' phrase that President George W. Bush used in his 2002 State of the Union address, adopted a similarly bellicose manner in his 2003 book ''The Right Man: The Surprise Presidency of George W. Bush.'' Mr. Perle, a hawkish member of the Defense Policy Board and an assistant secretary of defense during the Reagan administration, acquired the Washington nicknames Prince of Darkness and Darth Vader in the 1980's for his combative, take-no-prisoners pronouncements. The authors make some persuasive points about the disturbing role the Saudis have played in fomenting radical Islamist doctrine, the persecution of women in some Muslim countries and the intelligence failures leading up to 9/11. But these points tend to be drowned out by their triumphalist boasts (''the United States has become the greatest of all great powers in world history''), their macho posturing and their willful, flame-throwing language. ''There is no middle way for Americans,'' they write in the opening chapter. ''It is victory or holocaust. This book is a manual for victory.'' Discussing rulers like Fidel Castro and Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, they declare that ''when it is in our power and our interest, we should toss dictators aside with no more compunction than a police sharpshooter feels when he downs a hostage-taker.'' Of the United Nations, another one of their nemeses, they write, ''The U.N. regularly broadcasts a spectacle as dishonest and morally deadening as a Stalinist show trial, a televised ritual of condemnation that inflames hatreds and sustains quarrels that might otherwise fade away.'' Mr. Perle and Mr. Frum argue that America ''should force European governments to choose between Paris and Washington,'' and they assert that Iran is ''the world's least trustworthy regime,'' ominously adding, ''The regime must go.'' Throughout ''An End to Evil'' they purvey a worldview of us-versus-them, all-or-nothing, either-or, and this outlook results in a refusal to countenance the possibility that people who do not share the authors' views about the war in Iraq or their faith in a pre-emptive, unilateralist foreign policy might have legitimate reasons for doing so. Instead, Mr. Frum and Mr. Perle accuse those who differ with their foreign-policy beliefs of failing to support the war against terrorism: of being cowardly, delusional or defeatist. They write, ''The determination of the State Department to reconcile the irreconcilable, to negotiate the unnegotiable, and to appease the unappeasable is an obstacle to victory.'' They argue that the C.I.A. is ''an agency with very strong, mostly liberal policy views,'' and that those views have ''again and again distorted its analysis and presentation of its own information.'' Of critics of the Patriot Act, they warn, ''We may be so eager to protect the right to dissent that we lose sight of the difference between dissent and subversion; so determined to defend the right of privacy that we refuse to acknowledge even the most blatant warnings of danger.'' In some cases the authors serve up questionable assertions with little or no effort to back them up. They write, for instance, that ''a visitor who walked through Baghdad in June would scarcely know that the city had been bombed in March.'' Neither the failure to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq that might have posed an imminent threat to America, nor the failure to establish a connection between Saddam Hussein and 9/11 seems to have given the authors pause. They argue that ''even in the absence of stockpiles of weapons Saddam was known to have created, the threat from his programs was undeniable.'' And they claim that ''Saddam expected to share'' in Osama bin Laden's success in hitting the World Trade Center. In other cases the authors use selective anecdotes or redacted illustrations to try to make their points. The myriad problems America continues to face in Iraq -- as well as a mounting death toll -- are conveniently skirted, as are the continuing difficulties in Afghanistan. The authors' canned summary of recent Middle East history barely mentions the Israeli-Palestinian situation, and later in the book they cavalierly dismiss suggestions that the creation of a Palestinian state might help calm passions in the Muslim world and strengthen friendly Arab governments. ''This thinking is not completely wrong,'' they sarcastically comment. ''If the United States were to denounce Israel as an illegal occupier of Muslim land, attack it, deport the Jewish population, and turn over the Temple Mount to the Palestinians, we might well enjoy some of the benefits listed above.'' The Palestinian state envisioned by President Bush, they suggest, would be undermined by extremists, who ''will denounce the ministate as a betrayal of the Palestinian cause'' or ''find some other pretext for refusing ever to make peace with Israel.'' But while Mr. Perle and Mr. Frum are unrelentingly pessimistic about a prospective Palestinian state, they are downright Pollyanna-ish about the prospects for a democratic Iraq: ''We liberated an entire nation, opening the way to a humane, decent civil society in Iraq -- and to reform of the ideological and moral climate of the whole Middle East.'' Such contradictions, combined with the volume's bullying tone and often specious reasoning, make for a strident, sophistical book, one unlikely to persuade anyone who doesn't already share the authors' super-hawkish views and self-righteous braggadocio. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- THE NEOCON, STRAUSSIAN IDEOLOGY IS SO CONTRADICTORY AND SCREWED UP. THESE PEOPLE THINK THEY CAN RID THE WORLD OF EVIL, WHEN REALLY THEY'RE EVIL THEMSELVES. IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO GET RID OF EVIL IN THE WORLD (ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY THEMSELVES ARE EVIL IN TRYING TO DO THIS) BECAUSE WHEN YOU MURDER INNOCENT PEOPLE, YOU CREATE MANY MORE TERRORISTS WHO ARE JUST TRYING TO DEFEND THEMSELVES FROM YOUR EVIL. YOUR IDEOLOGY IS SO SCREWED UP, AND YOUR ARROGANCE IS UNREAL! THIS ARTICLE SHOWS THIS. YOUR OWN BOOK REVEALS YOUR TOTALLY MISGUIDED THINKING. SADLY, THIS IDEOLOGY WAS USED TO GO INTO IRAQ AND MURDER THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE (INCLUDING OUR OWN SOLDIERS WHICH I'm SURE YOUR FAMILY WASN'T AMONG). THIS WAR IS PARTLY YOUR RESPONSIBILITY, AND EVEN THOUGH YOU SHOULD BE HAVING A HARD TIME SLEEPING, YOU PROBABLY DON'T BECAUSE EVIL HASN'T A CONSCIENCE! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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Posted: May 5 2012, 01:58 PM
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David Frum is a weasel and a shill! Here's a recent article in a Canadian magazine:
http://www2.macleans.ca/2012/04/27/david-f...vism-in-crisis/ He recently moderated a 911 debate involving Webster Tarpley: http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=231773.0 |
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