Title: Spoilers!! The Big Bang!!
The Master - June 26, 2010 06:36 PM (GMT)
Alright, so the season finale JUST finished a few minutes ago! Time for the discussion thread!!
Wasn't it brilliant?! I mean, I guess I was overthinking it and went with in the wrong direction. But I don't even care. It was just great!!! I'm not really coherent yet, so there will probably be more later. And I'm watching Confidential, so yeah. :P
Some things I liked. The hat!! haha. 'Fez is cool.' And then 'what in the name of sanity have you got on your head?' Then Amy tosses it and River shoots it. And him waking up and announcing first thing that he has to buy a fez. *shakes head* It's great!! And all the time travel sequences were cute. And Amy and Rory. And Rory coming back. And being killed of curiosity of how they're getting out of this one. And Amy remembering. And 'something old, something new, something borrorowed, something blue.' That was great! And the TARDIS. And the Doctor dancing horribly. And them joining him again at the end!! YES!!! YES!!
And River. Gah. She's so intriguing, she drives me nuts, I need to know who she is!! We better find out at Christmas ;)
Thank you, Steven Moffat! I didn't doubt you. <3 But you're brilliant, you are!
Amy Pond - June 26, 2010 06:48 PM (GMT)
that was fan- freaking- tastic!!!!!!! I am at a loss for words!
The Doctor - June 26, 2010 07:14 PM (GMT)
Very interesting how the Doctor not only restored Amy but he restored her family - she now has the mother she needed to make her happy with marriage and the father she tried to replace with the Doctor. It's really quite brilliant and I have to say
being a confirmed Dalek-lover
that the Stone Dalek was just... *shakes head* loss for words on that one fans, loss for words.
The Meta - June 26, 2010 11:20 PM (GMT)
Having seen it piece meal, I'm going to have to see it in full before I give a review.
The Doctor - June 27, 2010 04:29 AM (GMT)
Talking of piece
Isn't it awesome - Moffat in all his wonder - that the silence hasn't been solved? So the cracks AND the silence weren't related :D that means, not only is this the FIRST nuwho plot that spans two series... but somehow Moffat has all these episodes up to now tied into the NEXT season :lol:
Lilith Anselm - June 27, 2010 04:16 PM (GMT)
(I dunno if I'm allowed to post here yet cause of acceptance and all but here I go...)
Those who episodes gave me headaches. I will raise hands and say I haven't watched the full series ( I work most nights that it is on, darnit) but due to the horrible amounts of bets I made with a friend, I had to watch the finale (strangely enough...we broke even and didn't owe each other anything...) and...wow. The beginning of The Big Bang was just: ..wait...how...where? bleh? and that's what I love about Doctor Who, the constant confusion and masterpiece of it all.
The wedding part made me laugh so much. Mainly becase Amy is all: You are late for my wedding! Matt Smith's acting has redeemed him in my eyes a little, since I wasn't his No. 1 fan when he was first introduced (but he comes from my home town. Whoo, come on Northampton!) but the acting in these two episodes has definately made me like him on a different scale of how I liked Tennant and Eccleston.
This summer, inbetween when the next series comes out. I need to watch all of the "new" series again, from season 1 - ...uh...now? Luckily, we're doing a Doctor Who marathon next week so that should start it...maybe.
The Master - June 28, 2010 02:55 AM (GMT)
I'm super-excited about the cross-series plot!! :D
And Fran, I'm glad it helped your view of Matt Smith's Doctor. I adore him, isn't he just great?? And I know what you mean. I love the magic that is Doctor Who, even if it sometimes doesn't make sense all the time. ^_^
Oh. And I just died of happiness. Wedding Pictures!!!!!
Joshua Peterson - June 30, 2010 12:49 AM (GMT)
Wow, finally watched the finale and it was awesome! It was so unexpected and brilliant and left me wanting more! Another reason to be excited for Christmas : )
One question though, did the entire series not happen? I mean, I know it had to happen for the end to happen, but do Amy and Rory now remember the whole "series," so to speak, or just the Doctor himself? I hope its the former, but I really have no idea.
The Master - June 30, 2010 01:47 AM (GMT)
Wasn't it?! I'm glad you liked it!
I was wondering the same thing for a bit, but the way that Amy and Rory are talking, they have to remember what happened. Amy's memories were triggered by River's diary so she'd obviously have to remember her and whatnot. And then didn't Rory say something about having been plastic or something? So he probably remembered that too. And you know, she wouldn't remember anything of him at all since he didn't show up to help her with Prisoner Zero years later - the only contact she really had with him in the 'rewritten' world was him that night at her house when she was a little girl. And Rory wouldn't have met him at all, so he how does he remember him? So yes, I'm going to say that they remember everything about him. ;)
Though, technically, none of that happened. They were time travellers though, and as the Doctor says, once you time travel, you're 'special.' Technically no one else should remember any of that stuff, such as... say, Jeff perhaps (the guy with the laptop), since the Atraxi deal wouldn't have occurred.
Yeah. I'm done with my rant. *goes off*
The Doctor - June 30, 2010 03:59 AM (GMT)
It still happened because history would fall apart if it didn't - the Doctor's timeline fell apart but because Amy 'remembered him' all those things happened
As proven... by the writing returning in Rivers book ;) those events DID happen because Amy and Rory WERE brought back by the Doctor for their wedding - everything happened, just like the Cybermen invading christmas, it's just no one KNEW it happened until they remembered
Remember, the Doctor said the MEMORY of the event was being stolen - not he event itself. If the event itself was stolen Time would fall apart :o
Nikita Alexandra - July 18, 2010 02:25 PM (GMT)
I love how Amy was like, "Hey, where are you going? We haven't snogged in the bushes yet!"
She has to be one of my three favourite companions.
The Big Bang was the most PERFECT season finale...I LOVED it, the whole season was fantastic and I adore Matt Smith, he's BRILLIANT!
Susan Foreman - July 18, 2010 06:31 PM (GMT)
I love the fact that she is more like Donna than Rose. I ADORED Donna (YOU WANT TO MATE?, well you aint mating wiht me spaceman- classic quote) and I love Amy for her little flirty comments but she is bad ass in her own way. She doesnt wait for the doc all the time and she has enough brains to work things out for herself.
I also love the fact that despite the fact she clearly thinks the doctor is foxy she isnt trying to promise forever like Rose. Their relationship is more like those best male/female friends who flirt alot but are not really into each other but they are sort of possessive when someone else goes out with thier 'person' - -I have a male buddy and we are like that- very dysfunctional!
Nikita Alexandra - July 18, 2010 07:28 PM (GMT)
|QUOTE (Susan Foreman @ Jul 18 2010, 12:31 PM)|
| Their relationship is more like those best male/female friends who flirt alot but are not really into each other but they are sort of possessive when someone else goes out with thier 'person' - -I have a male buddy and we are like that- very dysfunctional! |
Ah...but it's such a beautiful kinda dysfunction. I have a guy friend like that too...I always have a hard time telling him I stepped out on a date! The doctor has a hard time resisting her as well ("So you kissed her back?" "No I kissed her mouth!") which is so funny to watch!
I personally wasn't very fond of Rose Tyler till the bad wolf thing. Found her far too needy until she really came into her own and became her own woman once the doctor left her. I remember my exact words being "How magnificent!" when I saw the new Rose Tyler who was basically in charge and running things!
Love, love, love Amy and Donna. Now THOSE are good companions!
Susan Foreman - July 18, 2010 10:08 PM (GMT)
Well like the Doctor (I dont think) wants Amy in the romantic sexy-time-have-my-babies - sense but he doesnt really seem to want to share her with Rory (from the Amy's choice episode) His 'dreams' are a 'one or the other' scenario - amy has to choose him or Rory, not both.
I think Amy kind of understnads what the relationship is about -which is why she can be married to Rory and still ask the doc for a snog infront of him - cus she knows it isnt sexual -not properly. (even if I do sort of want it to be!)
I generally prefer the more independant companions which is why I HATE Martha, because she was sooooo clingy, and whiney and generally ANNOYING! I totally agree on the Rose front, she was abit annoying, got her own when she got sent across the void - she was a BAMF in turn left!
Nikita Alexandra - July 19, 2010 06:40 AM (GMT)
What I meant was, that when she makes up her mind about something, he has a hard time fighting her off. Like when she wanted to make babies with him the night before her wedding? He had to physically keep her off of him, and he wasn't doing a very good job of resisting. Brought Rory along to Vampires in Venice as a buffer between Amy and him! :P
After that things became a lot clearer, I mean, the season finale was brilliant because they had altogether too much fun with everything! (Rory really won my heart in the Pandorica Opens and the Big Bang). The doctor's words at their wedding were so unbelievably sweet "Rory Williams...the boy who waited. Good on you, mate."
But back to the companions, I adore Amy for being someone who is both fiesty enough for the doctor and can stand on her own two feet...I disliked both Martha, and Rose for the clinginess as well, it was far too...needy. And I feel like Amy is also the most street smart companion he has had. I liked Lady Christina De Souza for the same reason, but they never gave her enough screen time! :D
The Doctor - July 20, 2010 08:57 AM (GMT)
I loved series 1 Rose because she could pull lemons out of her hat and was independent - I loved Martha when they focused on her but hated it when they they jarringly switched to HER focusing on the Doctor. Above all else I hated series 2 bimbo Marry-Sue Rose who EVERYONE just had to listen to because she had an overbite and a piece of psychic paper
Donna rocked and made series four awesome - and when we saw Martha in series four WITHOUT the Doctor Crush she rocked even harder - especially the ending with Mickey - she deserved better from RTD and the fanbase in general...
Eve Lloyd - July 20, 2010 11:18 PM (GMT)
|QUOTE (The Doctor @ Jul 20 2010, 01:57 AM)|
| I hated series 2 bimbo Marry-Sue Rose who EVERYONE just had to listen to because she had an overbite and a piece of psychic paper|
*chuckles ridiculously hard*
Lilith Anselm - July 21, 2010 12:59 AM (GMT)
Amy - Like. *nodnodnod*
Rory - Win *nodnod*
Matt Smith!Doctor: *points below*
I'm back to really disliking Matt Smith again (this is due to watching the season for the first tiems evas) His best acting was The Big Bang. *prods Matt with a ten foot barge pole* I think, what's tainted his memory for me, is his regeneration from the Tenth doctor. I hated that because he acted like a total spazz, and....bleeeh. *prods again*
Hopefully I'll relike him the further into the season I get? I'm a few eps in. So. Yes?