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 Libya - Air Strikes 3-19-11 Gaddafi Gold Dinar, Stopped; NATO & Al Qaeda join forces
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Posted: Mar 20 2011, 01:06 PM


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U.S. Government Backs Libyan Al-Qaeda While Hyping Terror Attacks Inside U.S.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/u-s-government...inside-u-s.html
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?to...seen#msg1218640

U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-mnZr7UKq4



I DON'T CARE IF IT WAS A UN COALITION. THE US PRESIDENT MUST GO TO CONGRESS TO DECLARE WAR ON A COUNTRY. OBAMA DID NOT DO THAT! THE UN HAS NO AUTHORITY OVER OUR US CONSTITUTION, AND THIS PRESIDENT SHOULD KNOW THAT! OBAMA, YOU ARE ONCE AGAIN SHAMEFULLY WRONG, AND YOU HAVE COMMITTED AN IMPEACHABLE ACT!

Obama: U.S Ready to Enforce Sanctions in Libya
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxMgo28VJaU



President Obama's Statement on Libya
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geqTT14AXwE




Interesting to note that this strike began 8 years to the day that Bush went into Iraq - March 19, 2003! What is it about March 19th?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_19

UN Security Council (The gods and the real power in the UN. Run by the Imperialists with a few others to make them look friendly)
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http://www.un.org/Docs/sc/

UN Security Council Resolution #1973:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nati...Resolution_1973

NOTE: Tarpley, on his show March 19, 2011, said that this UN Resolution decision is ILLEGAL and even violates their own charter - UN Charter Chapter 7.

The Charter says in Chapter 7 that "the only reason you can engage in an attack on another member state is for the restoration of International peace and security". Libya and events there at no time represented a threat to International peace or security. It was not a threat to others near its borders, and definitely not a threat to the USA.

The rebels that the GLOBALISTS sent in to destabilize Libya are the aggressors, and Kadafi was fighting them to stop them. These goons work for the globalists as destabilizers of countries, so then the globalists can go in and do their dirty work.

It's the same old story, new day! THE GLOBALISTS AND THEIR MINIONS ARE THE PROBLEM AND THEY'VE BEEN PULLING THESE TRICKS FOR DECADES, IF NOT LONGER!

THE IMPERIALIST GLOBALISTS USE INSTITUTIONS TO DO WHAT THEY DO, AND CONTINUALLY VIOLATE ALL RULES. THEY THINK THE RULES APPLY TO EVERYONE ELSE, AND NEVER TO THEM! THEY ARE THE ULTIMATE HYPOCRITE!
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Posted: Mar 20 2011, 01:27 PM


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Hillary Clinton Reiterates, Obama Does Not Need Congress For Libya War Actions (THIS IS A FLAGRANT LIE, AND THEY HAVE PULLED THIS STUNT WAY TOO MANY TIMES!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SjmBzoTS_Y






SHE LIED! THEY ARE ALL LYING, AND THEY KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT. WHY?

BECAUSE THERE ARE STILL STUNNED AMERICANS WHO ARE CLUELESS AND NEVER LOOK INTO WHAT IS GOING ON. WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM, THESE AHOLES ARE RUINING YOUR FUTURE, AND YOU REALLY DON'T CARE ABOUT THAT?

THESE SELF-RIGHTEOUS, ARROGANT, SICK SO CALLED LEADERS HAVE JUST INVADED ANOTHER COUNTRY (AS DIRECTED BY THE NEOCONS AT THE AMERICAN ENTERPRISE INSTITUTE AND THEIR AFFILIATES) THAT WAS NO THREAT TO THE USA, AND THEY PLAN TO INVADE SEVERAL MORE UNTIL THEY GET WHAT THEY WANT.

WHAT IS IT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND ABOUT THIS?


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Posted: Mar 20 2011, 01:43 PM


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The Neocon warmongers & their pals are behind this, and they have many more countries on their list (Hear them in their own arrogant words):
http://z4.invisionfree.com/The_Great_Decep...wtopic=9073&hl=
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"Who the Hell do you Think You Are?" Farrakhan Blasts Obama on Libya Bombing:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/who-the-hell-d...-step-down.html


Wonder why the Globalists don't invade other countries with dictators? Why is it they are always countries with oil or some resource they want? This is so obvious and in your face that these invasions have nothing to do with humanitarian reasons. It's about globalist control over resources (protecting their oil interests there) and people, and dividing up the world in their NWO image!

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I dont care for Farrakhan, but he is right on the hypocrisy issue!

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Posted: Mar 22 2011, 05:38 PM


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QUOTE
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March 22, 2011

Congressman Ron Paul made a sweep of television appearances yesterday to voice his strong opposition to the attack on Libya, and making it clear that the president is subverting US national sovereignty by bypassing Congress to engage in illegal acts of aggression.

Appearing on Freedom Watch with Judge Andrew Napolitano, the Congressman pulled no punches when explaining why he believes Obama went to the UN for authority to drop bombs on Libya, rather than congress.

“I think he philosophically believes in one world government,” Paul stated.
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Putin likens U.N. Libya resolution to crusade calls
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/putin-likens-u-n-...052402-752.html


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VOTKINSK, Russia (Reuters) - Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin Monday likened the U.N. Security Council resolution supporting military action in Libya to medieval calls for crusades.

... "The resolution is defective and flawed."

Putin said that interference in other countries' internal affairs has become a trend in U.S. foreign policy.

Russia, a veto-wielding permanent Security Council member, abstained from the vote Thursday in which the council authorized a no-fly zone over Libya and "all necessary measures" to protect civilians against Gaddafi's forces.


Interesting to note that Russia abstained from the vote in the UN Security Council. If they objected to it, why didn't they veto it or vote NO?


SO, THEY PASSED A RESOLUTION "TO PROTECT CIVILIANS" AND THEN BOMB THEM AND SHOOT MISSILES THAT KILL CIVILIANS? DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO YOU?

Also, on a separate note, former Congressman Rick Santorum recently said "the Crusades get a bad rap." Now isn't that an interesting statement. Seems like several are mentioning the Crusades in all of this war and invasion insanity!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPqR2_oh-Dc


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Posted: Mar 23 2011, 01:54 PM


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Hypocrite Biden Threatened Bush Impeachment Over Unconstitutional War
http://www.infowars.com/hypocrite-biden-th...titutional-war/

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Sen. Joe Biden threatens to initiate impeachment if President Bush acts militarily against Iran without congressional authorization. Speech at the Scott County Democratic Party banquet, Davenport, Iowa on December 14, 2007.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dRFJ6CF2Mw...player_embedded




SEE HOW EASILY OUR SO CALLED LEADERS CHANGE THEIR TUNE? JOE IS A JOKE! JUST ANOTHER LYING POLITICIAN BOUGHT LONG AGO BY THE GLOBALISTS! THESE PEOPLE ARE AN EMBARASSMENT TO OUR COUNTRY!

I WONDER IF JOE HAS SHOWN THIS DOCUMENT TO HIS PRESIDENT, OBAMA, AND TOLD HIM HE IS VIOLATING THE CONSTITUTION BY GOING INTO LIBYA, A SOVEREIGN NATION, WITHOUT PERMISSION FROM THE US CONGRESS?

AH, JOE, LOST YOUR VOICE? THOUGHT SO!
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Obama, Clinton, and Biden Agree: War on Libya Is Unconstitutional
http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/us...nconstitutional
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Libya's Qaddafi taps 'fossil water' to irrigate desert farms
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Africa/2010...te-desert-farms
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?to...0919#msg1220919


So now the globalists want to destroy this 26 year project that is just finishing?

DON'T TELL ME YOU ARE THERE TO "PROTECT CITIZENS". WHAT A BUNCH OF BS! IT'S ABOUT OIL, STOPPING SELF-SUFFICIENCY, AND MURDERING MORE USELESS EATERS WHO TAKE UP WHAT YOU THINK IS YOUR WORLD SPACE!


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They named the LIBYAN invasion "Odyssey Dawn" - So what does that mean in Globalist speak (You know they have their own language to keep the "little people" from figuring out their plans for all humanity)? rolleyes.gif
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?to...seen#msg1220920
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US NATO Commander Admits Al-Qaeda Linked To Libyan Rebels
http://www.infowars.com:80/us-nato-command...-libyan-rebels/
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/29/...E72S43P20110329

Well isn't that interesting. Now I guess they will call these the GOOD AL QAEDA?

Folks, Al Qaeda is a CIA Pentagon creation, and they are used to destabilize nations, just like what is happening to Libya, Egypt, etc on and on. It's the same old story, new country.

AL QAEDA WAS CREATED TO HELP WITH THE NWO ELITE AGENDA THAT HAS BEEN PLAYING OUT SINCE AT LEAST THE INVASION OF IRAQ!

PENTAGON - IF THERE ARE ANY REAL MEN LEFT THERE, YOU NEED TO START TELLING THE TRUTH, AND STOP THESE INSANE LIES AND WARS BASED ON LIES! YOU GUYS CALL YOURSELVES PROFESSIONAL? THEN IT'S TIME TO START ACTING THAT WAY! WEARING A UNIFORM DOESN'T MAKE YOU PROFESSIONAL, BUT TELLING THE TRUTH AND SHOWING REAL LEADERSHIP WOULD! rolleyes.gif

CONGRESS - IF THERE ARE ANY REAL MEN LEFT THERE, IT IS YOUR DUTY TO TELL THE TRUTH, AND TO WORK FOR THE PEOPLE OF THIS NATION. YOU DON'T WORK FOR US WHEN YOU SUCCUMB TO THE LIES OF THE ELITE AND DO THEIR BIDDING. WE DEMAND YOU CHANGE YOUR LOYALTY, OR GET OUT OF WASHINGTON!

ALLOWING THESE WARS TO CONTINUE, WITH NO REAL JUSTIFICATION, IS OUTRAGEOUS. IT IS AN ABUSE OF THE PRESIDENT'S POWER, AND YET WE HEAR BARELY A WIMPER FROM ANY OF YOU ABOUT HOW THEY ARE ILLEGAL, INSANE AND CONTRIVED. AND YOU GUYS CALL YOURSELVES LEADERS? JUST AMAZING!

IF OUR CONGRESS HAS BEEN RELEGATED TO AN IMPOTENT, PAPER PUSHING, ARGUMENTATIVE BODY OF CHILDREN WHO WORK ONLY FOR THE GLOBALISTS, THEN YOU SHOULD ALL BE FIRED FOR NOT BEING LOYAL TO THIS NATION, AND YOUR JOBS RETURNED TO THE PEOPLE AND THE STATES. YOU ARE NO LONGER EFFECTIVE, THUS YOU ARE FAILURES!


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Sen. Paul: Obama Does Not Understand “Constitutional Checks And Balances”
http://www.infowars.com/sen-paul-obama-doe...s-and-balances/
http://realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/03...d_balances.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrrV_Txg47Q...player_embedded




WHERE ARE THE CALLS FOR IMPEACHMENT FROM THE SENATE? DO YOU EVEN CARE ANYMORE? OR ARE YOUR FINANCIAL FUTURES JUST TAKEN CARE OF IF YOU JUST WIMPISHLY DO NOTHING AND TURN A BLIND EYE TO ALL THE CRIMINALITY HAPPENING IN FRONT OF YOUR FACE?

YOU OWE THE PEOPLE AN EXPLANATION FOR YOUR NONACTION, YOUR INACTION AND YOUR LACK OF ABILITY TO UNDERSTAND WHEN THE LAW IS BROKEN AND WHEN THE CONSTITUTION IS NOT ADHERED TO. IT IS YOUR JOB TO RECOGNIZE VIOLATIONS TO THE LAW AND CONSTITUTION. IT IS YOUR JOB TO TAKE CORRECTIVE ACTION WHEN YOU SEE THOSE VIOLATIONS. BUT NO, ALL WE GET FROM CONGRESS IS SILENCE AND INACTION AND LOOKING THE OTHER WAY! I DON'T CALL THAT LEADERSHIP, I CALL THAT BEING A GOOD LITTLE BOY FOLLOWER WHO HAS SOMETHING TO GAIN BY HIS/HER SILENCE. JUST AMAZING!

THOSE OF YOU IN THE SENATE WHO HAVE BEEN THERE FOR YOUR WHOLE LIVES SHOULD BE EMBARRASSED THAT IT TAKES A NEW SENATOR TO RECOGNIZE A VIOLATION, WHEN YOU CLAIM TO BE SO EXPERIENCED AND YET HE KNOWS HIS JOB, BETTER THAN YOU DO. IT IS YOUR JOB TO BE A CHECK ON THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH, AND YOU ARE NOT DOING YOUR JOB, BUT JUST LETTING YOUR PRESIDENT DO WHATEVER THE HELL HE PLEASES.

GET THE HELL OUT OF OUR SENATE, IF YOU ARE THAT WEAK AND WIMPISH, AND NOT WILLING TO DO SOMETHING TO STOP THE AGGREGIOUS CRIMINALITY HAPPENING IN DC. YOUR SERVICES ARE NO LONGER WANTED BECAUSE YOU ARE FAILURES!
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Al-Qaeda 100% Pentagon Run
http://www.infowars.com/al-qaeda-100-pentagon-run/



DON'T ONLY WATCH THIS VIDEO. DO THE NECESSARY RESEARCH WITH THE LINKS PROVIDED. DON'T ACCEPT HIS WORD FOR IT, DIG AND FIND THE TRUTH FOR YOURSELF WITH THE HELP GIVEN IN THE ARTICLE. STOP BEING LAZY. THIS IS ABOUT OUR COUNTRY!

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People should read this. Looks like THE so called Executive Branch, the Pentagon and Congress have a lot of explaining to do.

It is admitted they are arming and helping the rebels on the ground in Libya (even though Obama lies saying they are not on the ground and that the US isn't in charge. More lies, because we know his CIA boys are on the ground, no doubt causing trouble and probably doing so from day one. It's what they do).

The so called Coalition is to make the American people think the USA isn't in charge. Well, like every other false war, the US has been in major control (along with the idiots in the UK and France namely who love wars and destruction), so that dog won't hunt. Give me a break!

THIS ONE STINKS TO HIGH HEAVEN, JUST LIKE ALL THE OTHER THINGS THE GLOBALISTS ARE DOING RIGHT NOW! OH YEAH, THEN ON TV TODAY THEY REPORT GATES TESTIFYING TO THE SENATE AND HE EVEN SAYS 'REGIME CHANGE' WHEN ASKED HOW LONG IT WILL TAKE. CAN YOU BELIEVE THE SENATE DIDN'T GET UP IN ARMS OVER HIM USING THAT TERM RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEM AS THEY ARE SUPPOSEDLY BEING TOUGH ON GATES. SO, IT'S OBVIOUS THEY ARE TOTALLY STUNNED OR DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEM WITH THE US GOING INTO A SOVEREIGN COUNTRY TO DESTABILIZE AND THEN REGIME CHANGE?

MY GOD, THESE SENATORS NEED FIRING, IF THEY SUPPORT SUCH, AND BY THE LOOKS OF THINGS THEY'VE NEEDED FIRING A LONG TIME BECAUSE REGIME CHANGE HAS BEEN A STAPLE OF OUR GOVERNMENT FOREIGN POLICY (AS DRIVEN BY THE INSANE GLOBALISTS WHO HAVE CONNED, BOUGHT OFF AND MADE STUPID THE MAJORITY OF CONGRESS ON THESE ISSUES).

CONGRESS, WHERE ARE YOUR BALLS, OR HAVE YOU LOST THOSE ALSO? YOU GUYS ARE SO DISTRACTED OVER THE BUDGET AND CLOSING DOWN THE GOVERNMENT (INTENTIONAL DISTRACTION SO YOU CAN'T DEAL WITH REAL ISSUES) AND YET YOUR PRESIDENT IS COMMITTING TREASON, YET AGAIN, AND PLAYING DICTATOR IN GOING TO WAR WITHOUT YOUR APPROVAL, YET YOU DON'T GIVE A DAMN? JUST ASTOUNDING!

IF I WAS YOUR BOSS, YOU WOULD ALL BE FIRED YESTERDAY, WITH VERY FEW EXCEPTIONS. THIS NATION NEEDS MEN, NOT MICE, STATESMEN, NOT BABIES WHO COLLECT THEIR PAY AND FUTURE PENSIONS BUT HAVE DONE NOTHING TO DESERVE EITHER (i.e. DUE TO THE WAY THIS COUNTRY HAS BEEN OVERRUN ON YOUR WATCH, AND TAKEN TO ENDLESS WARS UNDER A PRETENSE OF BOOGEYMEN WHICH RESULTED AFTER THE 911 LIES, AND THAT WE NOW KNOW ARE CONTRIVED. MANY OF YOU IN CONGRESS JUST DO AS YOU'RE TOLD AND NEVER CHECK THINGS OUT FOR YOURSELF, AND NOW YOU'VE BEEN CONNED YET AGAIN. OTHERS OF YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IS HAPPENING AND WE THINK HAVE BEEN PAID OFF FOR YOUR SILENCE. DO YOU THINK THAT IS LEADERSHIP? NOT ON YOUR LIFE. IT IS THE POOREST EXCUSE FOR A LEADER THERE EVER WAS.

THEN WE WON'T TALK ABOUT THE OTHER IGNORANT CONGRESSMEN WHO JUST HAVEN'T A CLUE HOW THEY ARE BEING PLAYED. YOU CAN CLAIM IGNORANCE, BUT THAT WON'T WORK EITHER BECAUSE YOU ARE JUST AS RESPONSIBLE!


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Gates and Mullin Testify Before Senate Armed Services Committee - March 31, 2011:
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/298772-1






DID YOU HEAR EVEN ONE SENATOR QUESTION WHY WE INVADED LIBYA? AND WHERE THEY GET THE AUTHORITY TO DO SO?

I HEARD ONLY ONE GUY UPSET BY OBAMA NOT COMING TO THE CONGRESS TO GET A DECLARATION OF WAR?

DID YOU HEAR THE ONE GUY ASK ABOUT THE COSTS AND HOW IT WOULD BE PAID FOR, AND GATES WAS PISSED BY BEING ASKED THAT QUESTION? Oh yeah, you don't ask the master any tough questions, you are supposed to revere him.

WATCHING JUST A FEW OF THESE TYPES OF HEARINGS ON CSPAN TELLS YOU WHO YOU SHOULD KICK OUT OF CONGRESS. THESE GUYS HAVE NO QUALMS WITH SENDING YOUR SONS AND DAUGHTERS TO WAR, AND SPENDING ANY AMOUNT OF MONEY TO DO IT.



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Gates says no one can predict how long Libya mission will take
http://www.infowars.com/gates-says-no-one-...sion-will-take/



See, endless wars and conflicts. And many of our Congressmen keep rooting for any war Obama wants to engage in. How is that for "leadership"? Our Congress prefers being docile, good little boys, rather than real leaders who should be showing a backbone questioning what right we have leading another charge, into another war and trying to displace another sovereign leader?

Oh yeah, they are trying to play down the lead role of the USA, but you can be sure that behind the scenes they are orchestrating this one too, just like all the rest.

Until we have voted out of office all of the little docile, leaderless warmonger types, they will continue being the spineless men and women they are and going along with these endless wars. You see they think this makes them look tough, when really the opposite is true.

Remember, Obama was given the Nobel peace prize and yet now into a third, fourth, etc war? What a joke! The legitimacy of that prize should now be questioned. rolleyes.gif
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Why is the Federal Reserve Propping up the Bank of Libya?
http://www.thenation.com/blog/159621/why-f...ping-bank-libya


Yet another sign of how the bankers are involved in every war. History says they fund both sides. So, here we go again!

So, do these Congressmen who go along so easily with these wars get a payoff also? Many are bought, we know that! So the answer is most likely, YES!

Just another reason the Federal Reserve needs to go!
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Listen to what this guy said on The Daily Show! It's Nation Building and about the NWO!
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?to...seen#msg1225364

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Obama's War That Isn't a War
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8Cvs1wkOrY





See how our so called leaders use "semantics" to change the meaning of words, so they can do as they please? How stupid do they think we are? angry.gif
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Obama's "War" On Libya
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ao8VAJknsTg





OBAMA - YOU HAVE ONCE AGAIN BROKEN THE LAWS OF THIS NATION - YET BARELY A PEEP FROM THE IMPOTENT CONGRESS! OBAMA, THE UN IS NOT YOUR BOSS. YOUR AUTHORITY MUST COME FROM THE US CONSTITUTION AND THE US CONGRESS! IF YOU DON'T KNOW THAT VERY BASIC TENANT OF YOUR DUTIES, THEN YOU SHOULD LEAVE OFFICE BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT QUALIFIED TO BE PRESIDENT! doh1.gif

THE WAR POWERS ACT OF 1973:
http://z4.invisionfree.com/The_Great_Decep...topic=9097&st=0
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Was there a War Resolution in Congress to go to Libya? Well yes and no!

Fact Check: Senate did favor Libya no-fly: (NOTE: This was NOT an authorization)
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?...L&type=politics

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By DONNA CASSATA, Associated Press

Associated Press April 2, 2011

Some lawmakers are grousing loudly that President Barack Obama sent the nation's military to Libya without Congress' blessing.

They're ignoring a key fact: The Senate a month ago voted to support imposing a no-fly zone to protect civilians from attacks by Col. Moammar Gadhafi's forces.

With no objections, the Senate on March 1 backed a resolution strongly condemning "the gross and systematic violations of human rights in Libya" and urging the U.N. Security Council to take action, "including the possible imposition of a no-fly zone over Libyan territory."

There was no recorded vote. It was simply approved by unanimous consent.

No one in Washington is interpreting that resolution as a full-blown authorization for military action, especially as the no-fly zone expanded to airstrikes on Gadhafi's tanks and munitions sites. But the measure undercuts the congressional criticism that Obama was totally off on his own. Defense Secretary Robert Gates pointedly reminded lawmakers of that during his marathon testimony on Thursday.

"There have been a lot of concerns expressed about the consultation with the Congress, but in its own way, the Congress consulted with the president, and particularly this body that unanimously in a resolution called for the imposition of a no-fly zone," Gates told the Senate Armed Services Committee.

Not so, said Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine.

She argued that the resolution was limited, praising the courage of the Libyan people, calling on Gadhafi to stop the attacks and welcoming a vote in the U.N. Security Council. Reciting the phrase on the no-fly zone, she said it was "the only part that's even tangentially on this issue" and was "pretty weak language in terms of authorizing the United States."

Gates said he wasn't claiming that the non-binding measure authorized military action, "but it certainly was a manifestation of the wish and the view of the United States Senate on this issue."

He said the administration would welcome another resolution on Libya, a measure lawmakers have been discussing.

For decades, Congress and the commander in chief have fought over the authority to go to war.

The Constitution says Congress has the exclusive power to declare war, but presidents have waged wars without that declaration. As Gates pointed out during his testimony, the last declared war was World War II, after the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor on Dec. 7, 1941.

Korea, Vietnam, the first Persian Gulf War, Iraq and Afghanistan all have been fought without declarations of war. In some instances, Congress has provided authorization for military action after weeks or months of debate.

Two presidents, Lyndon B. Johnson and Richard M. Nixon, oversaw the war in Vietnam based on the authority of the Aug. 7, 1964, Gulf of Tonkin resolution, a measure that passed amid reports — later disputed — that North Vietnam had attacked U.S. Navy destroyers in the Gulf.

After that war ended, Congress passed the War Powers Resolution over a veto by Nixon. The resolution says the president can dispatch U.S. forces if there's a congressional declaration of war, an authorization by Congress or an attack on the United States or its forces. It also says the president can act prior to authorization from Congress for 60 to 90 days.

Presidents — Republicans and Democrats — have challenged the constitutionality of the War Powers Resolution. Efforts in Congress to change it have proved futile.

One after the other, lawmakers complained to Gates this week about the administration's failure to get authorization from Congress for the military action in Libya. Administration officials have said Gadhafi's forces were bearing down on Benghazi and they had to act within hours, not days, to prevent a bloodbath. They pointed out that Obama consulted with congressional leaders on March 18, the day before the military operation began.

On Thursday, Rep. Jim Cooper, D-Tenn., reminded his colleagues that they've had opportunities to update the War Powers Resolution but haven't done it.

"Sometimes we do not take our responsibilities equally seriously with the chief executive in the land," Cooper said. "And that worries me, because Congress should be more than a Congress of backseat drivers, more than a Congress of armchair generals."


Note: Listen to the March 31, 2011 Senate hearing posted earlier. McCain introduced S Res 102 on March 15, 2011. It was referred to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. However, Senator Susan Collins described it as very weak, with no authority. (time 1:32:00). Gates even admits it was "a manifestation of the views of the Senate, but no authority."

So yeah, one Senator, McCcain, wrote a weak resolution, but there wasn't a roll call vote and it wasn't a REAL AUTHORITY to go to war. This is hardly what I would expect a war resolution to be. This shows the lack of leadership in the Senate on this issue.

McCain claims to be Mr. War and doesn't even know how to write a resolution to be used to truly authorize a war? Nor any of his buddies who love war - Lieberman, Levin, Graham, etc? This is truly amazing!
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Look at this testimony in the Senate April 17, 2002 - Michael Glennon where they discuss War Powers of the Congress. It seems this has been a long battle, and still not resolved: (Very informational on how Resolutions of War are supposed to work)
http://judiciary.senate.gov/hearings/testi...=225&wit_id=434


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"Contrary to what seems to be growing sentiment in Congress, authorization and consultation are not interchangeable."



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Now referring to Libya, Levin in the Senate hearing said a small group "Consulted" with Obama. Does he think that is adequate for a war resolution? WRONG!


Still not good enough, congress! You royally messed this up like so many things. You tell me you guys have gone to war after war after war and don't know how to do it right yet? or is it really that you don't even care if you do it right?


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UN Resolution 1973: (March 17, 2011)
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/124599/201...thorization.htm


S. Res. 102 - McCain Sponsored (March 15, 2011). It DID NOT Authorize going into Libya, and was very weak (per Senator Susan Collins during the Senate testimony):
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112sres...12sres102is.pdf
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Posted: Apr 4 2011, 02:39 PM


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War Powers - Unconstitutional Acts - Calling offenders out!
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Posted: Apr 5 2011, 11:32 AM


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H. Con. Res. 31 (Sponsored by Ron Paul):
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112hcon...hconres31ih.pdf


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Expressing the sense of Congress that the President is required to obtain in advance specific statutory authorization for the use of United States Armed Forces in response to civil unrest in Libya.
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Posted: Apr 5 2011, 05:00 PM


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"In light of recent world events, perhaps the most staggering revelation is that quite a bit of money went to the Arab Banking Corp., in which the Libyan Central Bank owned about a third of its stock.  This occurred while Libya, a declared state sponsor of terrorism, was under strict economic sanctions!  How erratic the US must appear when we shower a dictator alternately with dollars and bombs! Also, we must consider the possibility that those loans are inadvertently financing weapons Gaddaffi is using against his own people and western militaries.   This would not be the first time the covert activities of the Fed have undermined not only our economy and the value of the dollar, but our foreign policy as well."
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Posted: Apr 7 2011, 02:27 PM


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04/05/11: Sen. Rand Paul Speaks on Sense of the Senate Resolution
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People who call themselves leaders and yet speak out of BOTH sides of their mouth, are not leaders at all. This applies to Obama! rolleyes.gif
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